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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26673507 - 05/15/20 08:11 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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After the annexation of Crimea you tried to convince everyone that they wanted to be invaded and loved putin



NO.

I said Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and 96% of Crimeans voted to rejoin Russia.

Pew public opinion polling confirmed these numbers, as did a trip I took to Crimea (you don't have to believe me about my trip).

I also said Crimeans are pro-Russia, but not necessarily pro-Putin.

Any more make believe to share?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26673520 - 05/15/20 08:15 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You do know the vote was boycotted by the pro Ukrainian population.

It’s just ridiculous that you defend a vote run by an invading force two months after the invaded. That’s just not a legitimate exercise in democracy


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: koods]
    #26673533 - 05/15/20 08:20 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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You do know the vote was boycotted by the pro Ukrainian population.



Were Crimean votes counted?

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It’s just ridiculous that you defend a vote run by an invading force two months after the invaded. That’s just not a legitimate exercise in democracy



You think a US backed coup against the Ukrainian government was a legitimate exercise in democracy?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26673540 - 05/15/20 08:22 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

I wouldn’t. Putin is 10 times more malicious than Trump and about a million times more competent.

Biden is just the senile homeless man outside the liquor store that the ruling class convinces to buy booze for them.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil]
    #26674883 - 05/16/20 01:23 PM (2 months, 22 days ago)

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Enlil said:
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natedawgnow said:
4th amendment
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

It can easily be argued that in the digital age, "papers" can easily be interpreted as
digital media/emails etc.

Also, a warrant is supposed to be needed to access cell phone data already,
possible precedent for digital privacy



It doesn't allow them to see the content of internet traffic without a warrant.



Well, enlil, seeing as you access your email through a web browser, I don't see
it as that much of a stretch to think they can use that as an excuse to gain entry to such things.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26674921 - 05/16/20 01:48 PM (2 months, 22 days ago)

First, I don't use a browser to access emails. If I did, I don't see how that would give them access to content.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil]
    #26675076 - 05/16/20 03:06 PM (2 months, 22 days ago)

We'll see I guess.

Being able to access browser data is bad enough even if there were zero threat of
unethical activity using this law as justification


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26675082 - 05/16/20 03:10 PM (2 months, 22 days ago)

I've seen no indication that they will be able to access browser data either.  It appears it's only search history.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26675227 - 05/16/20 04:19 PM (2 months, 22 days ago)

Why do you hate freedom so much?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26675274 - 05/16/20 04:42 PM (2 months, 22 days ago)

How does this impact your freedom?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26679156 - 05/18/20 02:59 PM (2 months, 20 days ago)

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sh4d0ws said:
Why do you hate freedom so much?




That's a good question..


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue]
    #26679281 - 05/18/20 04:33 PM (2 months, 20 days ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue]
    #26679409 - 05/18/20 05:22 PM (2 months, 20 days ago)

I like the freedom; away from your freedom.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan]
    #26854334 - 07/30/20 08:17 PM (9 days, 15 hours ago)

Told ya. He's working on it.








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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #26854362 - 07/30/20 08:36 PM (9 days, 15 hours ago)

I think the followup to that tweet is much more insidious.

"Must know Election results on the night of the Election, not days, months, or even years later!"

Seems legit on the surface, until you realize that mail in votes are due on election day. This sets him up on the surface to be "defending the election" from his own earlier ideas of postponing the election...but it also implicitly sets up the idea that votes not counted by midnight are not legitimate.

Now, this doesn;t just affect mailed votes...this affects votes that are not counted by midnight for any reason. Such as, say, those votes being cast in highly populated areas with few open polling stations where resources are intentionally spread as thinly as possible.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Kryptos]
    #26854594 - 07/30/20 11:13 PM (9 days, 12 hours ago)

Legitimate question: Why are we even entertaining mail in voting? Set the voting booths outside. Most of the left and those against Trump insist that protesting outside shoulder to shoulder is ok. Take that logic, vote outside instead of inside and fuck mail in voting. There's literally no reason for it according to the left's own logic, and the right doesn't want it in the first place.

Who benefits MOST from mail-in voting? Those that want to create a fraudulent result.

Who is anti-mail in voting? Trump.

