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Asclepius
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Exposure to Covid in the Workplace
#26682911 - 05/20/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you think it is right for your employer to force you to work, if you were exposed to a co-worker who already tested positive for Covid-19? Bear in mind that you and this co-worker were within close proximity to one another, shared some of the same items, and they were in fact positive for Covid-19 (but still awaiting test results) for the entire duration of the shift. As it so happens, this is what recently happened to me. I have since developed a sore throat and dry cough, so I decided to call into work today and got tested for Covid-19 just this morning -- I am now awaiting the test results. Meanwhile, many of my fellow co-workers were also exposed to this individual that tested positive, and the company is requiring them to come into work.
Does anyone else find this odd?
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: Asclepius] 3
#26682953 - 05/20/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah it's a messed up situation. This is why the Swedish model doesn't work for the USA. Workers need access to paid sick leave and medical care without worrying about the finances.
I got exposed at work right at the beginning of March and wasn't able to get tested for like 3 weeks. At first they said to quarantine but then it became clear that wasnt gonna be logistically possible so after 4 days they were like "anyone without symptoms come back to work" and we are like "testing???" but they still only had it for symptomatic people at that point.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: morrowasted]
#26683005 - 05/20/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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For sure! No one should have to choose between becoming infected themselves or whether they are going to be able to pay the bills. Sorry to hear you also had a terrible experience with your employer as it pertains to their lack of concern for the health of their employees. It definitely feels like a profit over people scenario that is inexcusable in my mind's eye. Hopefully everything is okay at your place of employment.
I am sure I will be fine, also. Thank you, brother!
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: Asclepius] 1
#26683032 - 05/20/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah it sucks and it's terrible. I'm not that shocked though. I work for an essential business, but thankfully I can do the work from home. We have had plants open throughout this entire thing, and while the company has been genuinely trying to take basic precautions and issue ppe, people are still getting sick left and right. It doesn't feel right, it feels like a sacrificial offering more than anything..but the thing is if no one does this job, medical facilities, nursing homes, grocery stores, hospitals and ERs won't have lights.
I don't think anyone should be forced to choose between paying their rent and getting sick or losing their life. It's a delicate dance. You don't want to force people to have to work but you do want to incentivize healthy people to work otherwise our supply chain is going to continue to degrade - you know the system is broken when someone on the front lines risking their lives will not only be safer but make more money than they would ordinarily by taking federal and state unemployment.
I find it sickening that employers like Amazon and Kroger are ending their extra pay incentives when the risk is not over, and in fact, just starting to ramp up in a lot of states that are opening prematurely.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#26683068 - 05/20/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I find it sickening that employers like Amazon and Kroger are ending their extra pay incentives when the risk is not over, and in fact, just starting to ramp up in a lot of states that are opening prematurely.
Tell me about it! My state government is still not willing to lift the stay-at-home order in its entirety, allowing only for curbside pick-up for some (though not all) non-essential businesses. Even so, my employer owns facilities in multiple states. Now that many other states are starting to re-open, our productivity is increasing. We were not supposed to be working next week due to low volume, but now my company has reversed its decision to close down. It would be nice if they would incentivize us -- I hear of lots of companies doing that. It sucks that companies who were providing incentives are now taking them away from employees who are literally risking their long-term health and lives, as well as the lives of family members they may come into contact with after each shift.
Hopefully all this shit blows over soon.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: Asclepius] 1
#26683120 - 05/20/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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oof, fuck that. That is exactly why I'm not working in office or on-site anywhere. I don't trust other people to not spread the virus to me. I hope you don't have it. Stay safe
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Did trump knock down the other stimulus package bill?
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26683293 - 05/20/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I work at walmart and during the lockdown they stopped giving employees demerit points for calling in sick. Still didnt get paid, but normally you get a point for not showing up/calling in sick, you get 5 points and youre fired
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26683301 - 05/20/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: Did trump knock down the other stimulus package bill?
