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Kemist13
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White psilocybe black psilocybe
#26682672 - 05/20/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc. Wet unchartered native nz bush, ground floor growing through leaves Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc. White and black
Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc. White heavy blue bruising Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Spore print color: Very important! Tomorrow
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any. Blue
Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills. Earthy, took along time to bruise, old one looks completely bruised to black
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Kemist13] 1
#26682688 - 05/20/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like Leucoagaricus caerulescens to me, but I've never seen them in person and I'm not sure if they grow in your whereabouts.
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Allium
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: velho]
#26682760 - 05/20/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, you're good man
I believe that is exactly what they are, a very rare blue staining Leucoagaricus, good find!
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Allium]
#26682844 - 05/20/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Allium said: I believe that is exactly what they are, a very rare blue staining Leucoagaricus, good find!
Did you find this in NZ? If so, you should perhaps wait for more opinions, since it apparently hasn't been found there. It appears to be occurring only in North America. Cool find, whatever it is though.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#26682847 - 05/20/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#26683307 - 05/20/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said:
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Allium said: I believe that is exactly what they are, a very rare blue staining Leucoagaricus, good find!
Did you find this in NZ? If so, you should perhaps wait for more opinions, since it apparently hasn't been found there. It appears to be occurring only in North America. Cool find, whatever it is though.
I recall seeing some paper about a couple of blueing Leucoagaricus species also found in China and India. Not sure thought, might be my mind playing tricks on me.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
#26683442 - 05/20/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, found in BOP NZ.
Was looking in native bush where it’s secluded and isolated, looking for our native P. Makararoe.
I thought maybe it’s sterile. Can find any info here, it took hours to bruise blue,
I have never seen a white Psilocybin mushroom here and cannot find any info.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Kemist13]
#26683495 - 05/20/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I Can Tell You Just From Looking That Is Not A Psilocybe Sp.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: MpSeph]
#26683538 - 05/20/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Moria841]
#26683541 - 05/20/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Very very interesting.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Allium]
#26683555 - 05/20/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://mushroomobserver.org/species_list/show_species_list/1415
Also check out this very interesting guide on Mushroom observer
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Moria841]
#26683560 - 05/20/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are so many mushrooms that bruise blue that aren't even psychoactive, who knew!
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: MpSeph]
#26683570 - 05/20/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you think the blue stain is not psilocybin?
There is a very long story I won’t get into on here but iv followed an ancient mythology from my ancestors to this special place I found These samples.
Very few if any humans would have been here in the last 1000 years.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Kemist13]
#26683605 - 05/20/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I'm Not Trying To Bash Your Journey My Friend, But Keep Looking.
Even Though You Say Humans Haven't Been There In A Very Long Time, (Unless This A New Species, Which I Highly, Highly Doubt Considering It Doesn't Even Resemble Any Known Active Sp Out Of The 200+ Sp There Are In The Psilocybe Genus & Others) I Do Not Think It Contains Psilocybin/Psilocin.
There Are Plenty Of Non Active Sp That Bruise Blue. When Identifying Psilocybin Mushrooms, The Blueish Bruising We Look For Is Only 1 Of Many Identification Factors That Come Into Play.
I Do Not Think It Is Active, I Could Be Wrong, But I Advise You Not To Eat It, Send It To Someone Who Can Test It.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: MpSeph]
#26683744 - 05/20/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome thanks for your input, I appreciate it, I’m not an expert by any means so I really don’t know what I’m talking about, I don’t think this is a new species, but it certainly is new to my area/region. After researching I’m almost positive it’s a bluing Leucoagaricus species that is unidentified yet in my country.
Any more input is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: MpSeph]
#26683785 - 05/20/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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We have access to lots of potent psilocybin here, so I won’t need to eat this lmao.
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Kemist13]
#26683815 - 05/20/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Try contacting Rockerfeller and see if he'll test it, could be interesting....?
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: sbkn]
#26683927 - 05/20/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think this is a much cooler find than a psilocybe species. Those things grow all over the place!
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Moria841]
#26684225 - 05/20/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I concur!
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Re: White psilocybe black psilocybe [Re: Moria841]
#26684439 - 05/20/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you zoom on to the cap in picture 3, you can see a few spots with slight dark blue hue. Very cool find.
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Moria841 said: http://mushroomobserver.org/species_list/show_species_list/1415 Also check out this very interesting guide on Mushroom observer
Endless learning and entertainment right there, thank you Moria.
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