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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26675100 - 05/16/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I think the video is great Asante, really great.
I wholeheartedly agree with all therein.
I think you said you made it?
Can you attach it?
Thank you very much for your endorsement!
I cant attach it but Youtube videos are readily downloaded through services like http://ytmp3.cc/ just paste the link, select MP4, download, delete the spam page that opens unxeen and its on your desktop.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Asante]
#26675107 - 05/16/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asante, if you had to choose: are you helping the sun rise or set?
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Z33R01] 2
#26675130 - 05/16/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I rather help the sunrise, the Yang, the New Dawn, than the sunset, the Yin, the Old Dusk
The Universe eternally rejuvinates itself. God loves all things but he loves newborns the most.
Old people destroy the earth, a newborn virus destroys old people's capacity to do so.
What did it evolve from? From the very mess we make of things.
You got to turn a blind eye not to see.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Asante]
#26675189 - 05/16/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Interesting. So would you agree with me that Babylon (the worshipers of darkness, destruction, and wickedness) are fast approaching the end of their rule?
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26675190 - 05/16/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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InnerWisdom said: I told you wouldnt get it 
I do get it, I just also get how people can twist that around to fit whatever view they have about what constitutes "good". Don't they say the road to Hell is paved with good intentions?
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Thanatos10]
#26675197 - 05/16/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You dont get what is good for your "soul". Stop being so negative.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Z33R01]
#26675225 - 05/16/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Z33R01 said: Interesting. So would you agree with me that Babylon (the worshipers of darkness, destruction, and wickedness) are fast approaching the end of their rule?
Babylon is falling in our lifetime, we're witnessing it. But Babylon is the abomination, not its agents, so we change out minds and start moving towards Zion.
All the world is Zion, Africa at its center, we all need to shake off the yoke of Babylonian rule. We all can choose to further Babylon or Zion, choice has always been ours.
We're headed for a whopper of a paradigm shift.
To put it in Rastafarian terms
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Asante]
#26675287 - 05/16/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like the video. It leaves me feeling calm and content and more empathetic towards others.
My question is: why does the Universe reward good behavior?
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 1
#26675300 - 05/16/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good behavior and bad behavior are self correcting because its upon another guise of you that you commit it.
What you direct outward always directs inwards.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Asante]
#26675372 - 05/16/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm a little confused by what you mean. Are you saying that it's human nature to not be good or bad? Our natural state is neutral with regards to doing good or bad deeds?
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 1
#26675432 - 05/16/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: I'm a little confused by what you mean. Are you saying that it's human nature to not be good or bad? Our natural state is neutral with regards to doing good or bad deeds?
No what I mean is, since the other is also you, in another lifetime, doing them harm hurts you both ways and doing them good helps you both ways.
If I commit a crime on you, you become a victim and I become a criminal. Both of us are disadvantaged by this. If I do something wonderful for you, I elevate you and myself.
ESPECIALLY SINCE BOTH OF US ARE THE SAME PERSON IN DIFFERENT LIFETIMES.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26675492 - 05/16/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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InnerWisdom said: You dont get what is good for your "soul". Stop being so negative.
"Good" is relative. What is good for the spider is chaos for the fly.
It's largely why Astante is wrong.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 3
#26675497 - 05/16/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Are you saying that it's human nature to not be good or bad? Our natural state is neutral with regards to doing good or bad deeds?
You need to think way, way, way outside the box here. Forget human nature. That shit is for the birds.
What Asante is referring to is a concept - inherently improvable by science - but one which I have experienced directly, along with other philosophical heavyweights over the years.
Alan Watts, springs instantly to mind.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Asante]
#26675648 - 05/16/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: I'm a little confused by what you mean. Are you saying that it's human nature to not be good or bad? Our natural state is neutral with regards to doing good or bad deeds?
No what I mean is, since the other is also you, in another lifetime, doing them harm hurts you both ways and doing them good helps you both ways.
If I commit a crime on you, you become a victim and I become a criminal. Both of us are disadvantaged by this. If I do something wonderful for you, I elevate you and myself.
ESPECIALLY SINCE BOTH OF US ARE THE SAME PERSON IN DIFFERENT LIFETIMES.
ahhh okay, gotcha. But, are you implying that there is an equal amount of good and bad in the world, following the yin n yang thought process?
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#26675885 - 05/16/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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There is a proportional amount of Yin and Yang in every life, and therefore, in the world.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Thanatos10] 2
#26676017 - 05/17/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well we now know the fun of this thread is going to be sucked right out.
