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What to expect from a molly comedown?
    #26683661 - 05/20/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My friend and I got some molly and shrooms for tonight. He is already tripping and i'm going to take the molly later tonight.

What should I expect for the morning after? I heard it is terrible.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Kelazam]
    #26683684 - 05/20/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Its not that bad

I usually just get tired and my stomach feels a bit off. Having a normal meal helps

The real kicker comes two days later


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Kelazam] * 1
    #26683716 - 05/20/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's only bad if you don't follow recommended dosage guidelines. Best practice is to stay within light to moderate dosages and don't redose. Stay hydrated and prepare to stroke the fuzzy wall


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26683732 - 05/20/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If it's good molly it's smooth sailing. Especially if you eat it instead of snorting it.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26683767 - 05/20/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Newton’s 3rd law.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26684671 - 05/21/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This list may seem OTT, but IME it's helpful for the day(s) after dosing. You'll likely thank yourself later if you stick to it :thumbup:

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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26684815 - 05/21/20 04:31 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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light to moderate dosages and don't redose. Stay hydrated




This is actually the best advice

900 mg comedown is terrible


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Kelazam]
    #26685142 - 05/21/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How did it go?  Hopefully you realized that the comedown thing was just something that was overblown by prohibitionists to deter people from using MDMA.  But one thing I will say is that MDMA really isn't nearly as good when you aren't rolling with someone else.  The worst roll I ever had was by myself.  Taking it with another person makes the experience at least twice as good, which creates an afterglow that takes the edge off any morning-after come down.









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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Learyfan]
    #26685163 - 05/21/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Molly & the coimedown is kinda like an episode of the Happy Tree Friends.

What starts in ecstasy ends in tragedy.




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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante]
    #26685521 - 05/21/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I may be in the minority here but I absolutely hated the molly comedown

So much so that I quit fucking around with it altogether

And I followed the suggested rules of it all to the letter as far as I know. But it really reminded me of a coke comedown, which to me is/was just nightmarish. Couldn't sleep no matter what. In a highly advanced super state of dominating depression.

There were times where I just chalked it up to it being "bad" molly but every experience of mine was the same. So yeah it's not for me. I just can't do anything with a comedown, because I'm highly sensitive to them. There were people who did the same molly as I did who said they had little to no issues with the comedown. So I chalk it up as it having to do with me more than the molly.

Anyway years ago I decided I'm done experimenting with it and these days the only things I fuck with or psychedelics, because for me there are no comedowns on the psychedelics I enjoy (LSD, mushrooms).


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26685541 - 05/21/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's certainly the worst comedown I've ever known, aside of alcohol.

How was it OP?


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla]
    #26685555 - 05/21/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Weird, LSD and mush are harde to sleep on, but I take melatonin or etiz if I have it now, so sleep is easier, much easier. I can handle ANY drug comedown/hangover MUCH better than an alcohol one any time.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26685595 - 05/21/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I also stopped taking MDMA because I felt like absolute shit for days after using

The comedown sucked because its like "fuck Im going to feel like this now for 5 days :facepalm:"

Mind you. I never used in moderation. A few benders fucked me up permanently for that substance I think


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26685598 - 05/21/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's certainly the worst comedown I've ever known, aside of alcohol.






Alcohol has a comedown? Other than holding out a crucifix and whipping it with holy water shouting BEGONE! BEGONE! ?

Alcohol has a hangover, but a comedown? Your whole body is like "Thank God its over", its not like my mind clings onto the experience.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante]
    #26685603 - 05/21/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Alcohol can certainly have a comedown so to speak, if one stops drinking and continues to stay awake. Like drink a 12 pack and then continue to stay awake for five hours after and it will fuckin suck

But most just crash out when they're done drinking. So no comedown. Unless you count the hangover when you wake up, which of course, is a pretty terrible feeling.

I still think the cocaine comedown, of all the comedowns I've been through, is the worst of the worst.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla]
    #26685607 - 05/21/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's only bad when you run out and want more. After sleep it's easier than an alcohol comedown for me, but then again, I tend to drink on coke, lol.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla]
    #26685608 - 05/21/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I still think the cocaine comedown, of all the comedowns I've been through, is the worst of the worst.





Given how reenforcing its use is, thats easy to imagine.

How does it compare to the MDMA comedown?


Its kinbda heartbreaking, havinfelt so superbly good and then end up in a state of raw unmitigated yearning for more. I can totally see why for some it spoils the experience.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26685614 - 05/21/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's only bad when you run out and want more.




Which is every time for me. I run out and want more. And it's fucking awful. It turned me into a strung out crackhead drug fiend.

So I banished it from my drug intake long long ago.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante]
    #26685622 - 05/21/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Given how reenforcing its use is, thats easy to imagine.

How does it compare to the MDMA comedown?







On both I had zero hope of sleeping, even hours after use. Both sent me into an eerily similar spiraled and hellish state of depression. I loathed both comedowns and both comedown experiences were more than enough for me to not delve back into those ever again. That's how bad they were for me personally.

