|
mi.ro.ku
Stranger
Registered: 04/13/19
Posts: 83
Last seen: 2 years, 6 months
|
Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad?
#26674120 - 05/16/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
I only have access to distilled water, deionized, and tap, and since the tap in my region has dangerous levels of heavy metals in addition to other nasty shit like fluoride, doesnt make sense to use it.
What is so bad with distilled water? is deionized as bad?
people on here have made pretty unconvincing arguments, citing it leaches nutrients... do dissolved solids in water (minerals or rock dust) really make a difference
(also i generally get my ratios correct enough that when i hydrate my grain, there is very little runoff which nutrients can be leached) So far, i have used both distilled and deionized without issues, for grain spawn, LC, and agar
but I am genuinely asking what if non-distilled/deionized water will make a considerable difference?
Thank you
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: mi.ro.ku] 1
#26674137 - 05/16/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
You already answered your question.
|
mi.ro.ku
Stranger
Registered: 04/13/19
Posts: 83
Last seen: 2 years, 6 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26675551 - 05/16/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bodhisatta said: You already answered your question.
Thank you i think so too lol ive just never went to bulk before with them so i was wondering...
|
Smartattack
C'mon man



Registered: 12/21/18
Posts: 3,775
Loc: A thought
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: mi.ro.ku] 1
#26675573 - 05/16/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
They way you talk about your water, I think you just gave away your location lol.
-------------------- * Smarts videos * Planet of the APES   I'm a fungal white supremacist.
|
mi.ro.ku
Stranger
Registered: 04/13/19
Posts: 83
Last seen: 2 years, 6 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: Smartattack]
#26675939 - 05/17/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Smartattack said: They way you talk about your water, I think you just gave away your location lol.
lol maybe   youd be surprised tho could be anywhere in the usa tbh ;p
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,333
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 3 minutes, 54 seconds
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: Smartattack]
#26675971 - 05/17/20 12:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Smartattack said: They way you talk about your water, I think you just gave away your location lol.
Yeah, sounds like the water tech at my water treatment plant! 
Dont use deionized water, could be harmful maybe. I know if a person drinks deionized water, they can get sick. Use only distilled/purified or artesian.
|
RebeccaBlack
Screw you guys, I'm going home



Registered: 07/15/11
Posts: 8,913
Last seen: 1 hour, 59 minutes
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26675979 - 05/17/20 12:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
100% H2O is not potable. You'll get sick from drinking only that. You dilute your body slowly and will end up with muscle cramps and eventually cardiac arrest.
There's no harm in drinking a glass. Or even a few. It's just not healthy on the long run.
|
poisoned
untitled



Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 1,738
Loc: Yurop
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26676009 - 05/17/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
TBF, with the amount of salts in an average person's diet, you'd be fine most likely.
|
RebeccaBlack
Screw you guys, I'm going home



Registered: 07/15/11
Posts: 8,913
Last seen: 1 hour, 59 minutes
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: poisoned]
#26676037 - 05/17/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
true
|
gizmo1



Registered: 06/15/11
Posts: 3,831
Loc: FREEDOM
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26676076 - 05/17/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Idk what you plan to use it for but I use distilled water for agar. Never caused any problems but agar comes out super clear.
-------------------- Trade List 🖕🖕🖕 6 hole Mini Monos
|
RebeccaBlack
Screw you guys, I'm going home



Registered: 07/15/11
Posts: 8,913
Last seen: 1 hour, 59 minutes
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: gizmo1]
#26676103 - 05/17/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, it's in no way harmful. It's like D2O (deuterated water, heavy water). It is safe to drink a glass of. You can heat plants watered with it, but you will get sick eventually.
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,333
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 3 minutes, 54 seconds
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26676132 - 05/17/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Its cool seeing ya in Mush Cult Daijo 
Ive heard of people using pond water. Is ir safe thou? Does PCing pond water make it the same as distilled water?
|
RebeccaBlack
Screw you guys, I'm going home