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Like most advertising it’s riddled with falsehoods and mistakes,
where
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almost too many to count least of all the quantum physics mistakes and misunderstandings.
He seemed pretty accurate
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Quantum physics doesn’t apply to the macro world.
Yes, it does.
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You are not the universe and everyone isn’t you.
No, he’s quite right on this one.
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When I hurt someone else I am not hurting myself.
I don’t think you’ll ever understand this one. Why are you on a psychedelic forum?
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This is all demonstrably false,
No, it isn’t.
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especially the part about making things better,
My attention span was lost by this part. Congratulations.
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because there is no such thing as better.
Yes there is.
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I mean you being everything leads to nihilism in the end,
This is subjective. Even Neitzsche hated nihilism.
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nothing matters.
. Like I said, you try to suck the fun out of everything, but you’re totally not a sociopath.
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In fact why not kill yourself so you don’t have to worry about making things better?
the fun-suck vacuum cleaner strikes again.
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I mean there would be no need to if everything is gone and it’s way easier than struggling.
well, i told everybody you have sociopathic tendencies, and I appreciate you confirming this.
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It would honestly take too long to point out everything wrong with this video.
Give it a try. Ill shoot you down with cold calculated logic and science every step of the way.
To assante.
I think your video was wordy. But I cant really disagree with it. I appreciate your attempt to put positive energy back into the universe.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: lowbrow]
#26676145 - 05/17/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't feed the troll
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Asante] 1
#26676278 - 05/17/20 05:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You’re hitting on two pretty fundamental Christian principles, the ‘whatsoever you do to the least of men you do to me etc’ and the double edge sword logic.. you/I.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: Amanita86]
#26676814 - 05/17/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're right. I never really realized that before.
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Re: General population of the Shroomery, what do you think of this video? [Re: lowbrow]
#26677563 - 05/17/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanatos10 said:
Well we now know the fun of this thread is going to be sucked right out.
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Thanatos10 said:
Like most advertising it’s riddled with falsehoods and mistakes,
where
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Thanatos10 said:
almost too many to count least of all the quantum physics mistakes and misunderstandings.
He seemed pretty accurate
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Quantum physics doesn’t apply to the macro world.
Yes, it does.
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You are not the universe and everyone isn’t you.
No, he’s quite right on this one.
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When I hurt someone else I am not hurting myself.
I don’t think you’ll ever understand this one. Why are you on a psychedelic forum?
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This is all demonstrably false,
No, it isn’t.
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especially the part about making things better,
My attention span was lost by this part. Congratulations.
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because there is no such thing as better.
Yes there is.
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I mean you being everything leads to nihilism in the end,
This is subjective. Even Neitzsche hated nihilism.
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nothing matters.
. Like I said, you try to suck the fun out of everything, but you’re totally not a sociopath.
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Thanatos10 said:
In fact why not kill yourself so you don’t have to worry about making things better?
the fun-suck vacuum cleaner strikes again.
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Thanatos10 said:
I mean there would be no need to if everything is gone and it’s way easier than struggling.
well, i told everybody you have sociopathic tendencies, and I appreciate you confirming this.
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It would honestly take too long to point out everything wrong with this video.
Give it a try. Ill shoot you down with cold calculated logic and science every step of the way.
To assante.
I think your video was wordy. But I cant really disagree with it. I appreciate your attempt to put positive energy back into the universe.
I don't think insisting otherwise makes my points any less valid, and I realize that is the pot calling the kettle black.
That said the video raises too many questions and contradictions for me rather than answering anything. I still stand by my point about good, since from what I can tell with history it tends to mean whatever people want it to mean. That's why I questioned the "good" aspect.
Other questions that came to mind were: If you are me then why tell me this? Why do you forget everything and be reborn? How do you know you are reborn? Why is the point to become gods and if so then what's after that? Also why become gods? How can this be verified if you forget everything when you are reborn and how can you know there is a "soul" (Buddhism doesn't argue for it unlike Hinduism). Also if everyone is me then how can I care about what happens to me while someone else does not care what happens to them? Also why should one care and can one opt out of this reincarnation cycle? Lastly how can I be sure any of it is true?
That's just a handful but I have more questions beyond those which is why I cannot really believe such a claim. Also I still think it very much leads to nihilism in the same way solipsism does. It's not the first time I have heard people say this sort of thing but when I asked them about it further the answers didn't really tell me anything that made it clearer.
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