Home | Community | Message Board

Cannabis Seeds Zamnesia
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Offlinethelubbelow
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/16/19
Posts: 19
Last seen: 3 years, 6 months
Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk?
    #26679192 - 05/18/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hello all,

So I'm still a total noob at this and I'm a little stuck here so thought I'd reach out for some advice with these pictures.  These are 24oz 5-grain blend jars that have been colonizing for almost two months (taken much longer than I thought but they look healthy enough...)  They have stalled out at this point and are not colonizing any further, I'd say they are 90 - 95% colonized.  There are three of these jars in total and these pictures are of these 3 jars taken from multiple angles - the bottoms have not colonized fully in all of them, and in one of them, there's about an inch or so up the side that is blank as well.  In looking at them again today, and you can see in one of the pictures, one of them is actively pinning. 

So, what do I do?  I was going to order some casing material today, wait until it comes in (about a week), then birth these cakes and...then what?  Can these even be used?  I guess I was going to take them out of the chamber they are in currently in a week (once the casing comes in), run it under some tap water to remove the un-colonized grain, then put them all in a blender to break it up, then mix in with the casing material and set up fruiting conditions once the myc ahas successfully re-colonized.  Could that still work given the stage these are in, or did I wait to long or is that fact that they stalled out on the bottom an indication that the myc is just plain messed up?

Would appreciate ANY pointers / advice on if I can salvage this particular grow or not, thank you -

thelubbelow



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDigDug
Cultivator

Registered: 05/05/20
Posts: 201
Last seen: 7 months, 24 days
Re: Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk? [Re: thelubbelow]
    #26679246 - 05/18/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So are these cakes, or are you planning on spawning to bulk?  I am a little confused about that. 

If these are grains that you are spawning to bulk...

I am not saying this is the correct thing to do, but in my experience, I have spawned jars that were 95% colonized to a bulk substrate.  I still got fruits and didn't see any noticeable difference between when my grains were 100% colonized.  You are probably at greater risk for contamination this way though.  It's probably frowned upon a little bit, but it's better than throwing it in the trash, IMO.

In the future, if you plan on spawning to bulk, save some empty space in the top of your jar.  Then after you get a nice chunk of mycelium, you can shake the jar and spread it around.  This will allow your jars to colonize a lot quicker.  Can you clarify what type of Tek you are using with this grow?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinethelubbelow
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/16/19
Posts: 19
Last seen: 3 years, 6 months
Re: Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk? [Re: DigDug]
    #26679371 - 05/18/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, DigDug.  These are rye berries and I was planning on doing a monotub type grow with them, taking them out of the jars, breaking them up, and then mixing into a bulk substrate mix and adding light and moisture...that said, could I also just put them in a regular fruiting chamber like BRF cakes and grow right off the sides?  Or can you only do that with BRF tek?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDigDug
Cultivator

Registered: 05/05/20
Posts: 201
Last seen: 7 months, 24 days
Re: Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk? [Re: thelubbelow]
    #26680618 - 05/19/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I am not sure.  Bump for someone who knows...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSockadin
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 3 months, 7 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk? [Re: DigDug]
    #26680643 - 05/19/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Those jars are super bacteria riddled. I would not mix them to bulk as the uncolonized grains will be super susceptible to molds.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepoisoned
untitled
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 1,738
Loc: Yurop
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
Re: Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26680718 - 05/19/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Grab a spoon and scrape out whatever is colonised. It's better to leave some colonised spawn in the jar instead of trying to get every last bit of it.


--------------------
How I do glass dishes


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemicelio
Song of Silence
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/22/14
Posts: 1,547
Re: Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk? [Re: poisoned]
    #26680726 - 05/19/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:


--------------------
     


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRoger Clemency
Smile
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/23/20
Posts: 2,005
Re: Jars almost fully colonized and stalled, can I still spawn to bullk? [Re: poisoned]
    #26680752 - 05/19/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Here is some good reading for your future grows - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021

Some of your terminology is off so could be confusing to others. What you have there is grain spawn. Which you would use to ‘spawn to bulk‘ in a tub to create a monotub. So grain spawn + bulk substrate (coir/vermiculite) would be mixed to make a monotub or shoe box or tray. A casing is a layer you add on top of your mixed bulk.

All that said, you can use those to spawn to bulk even though one in particular looks pretty bacterial. I would do single shoe boxes or trays with each jar. Use a spoon to break out the colonized grains and mix them by hand with your bulk substrate. No blender for that.

They may have stalled because of overly wet grains at the bottom, because of bacteria, or a lack of gas exchange. They seem pretty tall and slim and you don’t really have any extra room inside. Like someone mentioned earlier you want space at the top so you can shake the jars once they’re about 30% colonized.


--------------------
Sour grapes, sweet revenge
Heaven starts right where hell ends


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Are my jars fully colonized? celsius 3,677 2 06/28/01 02:17 PM
by celsius
* Bottom of Jars not colonizing SpaceCruiser 3,401 2 04/25/02 07:39 AM
by frank_grimes
* question about "fully colonized" jars xfluffybunnyx 2,918 2 09/22/02 10:04 PM
by StS
* some of the jars fully col. some not 3ptCrown 1,160 1 12/19/01 12:18 PM
by Trail_Blazer
* Fully Colonized Jar Cranberry Juice Method? Under_net 3,751 1 01/04/02 06:07 PM
by Trail_Blazer
* How long will pint jars last when fully colonized? CrzyMoFuCkEr420 3,646 13 10/29/02 07:28 AM
by Anno
* Jars won't fully colonize--Help!! Eyeball_Kid3 2,176 1 06/16/02 07:41 PM
by C12H17N204P
* Ooh fully colonized!! Oompa_Shrooma 3,295 5 05/21/01 05:01 PM
by bluhoney

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
1,623 topic views. 30 members, 182 guests and 75 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.019 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 12 queries.