Registered: 07/15/11
Posts: 8,913
Last seen: 1 hour, 59 minutes
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26676135 - 05/17/20 02:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
I'm bored during quarantine and I've started cooking more. I'd like to grow fresh mushroom, not psychedelic. The delicious kind.
|
mi.ro.ku
Stranger
Registered: 04/13/19
Posts: 83
Last seen: 2 years, 6 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: gizmo1]
#26676440 - 05/17/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
gizmo1 said: Idk what you plan to use it for but I use distilled water for agar. Never caused any problems but agar comes out super clear.
ive used it for everything so far, Agar, LC, Grain spawn hydration successfully. I just used for bulk sub too few days ago and so far looks good
|
mi.ro.ku
Stranger
Registered: 04/13/19
Posts: 83
Last seen: 2 years, 6 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26676446 - 05/17/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Daijo said: 100% H2O is not potable. You'll get sick from drinking only that. You dilute your body slowly and will end up with muscle cramps and eventually cardiac arrest.
There's no harm in drinking a glass. Or even a few. It's just not healthy on the long run.
not sure what not potable means...but my logic was that since youre always adding the water to nutrient dense sources( turbinado lc, gypsum graain spawn, nutrient agar, gypsum coir, ect) as long as you get the ratios good enough so that there is perfect hydration and very little runoff water, nothing is being leached...
i dont necessarily agree about RO/deionized leaching from the body either . all ive been drinking for years, tho i rarely drink it as just water unless from a copper vessel which already will change its charge and dissolved solids, but otherwise i also always add lime or use it to make tea/decoctions, so its no longer just 100%h20, its h20 with tons of dissolved nutrients
Edited by mi.ro.ku (05/17/20 08:16 AM)
|
Mugnath


Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 733
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 8 months, 16 days
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: mi.ro.ku]
#26676509 - 05/17/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Edit: Nevermind, I was making a point about acidosis until I finished reading what you said about Lime.
Edited by Mugnath (05/17/20 09:06 AM)
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: mi.ro.ku]
#26676524 - 05/17/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mi.ro.ku said:
Quote:
Smartattack said: They way you talk about your water, I think you just gave away your location lol.
lol maybe   youd be surprised tho could be anywhere in the usa tbh ;p
Or flint
|
DharmaForKarma
Tub monkey


Registered: 04/24/20
Posts: 565
Last seen: 1 day, 11 hours
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26676567 - 05/17/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
To pile on to the derailment of this thread, here's a list of cities with water contaminated by PFAS, "the forever chemical." A quick search finds tens of millions of Americans are exposed to high levels of a variety of unsafe chemicals in their tap water. Flint isn't even in most Top 10's anymore.
https://www.ewg.org/research/national-pfas-testing/
|
Smartattack
C'mon man



Registered: 12/21/18
Posts: 3,775
Loc: A thought
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: DharmaForKarma] 1
#26676597 - 05/17/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Definitely super happy to live in a rural area with a deep never ending well of water better than I can buy. Seemingly small thing but I'd be pissed to go back to town bullshit.
-------------------- * Smarts videos * Planet of the APES   I'm a fungal white supremacist.
|
rezasmith
Stranger
Registered: 01/27/20
Posts: 92
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: DharmaForKarma]
#26676599 - 05/17/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
So just to confirm , if i only access to Deionized and tap , which one i use?
|
Sockadin



Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: rezasmith]
#26676604 - 05/17/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Use tap water. Don't over complicate things. Tap water is fine for mushrooms. Even if their are heavy metals and shit. It's not like your going to get enough mushrooms to kill you in the short term. You get way more poison from your food and the sun.
|
rezasmith
Stranger
Registered: 01/27/20
Posts: 92
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: Sockadin]
#26676612 - 05/17/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sockadin said: Use tap water. Don't over complicate things. Tap water is fine for mushrooms. Even if their are heavy metals and shit. It's not like your going to get enough mushrooms to kill you in the short term. You get way more poison from your food and the sun.
my concern is mostly about agar dishes , today i was just looking at the 8 new plate i made and i let it sit for 2 days to spot if there is any contam
and i spot 4 out of 8 plates to be contaminated - and its no pour so i don't know what im doing wrong , i have 2 layers of micropore on top of the lid too
could it be because of stacking in pressure cooker? i stack them like 4*2 and 4 got contaminated so could that be the problem?
|
gizmo1