And those weren't singular experiences for me -- I used cocaine repeatedly for about two years of my life. One of my closest friends at the time (RIP) was a coke dealer. And while I wasn't near the molly veteran that I was with coke, I probably had a half dozen experiences or so. All with the same feeling at the end. Which I hated (and I don't use the word hate lightly).

Again I know for others, they don't share this experience. I know a lot of people hold molly particularly near and dear to their hearts and I'm not shitting on it. It's just my particular experience. And I have no interest in going back.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26685625 - 05/21/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Alcohol has a comedown?



I tend to consider any non-positive after effects of a substance as 'a comedown'.

I.e - this is the price you pay for having had this experience.

Semantics at play, I'm sure.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26685628 - 05/21/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I used molly from 2003-2010.

I don't wanna get back into it because it got compulsive and because of those twists where euphoria flips to dysphoria.

You go into it like the Goonies then crawl out of it like Schindlers List.

It just doesn't sit right.

A quarter gram of cubies in the right social settings can have us laughing and punning like a standup comedians convention, and the mushrooms "comedown" is a merry return to reality.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26685631 - 05/21/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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A quarter gram of cubies in the right social settings can have us laughing and punning like a standup comedians convention, and the mushrooms "comedown" is a merry return to reality.



Hell to the motherfuckin' yeah.

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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla]
    #26685633 - 05/21/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I can actually stop and save some for a week or 2 later, I can't believe it because in my 20's and 30's I/we would do it all until it was gone no matter how much we bought, but that was usually only a gram, 1/16th, or an 8 ball. BUT, 2 people and a potent 8 ball, shiiiiiiit, that's some kind of fucked up coupled with alcohol. I still have about a gram from a couple of weeks ago, I think.:shrug: I got into coke/crack and IV for about 5-7 years (speed too). If an 8 is bought we split over a few nights and weekends.

I'm surprised I'm alive and doing what I'm doing actually. I can moderate my drug use very well now, except in the last couple of years I have done about 400mg mdma and that is way too much I found out, lol. I think my sweet spot is about 250 in 2 even doses, or 200-225. I still weigh every single dose even though I'm rolling balls, and I have heard of people "finger dipping" or just eating little chunks!


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante]
    #26685637 - 05/21/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You have had access to high quality mdma though, I haven't until about 5 years ago, other than the 80's and 90's when I never had to worry about the quality,lol. I was regulated in it's use to not finding it, or not being able to afford it, Luckily.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26685648 - 05/21/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah Rex I've seen you mention in the past how you're a disciplined user. And that is great, man. Seriously. If you can do it that way then I think you're better than most when it comes to that.

Most I did coke with were (like myself) the type to do it until it's gone. And then want more. I did meet the rare exception who could begrudgingly call it a night, or just do a few lines here and there and be able to enjoy the rest of the night without it -- but the vast majority it turned into ghoulish fiends, lol.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla]
    #26685682 - 05/21/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

on a ecstasy come down i would really like listening to blue music like bluetech and meditate :aweyeah:


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26685710 - 05/21/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing worse than that second pick up while fucking blasted. I have to admit something. One time we paid for crack with rolled pennies, and the guy took it!:sad: The guy Who I 1st did it with was nicknamed spoon too.:sad: When I quit he just kept on. He was part of the group of friends I had from 19 to present day. I only talk/text to 2 of those people now. So, I know what it's like to be a fiend, believe me, I'm no angel. OH, song time!
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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26685748 - 05/21/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

First time I used MDMA was in december, 70ish mg. Awesome experience, not rolling super hard but still heavenly. No comedown at all, had an afterglow if anything.

A month later I got hammered and decided to do a few bumps of molly throughout the night. I almost checked myself into a psych ward the next day. I literally couldn't form a thought or even walk in a straight line. My brain was completely zapped. I laid in bed in the fetal position having a panic attack and bordering on psychosis the entire day. Called out sick at work for the next week and still barely felt okay when I got back. Fuck that was hell.

Did it again a few weeks back (same batch as last time), about 90mg this time with no redose. Rolled fairly hard, tons of euphoria. The next couple days I was a little tired and slightly anxious/depressed but I pushed through it easily enough.

From my limited experience I think it really comes down to a combo of when you last did it, how much you do, and whether or not you redose (like someone earlier said). Serotonin is arguably the most important neurotransmitter for how we feel and experience reality, you really should be as gentle as possible on it.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: feevers]
    #26685756 - 05/21/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My comedown on alcohol feels like a vibration in my body along with intense anxiety. It's not the hangover yet.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: feevers]
    #26685757 - 05/21/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

From my limited experience I think it really comes down to a combo of when you last did it, how much you do, and whether or not you redose (like someone earlier said). Serotonin is arguably the most important neurotransmitter for how we feel and experience reality, you really should be as gentle as possible on it.

Agreed.

The very 1st time ever was in December? WOW! :grin: You'll remember that forever, yay!

I was 19 and the year was 1984. I still get the same euphoria from a medium (125mg) dose as the 1st time.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26685868 - 05/21/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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From my limited experience I think it really comes down to a combo of when you last did it, how much you do, and whether or not you redose (like someone earlier said). Serotonin is arguably the most important neurotransmitter for how we feel and experience reality, you really should be as gentle as possible on it.

