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Caramelbingbong
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woodlovers not fruiting?
#26682143 - 05/19/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey so I've been working on cultivating some p allenii and p subaeruginosa. I went from agar to grain spawn, that got contaminated.

So i seperated the nicely colonised bits, and chucked it in a couple black plastic pots, and mixed it in with some hardwood wood chip mulch that i pasturised and soaked for about a day.
  
I put them outside with some wet cardboard ontop to keep some moisture in. After a fortnight to my delight it all looked like it was colonising nicely

Its been 16 days since that last photo, and the pots with woodchips look thick with bright white mycellium. I've been watering them every couple days to make sure it stays moist. I keep them in a small out door greenhouse that doesnt get any direct sunlight and keeps some humidity but not lots. temperature max's are around 20-15 C and mins are around 5-11 C. I haven't seen any signs of fruitng despite them looking fully colonised for the past week or so.
I guess my question is: what should i do with them to give myself the best chance of them fruiting? put them indoors in a more humid environment? mix them into soil or something? change the temp?
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I’m no expert on wood lovers at all especially those 2 species but many wood lovers like ps cyan and ps azur take months or longer to fruit once they have an established bed.
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Just keep it outside and wait for the fall for fruiting conditions to be right. You could expand what you have into a bed of wood chips. Won't fruit until fall.
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bobwastaken
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woodlovers can take a long time to fruit. I would be very surprised if you got fruits so soon. If it's colonizing leave it be. Don't put them indoors or contaminants will run rampant especially at higher temps. Most outdoor patches don't fruit first season unless they're prepared and consolidated well in advance. I'd keep feeding and expanding your cultures ready for next year. If they're ready to fruit they'll do so.
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Caramelbingbong
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Re: woodlovers not fruiting? [Re: bobwastaken]
#26682276 - 05/20/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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OK awesome, thanks for all the replies guys, I knew woodlovers were finicky but didn't realise how long it could take for fruit to occur. Probably should have mentioned im in Aus, so its our fall now, thats why I was hoping for fruit now.
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woodlovers can take a long time to fruit. I would be very surprised if you got fruits so soon. If it's colonizing leave it be. Don't put them indoors or contaminants will run rampant especially at higher temps. Most outdoor patches don't fruit first season unless they're prepared and consolidated well in advance. I'd keep feeding and expanding your cultures ready for next year. If they're ready to fruit they'll do so.
As far as keeping it going for another year, what do you think is the best way to do that? I'm close to Adelaide CBD, so it gets very hot and dry as I'm sure youre aware Bob. I was thinking I could create small a woodchip garden bed in a shaded area, and mix in the colonised chips and maybe some coir or soil. Then water through the rest of winter and leave it alone over summer. maybe cover it with some leaf litter.
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Stipe-n Cap


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The allenii fruits occur in cold weather conditions, how cold does it get in Aus? subaeruginosa may need more than one season.
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Caramelbingbong
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Re: woodlovers not fruiting? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26682314 - 05/20/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Where I am it only gets down to about 5 maybe 4C at lowest.
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bobwastaken
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Caramelbingbong said:
As far as keeping it going for another year, what do you think is the best way to do that? I'm close to Adelaide CBD, so it gets very hot and dry as I'm sure youre aware Bob. I was thinking I could create small a woodchip garden bed in a shaded area, and mix in the colonised chips and maybe some coir or soil. Then water through the rest of winter and leave it alone over summer. maybe cover it with some leaf litter.
Sounds a good plan. Letting it dry out over summer is a good idea as it replicates the natural season and prevents competitors moving in over the warm months. Water again next autumn and there's a good chance you'll get fruits. You may also want to consider breaking up your spawn and expanding some of your mycelium in flower pots as well as starting several beds in different locations so as not to keep your eggs in one basket in the event competitor fungi/insects become a problem. I recommend you take a look at Olives thread for ideas as he's made oodles of successful outdoor beds and posted follow ups.
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Caramelbingbong
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Re: woodlovers not fruiting? [Re: bobwastaken]
#26682354 - 05/20/20 01:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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great, cheers for the help bob, youre a legend
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