Registered: 06/15/11
Posts: 3,831
Loc: FREEDOM
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: rezasmith]
#26676621 - 05/17/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
rezasmith said:
Quote:
Sockadin said: Use tap water. Don't over complicate things. Tap water is fine for mushrooms. Even if their are heavy metals and shit. It's not like your going to get enough mushrooms to kill you in the short term. You get way more poison from your food and the sun.
my concern is mostly about agar dishes , today i was just looking at the 8 new plate i made and i let it sit for 2 days to spot if there is any contam
and i spot 4 out of 8 plates to be contaminated - and its no pour so i don't know what im doing wrong , i have 2 layers of micropore on top of the lid too
could it be because of stacking in pressure cooker? i stack them like 4*2 and 4 got contaminated so could that be the problem?
Tap water isn't your problem. If they are unopened I'd blame your filter or lids. Maybe sterilization cycle but I don't think so. Are you venting pc? What kind of container are you using for no pours.
-------------------- Trade List 🖕🖕🖕 6 hole Mini Monos
Edited by gizmo1 (05/17/20 10:37 AM)
|
Sockadin



Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: gizmo1]
#26676626 - 05/17/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Definitely not tap water. I use it all the time and the only time I get a contam on a plate is after I have opened it because my sterile technique sucks. Which is rare.
Hard water and heavy metals don't contaminate pour or no pour. Like Gizmo said are you venting PC? Try holygrail containers if you are using mini rounds.
|
rezasmith
Stranger
Registered: 01/27/20
Posts: 92
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: gizmo1]
#26676627 - 05/17/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
gizmo1 said:
Quote:
rezasmith said:
Quote:
Sockadin said: Use tap water. Don't over complicate things. Tap water is fine for mushrooms. Even if their are heavy metals and shit. It's not like your going to get enough mushrooms to kill you in the short term. You get way more poison from your food and the sun.
my concern is mostly about agar dishes , today i was just looking at the 8 new plate i made and i let it sit for 2 days to spot if there is any contam
and i spot 4 out of 8 plates to be contaminated - and its no pour so i don't know what im doing wrong , i have 2 layers of micropore on top of the lid too
could it be because of stacking in pressure cooker? i stack them like 4*2 and 4 got contaminated so could that be the problem?
Tap water isn't your problem. If they are unopened I'd blame your filter or lids. Maybe sterilization cycle but I don't think so. Are you venting pc? What kind of container are you using for no pours.
nope , these are pretty airtight , i'm just wondering why all havent contammed(and its all bacterial)
this is one of the plates i did transfer from : (310ml pp5 container)

|
Sockadin



Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: rezasmith]
#26676628 - 05/17/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
I blame the scalpel if you have opened them and they contaminated.
|
rezasmith
Stranger
Registered: 01/27/20
Posts: 92
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: Sockadin]
#26676630 - 05/17/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sockadin said: I blame the scalpel if you have opened them and they contaminated.
problem is the ones i didn't even open got contammed , not too much but i spot a tiny dot of bacteria in almost all 4
|
rezasmith
Stranger
Registered: 01/27/20
Posts: 92
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: Sockadin]
#26676632 - 05/17/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sockadin said: Definitely not tap water. I use it all the time and the only time I get a contam on a plate is after I have opened it because my sterile technique sucks. Which is rare.
Hard water and heavy metals don't contaminate pour or no pour. Like Gizmo said are you venting PC? Try holygrail containers if you are using mini rounds.
hmm how long should i vent? i let the water boil and close the PC , let it whistle and then put the weight on and when it whistle again i let it for 25min
Edited by rezasmith (05/17/20 10:45 AM)
|
gizmo1



