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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
    #26683563 - 05/20/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yep- strange but true.  Genetic lottery but way more prevalent with wild cubes IME.  B+ has been the lightest-staining variety I've ever grown, I would add to that.  The box in the photo I shared almost didnn't bruise at all.  Veeeery little and again- almost a greenish/dark tinge.  Oddly consistent with B+.  There have been a number of threads on this over the years (non-staining cubes, I mean).  Doesn't happen all that often to have non-bruising genetics but it's a thing.  To OP: do't sleep on the potency.  I've had cubes that don't bruise put my dick in the dirt.  :trippydoc:



Very interesting! Thanks for the info!  And I'm not to concerned with potency haha. I have many others that got that covered already. My concern is mainly correct labeling for my library.


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: mushhead]
    #26683566 - 05/20/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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There's a tiny bit of tinge to some of the stumps if you give it the close up treatment, but very, very little to be sure.  The tinge is almost a little greenish-blue and very light.  Some cubes just don't bruise much at all.  Some that don't exhibit are still potent and some that bruise like they've been colored with a sharrpie aren't worth a shit as far as potency.  I find both to be the exception to the rule.  I used to pick thosand and thousands of cubes along the gulf coast and found more non-bruising specimens in the wild.  I'd bring bags and bags of mush home and sometimes after alllll that handling and hobbling around at night and dropping shit... still some specimens wouldn't bruise.  Bruising and respective color variation are just recently being brought into better focus in the scientific community, and still aren't understood fully.  I find B+ to stain lightly and sometimes not much at all, and I have a theory that overly-wet mushrooms (at the time of harvest) seem to show less bruising.  Just my observational theory.




So some fruits wont bruise? I believed this to be a constant with fruits I've grown. I've never found wild Psilocybes before - other than a chance encounter with Panaeolus cinctulus during a hike which was eaten, they don't occur wild where I live.
From my observations every cube i've ever grown has bruised no matter the potency so seeing cubes without bruising is surreal.
I hope to have a personal experience with this, it would be a sight to see up close.


well if you want I can send you a print haha


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: microdose83]
    #26683810 - 05/20/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'd truly love to add this to my B+ Genetics.
B+ is by far my most favored of any cube.
It's so ready to mutate its not even funny.


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: mushhead]
    #26683858 - 05/20/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well send me your address and I'll mail you a print haha


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: microdose83] * 2
    #26688097 - 05/22/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)


Just thought I'd leave this here - Getting closer.


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: mushhead]
    #26688137 - 05/22/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Right on, mushhead.


Figured I'd drop an example of a non-bruising cube here.  On the L is a PF Classic.  On the R is a Fiji.  Both 10min after cutting.  Weird af, right? (both runts came from neglected novelty grows from the same (bacterial AF) spawn and bulk mediums).  Usually my Fijis bruise wherever handled, so zero clue why this happens...:shrug:  The mystery continues... :bongload:


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26688301 - 05/22/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I would love to study this up close sometime.
I hope it happens soon within my immediate future.
Do you think there are certain kind of environment specifics needed to produce such an effect?


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
    #26688456 - 05/22/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Right on, mushhead.


Figured I'd drop an example of a non-bruising cube here.  On the L is a PF Classic.  On the R is a Fiji.  Both 10min after cutting.  Weird af, right? (both runts came from neglected novelty grows from the same (bacterial AF) spawn and bulk mediums).  Usually my Fijis bruise wherever handled, so zero clue why this happens...:shrug:  The mystery continues... :bongload:



Haha wild!


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: mushhead]
    #26688457 - 05/22/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I would love to study this up close sometime.
I hope it happens soon within my immediate future.
Do you think there are certain kind of environment specifics needed to produce such an effect?



No clue on my end lol. But should have yours in the mail by tomorrow


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: microdose83]
    #26688473 - 05/22/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Cool pics mang. With typical strains, its very hard to determine what the strain is. Only with mutant strains u can easily tell.


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: mushhead]
    #26688512 - 05/22/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I would love to study this up close sometime.
I hope it happens soon within my immediate future.
Do you think there are certain kind of environment specifics needed to produce such an effect?