Nah, it passed the house. The dems modified it so that it was just another one time round of 1200 dollar checks, instead of reoccurring, and now it's expected to pass. I don't know much more about the bill and what it includes, it could get rejected based on something else, but supposedly the white house is in favor of another round of stimulus checks so I expect they'll work out another payment sometime soon if it's not this bill exactly.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: Asclepius] 1
#26683303 - 05/20/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Isn't it an OSHA violation to knowingly expose workers to hazardous conditions?
If it isn't a civil offense, it is definitely an OSHA violation.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: pirate-blues]
#26683305 - 05/20/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmmm, ty. I’ll read up on it later.
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Yup, no problem 
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Ahab McBathsalts said: Isn't it an OSHA violation to knowingly expose workers to hazardous conditions?
If it isn't a civil offense, it is definitely an OSHA violation.
Hm. I do know that the state attorney general of NY cited Amazon for something related to this, sooo..probably.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: Asclepius] 1
#26683322 - 05/20/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asclepius said: Do you think it is right for your employer to force you to work, if you were exposed to a co-worker who already tested positive for Covid-19? Bear in mind that you and this co-worker were within close proximity to one another, shared some of the same items, and they were in fact positive for Covid-19 (but still awaiting test results) for the entire duration of the shift. As it so happens, this is what recently happened to me. I have since developed a sore throat and dry cough, so I decided to call into work today and got tested for Covid-19 just this morning -- I am now awaiting the test results. Meanwhile, many of my fellow co-workers were also exposed to this individual that tested positive, and the company is requiring them to come into work.
Does anyone else find this odd?
You’re supposed to quarantine for 14 days in that situation. Pretty sure the first coronavirus bill made sick leave mandatory for all employees.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: koods]
#26683328 - 05/20/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP are you in food service?
I would call your state attorney generals office and report what is happening. That situation is extremely fucked up.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: koods]
#26683822 - 05/20/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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My employer offered us a voluntary 14-day quarantine without pay; however, they said we also would not qualify for unemployment if we elected to take it. Also, we are asked a series of questions each day before we come into work, one question being: "Have you recently been exposed to someone who had Covid-19?" If we respond with a "yes" to the question, we automatically are turned away from the entrance to the facility and asked to quarantine. I raised this issue with HR as they were aware of the situation... You will not believe the response I received. The HR personnel informed that, and I quote, "Technically you were not exposed to someone who had the virus, because you were not less than 6 feet apart from the infected person for more than 15 minutes without a mask on." In short, they can make up whatever gobbledegook they want and expect us to believe it, even though it ignores sound science. The HR also said the person was not contagious because they were asymptomatic. I asked them, since when are asymptomatic carriers no longer contagious? They responded with, "We are not here to debate the CDC recommendations with you. It's fine that you have your personal beliefs, but we are going by the CDC guidelines."
In short, profits before people, Koods -- it's the American way.
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Edited by Asclepius (05/20/20 05:39 PM)
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: Asclepius] 1
#26683833 - 05/20/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well that’s against the law. 14 day paid sick leave is the law until the end of the year.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employee-paid-leave
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Edited by koods (05/20/20 05:35 PM)
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That's what some of us thought. The fact they asked us to lie about exposure to an infected person, just so we could gain entrance into the facility, and knowing full well that someone in our area was infected and that we were exposed to that person, is fucking insane! It's Orwellian, truly.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: koods]
#26683862 - 05/20/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I read this:
"Employers also should request that the infected employee identify all co-workers with whom he or she has come in close contact in the workplace in the past 14 days, and since the positive test. The employer should inform those employees that they may have been exposed to COVID-19 and send them home to seek treatment from their health care providers to ensure they have not contracted COVID-19. It is important for employers to remember their obligation to not violate confidentiality laws by disclosing the name of the infected employee to others."
It seems it may not be a requirement but optional. Where the fuck is Enlil when we need him?
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: Asclepius]
#26683987 - 05/20/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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“Should” in legalease means it’s required
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: koods]
#26683991 - 05/20/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: “Should” in legalease means it’s required
That is 100% false.
I have to argue the difference between should and shall almost every day.
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Re: Exposure to Covid in the Workplace [Re: mycosis]
#26684050 - 05/20/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You’re right
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