Agreed.

The very 1st time ever was in December? WOW! :grin: You'll remember that forever, yay!

I was 19 and the year was 1984. I still get the same euphoria from a medium (125mg) dose as the 1st time.




Yea I'd been looking for it for like a decade with zero luck, then santa came through big time last december :sun:

125 sounds like the perfect dose. The 90mg I did was incredible but felt like I just needed a little bit more of nudge to get everything I wanted from it. I'm thinking in the 110-130 range for next time.

Have you ever rolled around a month apart? I have the chance next weekend, then won't again until probably new years. I'm kind of worried 4 weeks isn't long enough in between and I'll get hit with the afterblues.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: feevers]
    #26685934 - 05/21/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

In 2003-2007 we rolled once a month.

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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Kelazam]
    #26685937 - 05/21/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The hangover is really non-existant if you take a responsible dose and make sure to stay hydrated during the experience.
I usually have a nice afterglow the day after dropping MDMA.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante]
    #26685957 - 05/21/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26685961 - 05/21/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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    #26686005 - 05/21/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I say minimum one month. You'll be ok, but I'm not a doctor. At the lowish doses you're doing it (if the weight is known) and if its tested as clean you should be ok. I like a booster. You could split the hit in half and 1.5-2 hours in do the second part. It extends the rush/roll a bit, and you get a "second wave". NYE is my favorite night to do it, so good with that party.


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26686035 - 05/21/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It was unforgettable :heart:



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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Asante]
    #26686097 - 05/21/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I lost my job because I lied to them and told them I was still in Ohio and couldn't come in to work...

...my brain felt absolutely empty...

.....of course I had been redosing and dosing two days in a row in Ohio...that was fun...

...the comedown didn't fully hit me until 2 days after after the last dose...the next day is fine...the day after that can be shockingly bad if you redosed...took way too much or took it multiple times in a week....

I like microdosing if I ever touch sass now...which is like a twice in a decade thing...

...I don't chase the insane highs anymore...just get my slight buzz from my tea...lol. 


Being with the wrong people during the comedown (people who I thought were good friends but who, like most people, not the best for my psyche) made it much worse and kind of put my brain into a slight tailspin once combined with the excessive THC....eventually my brain fully spun out of control a few years later...now it's doing better but I've made countless mistakes...including alienating myself from one of those friends forever due to a silly situation of deceptions upon me which caused me to make a brash decision out some frustrations I had with said friend that had piled a little too high for me to handle at the time over those years of knowing him...I hope he is alright out there but I know he likes to get into trouble...enough to frustrate those closest to him too much sometimes...it certainly frustrated my family members over the many years we were friends that THEY even sacrificed to show him we loved him...but he had never treated us right...

Have a great day!  Hope you learn something from my mistakes!


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Nymphaea]
    #26687140 - 05/22/20 03:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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feevers said:
A month later I got hammered and decided to do a few bumps of molly throughout the night. I almost checked myself into a psych ward the next day. I literally couldn't form a thought or even walk in a straight line. My brain was completely zapped. I laid in bed in the fetal position having a panic attack and bordering on psychosis the entire day. Called out sick at work for the next week and still barely felt okay when I got back. Fuck that was hell.
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I lost my job because I lied to them and told them I was still in Ohio and couldn't come in to work...

...my brain felt absolutely empty...

.....of course I had been redosing and dosing two days in a row in Ohio...that was fun...

...the comedown didn't fully hit me until 2 days after after the last dose...the next day is fine...the day after that can be shockingly bad if you redosed...took way too much or took it multiple times in a week....





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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: feevers]
    #26687142 - 05/22/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

glad to hear you were able to source some, feevers :awesomenod:

My birthday's next week, and everything is about as shit as it ever was so I'm thinking about going hard... you know, #selfcare

IME comedown is basically nothing as long as you have legit supply and you're responsible with (re)dosing


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Re: What to expect from a molly comedown? [Re: Nymphaea] * 1
    #26687731 - 05/22/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Check this out:

It might be beneficial to ingest cannabis after a roll.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824821/

TH levels were also measured in animals pretreated with the CB1 receptor antagonist AM251 and the CB2 receptor antagonist AM630 receiving THC and MDMA and housed at 26±1°C (Fig. 7c). THC did not prevent MDMA-induced hyperthermia in mice treated with AM251. Conversely, AM630 did not modify the ability of THC to prevent MDMA-induced hyperthermia (Table 2).

Finally, TH levels were evaluated in CB1, CB2 and double CB1/CB2 knockout mice administered with THC and MDMA (Fig. 7b). Vehicle-treated CB1, CB2 and double CB1–CB2 knockout mice showed similar TH levels than wild-type mice. In contrast, THC prevented MDMA-induced hyperthermia in wild-type and CB2 knockout mice, but it was unable to prevent MDMA-induced DA terminal loss in mice deficient in the CB1 and CB1–CB2 receptor. In conclusion, THC protects against MDMA-induced DA axonal degeneration through the activation of CB1 receptor.


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