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What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look?
    #26676449 - 05/17/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hi all,

I am relatively new to this, I'm only on my second grow.  I'm still trying to dial everything in, figure out how much FAE, misting, etc.

Recently my fruits are much shorter, fatter, the caps seem to have a white dusting, and are kind of wrinkled.





Compare the photos to one from my first batch (which I assume is more like how they are supposed to look).





This grow is a clone from the first. (agar to grain) so genetics should not be an issue.  The first grow was from a kit and used straw and dirt.  For this one I'm using oats and coir, in an unmodified tub.

What is causing this?  Too wet, too dry?  Too much, not enough FAE?  Something else?  I do not have enough experience to know...




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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: mweiss001]
    #26676452 - 05/17/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The first pic is way too wet.

The second one looks dry.

Third one will be juuuuust right lol.



The white on the caps is just the veil remnants.

Some types just have more than others.


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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26676528 - 05/17/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The "white dusting" is the remaining universal veil. I also got a lot of that and thought it was something bad lol

As they grow, it will most likely shrink and even disappear completely.

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The first pic is way too wet.

The second one looks dry.

Third one will be juuuuust right lol.



The white on the caps is just the veil remnants.

Some types just have more than others.





Don't want to hijack this thread but maybe this is useful for the OP as well. How can you so easily tell when a substrate is too wet/too dry? To me both pictures look almost identical lol


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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26676533 - 05/17/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They got rearranged since I posted.

The first two pics now in the op are the dry ones.

The pic I posted of the cluster with the white dots is also pretty dry.


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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26676550 - 05/17/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You learn over time. Dry looks dry. Wet looks wet? The mushrooms will be the largest indicator of surface conditions.

In the OP post the Mycelium is very yellow


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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26676564 - 05/17/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Does the yellow mean it got too dry at some point?
Is there anything I can do about it now?


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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: mweiss001]
    #26676631 - 05/17/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I see it alot with kits. Just keep your RH up during fruiting cycle. It's about learning to adjust FAE and not really misting.

Also can be a sign of heat stress. If you are using a seed mat or heating blanket throw it out.

Also a sign of bacterial contamination.


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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26676706 - 05/17/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Its not a kit anymore.  My first grow was.  Then I cloned a live mushroom to agar, then agar to oats, then coir in an unmodified monotub.  I think that fact that I am new at this and using an unmodified tub, is making it extra hard to get FAE and misting right.  Because it is an unmodified tub, I have to rely on the small gap between the upside-down lid and the tub for FAE.  And because the lid can move slightly, the gap is not always the same.  Next time, I will probably try the regular version of the monotub (the one with 6 holes)


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Re: What is causing this short, fat, white powdered look? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26676723 - 05/17/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

A.k.a said:
They got rearranged since I posted.

The first two pics now in the op are the dry ones.

The pic I posted of the cluster with the white dots is also pretty dry.




Quote:

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You learn over time. Dry looks dry. Wet looks wet? The mushrooms will be the largest indicator of surface conditions.

In the OP post the Mycelium is very yellow




Ok, it makes sense now. Thank you :smile:


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