Seems pretty obvious Trump wants a fair election.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Vahn421] * 3
    #26854637 - 07/30/20 11:43 PM (9 days, 12 hours ago)

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Legitimate question: Why are we even entertaining mail in voting? Set the voting booths outside. Most of the left and those against Trump insist that protesting outside shoulder to shoulder is ok. Take that logic, vote outside instead of inside and fuck mail in voting. There's literally no reason for it according to the left's own logic, and the right doesn't want it in the first place.

Who benefits MOST from mail-in voting? Those that want to create a fraudulent result.

Who is anti-mail in voting? Trump.

Seems pretty obvious Trump wants a fair election.



Have any proof of significant mail in voting fraud?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26854651 - 07/30/20 11:54 PM (9 days, 12 hours ago)

I hope this sample suffices. The first few are in relation to fraud. The last few are in relation to incompetence. The problem is so much more widespread than this and I hope that's clear once you realize these stories are nothing more than a sample size. Voting by mail is a surefire way for both sides to accuse one another of foul-play and send our nation deeper into civil war.

You know, my grandfather is going to vote for Biden. I tried talking him out of it, but he died years ago. :lol:

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/07/23/feds-accuse-ex-philly-congressman-michael-j-ozzie-myers-of-stuffing-ballots/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/politics/new-jersey-attorney-general-announces-voting-fraud-charges/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/dead-cat-gets-voter-registration-application-in-the-mail/ar-BB16CwE1

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vote-by-mail-ballot-counted-election/

https://www.ktvu.com/news/california-rejected-100k-mail-in-ballots-because-of-mistakes


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26854684 - 07/31/20 12:27 AM (9 days, 11 hours ago)

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I hope this sample suffices. The first few are in relation to fraud. The last few are in relation to incompetence. The problem is so much more widespread than this and I hope that's clear once you realize these stories are nothing more than a sample size. Voting by mail is a surefire way for both sides to accuse one another of foul-play and send our nation deeper into civil war.

You know, my grandfather is going to vote for Biden. I tried talking him out of it, but he died years ago. :lol:



If it's such an issue why does Trump vote by mail? Is he calling his own vote fraudulent? I could match you link for link showing there is fraud with in person voting too but I'm not interested in random stories. I want the overall numbers of in person voting fraud compared to mail in voting fraud. I assume these are the numbers you used to determine that mail in voting poses a significantly higher risk of fraud. Convince me with hard numbers and facts.
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https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/07/23/feds-accuse-ex-philly-congressman-michael-j-ozzie-myers-of-stuffing-ballots/



Accused, not convicted.
Quote:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/politics/new-jersey-attorney-general-announces-voting-fraud-charges/index.html



Again, charged and not convicted.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/dead-cat-gets-voter-registration-application-in-the-mail/ar-BB16CwE1



Did the cat vote?
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vote-by-mail-ballot-counted-election/



Not proof of anything.
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https://www.ktvu.com/news/california-rejected-100k-mail-in-ballots-because-of-mistakes



Hardly a significant number compared to the national average.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Vahn421]
    #26855958 - 07/31/20 06:07 PM (8 days, 18 hours ago)

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Legitimate question: Why are we even entertaining mail in voting? Set the voting booths outside. Most of the left and those against Trump insist that protesting outside shoulder to shoulder is ok. Take that logic, vote outside instead of inside and fuck mail in voting. There's literally no reason for it according to the left's own logic, and the right doesn't want it in the first place.

Who benefits MOST from mail-in voting? Those that want to create a fraudulent result.

Who is anti-mail in voting? Trump.

Seems pretty obvious Trump wants a fair election.



Everyone benefits from mail in voting . Theres no evidence of widespread mail in voter fraud and you shouldn't have to pick between you being exposed to covid and voting in an election. This is an election that hasn't been delayed through the Spanish flu or even the civil war no president has ever tried to move the election because it's illegal as fuck, against our constitution. Even Tucker Carlson didn't back him up on that because it's fucking insane. He knows he will lose because he's killing people and he will have us wait until when? After half a million people are dead and the pandemic still will require mail in voting. You just reguritte what Trump says hard to take you serious sometimes


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