Registered: 06/15/11
Posts: 3,831
Loc: FREEDOM
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: rezasmith]
#26676634 - 05/17/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
rezasmith said:
Quote:
gizmo1 said:
Quote:
rezasmith said:
Quote:
Sockadin said: Use tap water. Don't over complicate things. Tap water is fine for mushrooms. Even if their are heavy metals and shit. It's not like your going to get enough mushrooms to kill you in the short term. You get way more poison from your food and the sun.
my concern is mostly about agar dishes , today i was just looking at the 8 new plate i made and i let it sit for 2 days to spot if there is any contam
and i spot 4 out of 8 plates to be contaminated - and its no pour so i don't know what im doing wrong , i have 2 layers of micropore on top of the lid too
could it be because of stacking in pressure cooker? i stack them like 4*2 and 4 got contaminated so could that be the problem?
Tap water isn't your problem. If they are unopened I'd blame your filter or lids. Maybe sterilization cycle but I don't think so. Are you venting pc? What kind of container are you using for no pours.
nope , these are pretty airtight , i'm just wondering why all havent contammed(and its all bacterial)
this is one of the plates i did transfer from : (310ml pp5 container)


If it's bacteria could be your sterilization cycle. Not sure what you mean by airtight but I was talking about venting the pressure cooker before sterilization. If you haven't been you need to vent steam for atleast a full 10 minutes before putting the rocker weight on the pressure cooker. Could very well be your problem. I guess it's not polite to detail someone elses thread though. If you would like more help you can either start a thread or message me and I will try to help you figure it out if this hasn't helped you already.
-------------------- Trade List 🖕🖕🖕 6 hole Mini Monos
|
natedawgnow
Rocky mountain hood rat



Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 8,939
Loc: ation
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: gizmo1]
#26676749 - 05/17/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Drinking distilled water is fine. The second it hits the glass/your stomach it reaches equilibrium with molecules that are present there. It in no way leeches nutes, I don't give 2 shits about the "evidence" to the contrary.
If you have food in your stomach, and then drink distilled water, the nutes in the food get absorbed by the water and then you digest the water. Please, explain to me how those nutes are lost when you digest the water anyway?
The myths behind distilled water are ridiculous. If you're that worried put a teaspoon of baking soda into a gallon of distilled water and voila, your water now has ions.
--------------------
|
Sockadin



Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26676765 - 05/17/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
But, but ... The Kangen water people are gonna come after you Nate!
Don't fuck with their triangle.
|
poisoned
untitled



Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 1,738
Loc: Yurop
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: Smartattack]
#26676850 - 05/17/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Smartattack said: Definitely super happy to live in a rural area with a deep never ending well of water better than I can buy. Seemingly small thing but I'd be pissed to go back to town bullshit.
so much. Having quality water coming out your tap is basically a mastercard commercial.
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26677125 - 05/17/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
natedawgnow said: Drinking distilled water is fine. The second it hits the glass/your stomach it reaches equilibrium with molecules that are present there. It in no way leeches nutes, I don't give 2 shits about the "evidence" to the contrary.
If you have food in your stomach, and then drink distilled water, the nutes in the food get absorbed by the water and then you digest the water. Please, explain to me how those nutes are lost when you digest the water anyway?
The myths behind distilled water are ridiculous. If you're that worried put a teaspoon of baking soda into a gallon of distilled water and voila, your water now has ions.
Even normal water can dilute you down to the point of death Distilled and or deionized would just do it faster. And in general isn't good to drink.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
You don't lose nutes or ions. You lose osmotic balance
|
RebeccaBlack
Screw you guys, I'm going home



Registered: 07/15/11
Posts: 8,913
Last seen: 1 hour, 59 minutes
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26677138 - 05/17/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
You guys make me realize that it's true. If you have salt in your diet, distilled water doesn't matter at all.
|
panne cyanne
albino queen


Registered: 04/15/20
Posts: 145
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26677308 - 05/17/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
id just buy a brita filter and declare victory.
|
natedawgnow
Rocky mountain hood rat



Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 8,939
Loc: ation
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26677374 - 05/17/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Except that water intoxication can and will happen with any kind of water 
Evidence for it happening faster with distilled water?
--------------------
|
Mugnath


Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 733
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 8 months, 16 days
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26677439 - 05/17/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
natedawgnow said: Except that water intoxication can and will happen with any kind of water 
Evidence for it happening faster with distilled water?
"Water intoxication is a matter of electrolytic dilution. Water is not literally a toxin, it acts passively in that, in excess it will dilute the necessary minerals needed in the body. Theoretically if you added the necessary supplements (salt, magnesium, etc) to your water, you could drink much more that of distilled water without effect." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AWater_intoxication
They both will cause water intoxication, without the benefit of added electrolytes in non distilled water however, you will reach an imbalance sooner when consuming water containing zero electrolytes.
Edited by Mugnath (05/17/20 06:38 PM)
|
natedawgnow
Rocky mountain hood rat



Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 8,939
Loc: ation
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: Mugnath]
#26677705 - 05/17/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
That MAY be true if you don't eat any foods that contain any salts. Literally the second the water hits your stomach, it reaches equilibrium with the conditions therein.
Still not buying it
--------------------
|
natedawgnow
Rocky mountain hood rat



Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 8,939
Loc: ation
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26677713 - 05/17/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Where do people think water goes after drinking it?
It mixes with stomach contents, goes to small intestines where it's absorbed. If I ground up a hamburger and soaked it in distilled water, is it still distilled water or has it absorbed shit from the burger? Same shit is happening in your stomach.
Distilled water "science" is a farce.
--------------------
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26677714 - 05/17/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
How does it reach equilibrium without sequestering ions due to concentration gradient made by it originally having none.
Look man you talked about the leeching being bs and while it's not the cause of death it is also not really BS.
The cause of death is drinking so much water as to throw off your own balance. It's a closed system unless you take a piss. Dilution not leeching.
It's fine for your grow or to have a glass. But why it costs a lot more than anything else that's made for drinking besides figi water
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26677721 - 05/17/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
If you put a corned beef brisket into a bucket of distilled, tap, and salt water. You'll end up with three different brine content briskets the next day.
If you grind up Hamburger put it in distilled and tap. Then take the burger stuff out the next day and eat it. The one soaked in distilled water would be less salty.
|
natedawgnow
Rocky mountain hood rat



Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 8,939
Loc: ation
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26677752 - 05/17/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bodhisatta said: How does it reach equilibrium without sequestering ions due to concentration gradient made by it originally having none.
Look man you talked about the leeching being bs and while it's not the cause of death it is also not really BS.
The cause of death is drinking so much water as to throw off your own balance. It's a closed system unless you take a piss. Dilution not leeching.
It's fine for your grow or to have a glass. But why it costs a lot more than anything else that's made for drinking besides figi water
Where I am distilled water is the cheapest.
Also, equilibrium is a natural state reached by all reactants and products in a system. If I add water with less ions to a medium with more ions, the water will ionize until equilibrium between the 2 are reached. In osmotic action equilibrium is reached when the electrolyte concentration is the same on both sides of the membrane.
It is undeniable that water, immediately after drinking, will absorb, dissolve, and mix with whatever is in your stomach.
Quote:
bodhisatta said: If you put a corned beef brisket into a bucket of distilled, tap, and salt water. You'll end up with three different brine content briskets the next day.
If you grind up Hamburger put it in distilled and tap. Then take the burger stuff out the next day and eat it. The one soaked in distilled water would be less salty.
If the burger is less salty because the water absorbed the salt, which will happen because it has less ions than non di water, it doesn't matter because your body digests the water anyway so there is no loss of electrolytes or nutes to the system, if anything you made them more available because it's easier for your body to absorb nutrients from broths and uses less energy than solid food digestion
--------------------
Edited by natedawgnow (05/17/20 09:04 PM)
|
mi.ro.ku
Stranger
Registered: 04/13/19
Posts: 83
Last seen: 2 years, 6 months
|
Re: Is Distilled/ Deionized water actually bad? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26677963 - 05/18/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bodhisatta said: How does it reach equilibrium without sequestering ions due to concentration gradient made by it originally having none.
Look man you talked about the leeching being bs and while it's not the cause of death it is also not really BS.
The cause of death is drinking so much water as to throw off your own balance. It's a closed system unless you take a piss. Dilution not leeching.
It's fine for your grow or to have a glass. But why it costs a lot more than anything else that's made for drinking besides figi water
for me, distillers are pretty cheap in the long run if you only have access fluoridated heavy-metaled tap for drinking, and spring water ultimately much more expensive yearly and more wasteful with whats available to me
|
|