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Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety.
    #26677766 - 05/17/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So a M8 passed me some "giant" thornless Pereskiopsis that apparently can grow stems upwards of half an inch thick and also has no glochids. These were smaller pieces that are already bigger than the usual Pereskiopsis I use in grafting. I was wondering if anyone could identify specifically what it is? Actually, IDing both of them would be great.

The first image is the giant stuff.
The second image is a comparison with my usual plants.
The last picture is the usual stock I use.



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Re: Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety. [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26679148 - 05/18/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not sure

but my guess would actually be some kind of Quiabentia


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Re: Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety. [Re: Solipsis]
    #26679751 - 05/18/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have my doubts about it being a Quibentia, since those are vicious, if not outright hostile plants that grow into trees and are covered in the equivalent of sewing needles. I entertained that it could be a Quiabentia in the past but it doesn't fit the bill. I've never known one to be thornless.

My Quiabentia Verticiliata that I'm propagating. Supposedly its a good grafting stock but its so slow growing that I doubt it.



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Re: Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety. [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26680980 - 05/19/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

mmhm

i just do know Quiabentia - forgot the species i have in mind - has been known to go around as jumbo peres (too). Havent grown it myself yet.

I do have Pereskiopsis aquosa which has a lot of similarity (at least to spathulata), very fat stem tho.. i figured like prob others do as well, that it could be better than regular peres.

There are advantages i guess. i'm not yet versed with impale grafts and it doesnt seem suitable anyway for wide but 'low' slice of loph button for example.. i don't exactly swim in tricho to graft on. Tricho also is sensitive here to weeping black rot spots, i think in part from insect bites.. but blue myrtles seem much more resistant to all that so i wanna use those as my bigger grafting stocks..

anyway the point is, i find it interesting and all and i havent explored all these alternatives but surely others have.. and i can see if regular peres generally cant really be beaten and these medium size alternatives seem good for particular jobs, mostly matching size-wise.

that wasnt your question i realize, so i guess carry on hopefully someone can ID it


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Re: Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety. [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26690541 - 05/23/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

first one is a etiolated pereskiopsis aquosa, it sure produces spination, second is pere spathulata

some pics from last summer









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Re: Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety. [Re: Feroxx]
    #26691099 - 05/23/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I always thought Aquosa had shorter, more gem-like polished leaves, almost like flowing water.

Not sure why it would be etiolated since its inside a greenhouse covered in 40% shade cloth. I figured if the Trichocereus next to it are doing fine and all the other peres are doing fine, this one would too, or does it require full scorching sunlight?

https://botanyphoto.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/2014/07/pereskiopsis-aquosa/

I'll take cuttings when its big enough and plant some outside in my garden. How good is it for grafting?


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Re: Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety. [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26692821 - 05/24/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

that page is wrong, that pere is pere rotundifolia

i dont grow them in full sun, have you had them grow for a while ?

never grafted anything in them, but they should be nice

here is my harvest from 2 years back











when cutting on lower more woody level it has lines instead of circles



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Re: Identifying a giant pereskiopsis variety. [Re: Feroxx]
    #26696597 - 05/26/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I just got the cuttings from a M8 earlier in the spring and keep them in an in-ground bed where I grow a few Bridgesii & Peruvians, as well as some Pereskiopsis. They aren't very old yet and they get a fair amount of sun there. None of the cactus are stretching, nor any of the plants near the bed. 40% Shade cloth diffuses the sun in the hottest hours, trees add more shade to the back wall, along with opaque plastic breaking up the light during the morning hours.

Maybe they are too small to show thorns or anything. The person who sent them to me grows them on a porch and without a lot of direct light.


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