Ya know... it doesn't seem to be realated to water content of sub, temps, or anything clearly measurable like that.  You could throw the "genetics" blanket over the question, but there are holes in that as well...  I notice that bacterial spawn tends to produce more non-staining fruits, but some bacterial spawn I've used stains like mad.  If you do some experiments with this (or anyone else for that matter) I'd love to have a window into them.  There's been headway into the issue of the "whys" of staining as of recent, but not enough to answer why some do not stain.  Really has me curious as well, bud...


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
    #26688522 - 05/22/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

One thing for sure if you get bacteria or any contam that affects the area where a shroom is growing it’ll stain like crazy.

I think it’s from whatever eating at the root of the mushroom. One time I had some weird mold type thing on part of the tub and when I picked the half grown shrooms from that area the bottoms were like dark blue jelly.


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26688547 - 05/22/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I would love to study this up close sometime.
I hope it happens soon within my immediate future.
Do you think there are certain kind of environment specifics needed to produce such an effect?



No clue on my end lol. But should have yours in the mail by tomorrow



Can't wait to start it out on agar.

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Ya know... it doesn't seem to be realated to water content of sub, temps, or anything clearly measurable like that.  You could throw the "genetics" blanket over the question, but there are holes in that as well...  I notice that bacterial spawn tends to produce more non-staining fruits, but some bacterial spawn I've used stains like mad.  If you do some experiments with this (or anyone else for that matter) I'd love to have a window into them.  There's been headway into the issue of the "whys" of staining as of recent, but not enough to answer why some do not stain.  Really has me curious as well, bud...



My opinion is that a combination of genetics/environment is the root cause of non-bruising cubes, perhaps they are bruising but its not a color we can discern?

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Cool pics mang. With typical strains, its very hard to determine what the strain is. Only with mutant strains u can easily tell.



I love to speculate though :stoned:

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One thing for sure if you get bacteria or any contam that affects the area where a shroom is growing it’ll stain like crazy.

I think it’s from whatever eating at the root of the mushroom. One time I had some weird mold type thing on part of the tub and when I picked the half grown shrooms from that area the bottoms were like dark blue jelly.




If you were being physically attacked by a foreign body you wouldn't look too solid yourself.
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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26688908 - 05/22/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I would love to study this up close sometime.
I hope it happens soon within my immediate future.
Do you think there are certain kind of environment specifics needed to produce such an effect?




Ya know... it doesn't seem to be realated to water content of sub, temps, or anything clearly measurable like that.  You could throw the "genetics" blanket over the question, but there are holes in that as well...  I notice that bacterial spawn tends to produce more non-staining fruits, but some bacterial spawn I've used stains like mad.  If you do some experiments with this (or anyone else for that matter) I'd love to have a window into them.  There's been headway into the issue of the "whys" of staining as of recent, but not enough to answer why some do not stain.  Really has me curious as well, bud...



Hmmmmm. Should we do some experimental science grows?  And make a new thread and post our findings?  It still has me curious haha.


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: microdose83]
    #26690729 - 05/23/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)


B+
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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #26691026 - 05/23/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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B+
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Sure is purdy!  And looks nothing like my B+ πŸ˜‚


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: microdose83] * 1
    #26698006 - 05/26/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Got some Rusty whites to come out stainless too! Hahaha


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: microdose83]
    #26698019 - 05/26/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:tryingnottodie:
That's pretty interesting two of your tubs came out like that.
What are ya doing with the dragon fruit?


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: mushhead]
    #26698039 - 05/26/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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That's pretty interesting two of your tubs came out like that.
What are ya doing with the dragon fruit?



Right! πŸ˜‚. I know for a fact that these are the Rusty's though haha. So it's gotta be something that I'm doing haha. I'm letting them callous over and then gonna plant em haha


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Re: Suppose to be B+ [Re: microdose83]
    #26698117 - 05/26/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I've got some dragon fruit rooting rn as well!
I brought it back from Cali in dimension E-261.


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