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shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet
    #26673980 - 05/16/20 02:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys,

I was thinking to set up some shoeboxes. I have some space in a drawer of my kitchen cabinet where I could fit 4 shoeboxes.

The thing is that the drawer is rather small like 25 inch x 25 inch x 10 inch (h). I am worrying about two things:

1) Can there be a problem with FAE, as the space is rather limited. The drawer closes pretty well so there will only be limited fresh air coming in from outside.

2) For lighting I wanted to install those LED strips. I am worrying that they are too close to the shoeboxes and maybe somehow drying them out or heating them up.

Let me know what you think.


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: MuteUSO] * 1
    #26673990 - 05/16/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

definitely not ideal. Might work tho as long as your fruits are tiny


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: MuteUSO]
    #26673991 - 05/16/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think your main issue would be getting enough FAE. There’s not anywhere else u could put them? U just need a stall space that gets a decent amount of air


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: SFS96]
    #26673997 - 05/16/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

yeah stagnant air is bad


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26674029 - 05/16/20 02:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Damn. Is it really the size of the drawer that is the problem? I might have another cabinet, which is a bit bigger - like 2m high and half a meter wide and deep.

Regarding the small one talked about in OP - opening the drawer once or twice, or even leaving them open a bit during the day does not really help, right?


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: MuteUSO]
    #26674099 - 05/16/20 04:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

No its the lack of fresh air exchange and presence of stagnant air thats the problem

It might work, might have some minimal results... but why not just do stuff right?


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26674112 - 05/16/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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No its the lack of fresh air exchange and presence of stagnant air thats the problem

It might work, might have some minimal results... but why not just do stuff right?




It is just that I live in a pretty small city apartment and want to do this as economically (space-wise) as possible.

But, would it work if I keep the shoeboxes just out in the open in the living room? (I got like 45% humidity and about 71° F.


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: MuteUSO]
    #26674118 - 05/16/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, out in the open is the best. You can stack them and they won't take up almost any space. You also won't need any supplemental lightning.


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: poisoned]
    #26674157 - 05/16/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah that will work, especially if you put a grocery bag or something with holes in it over them, like bods shoebox tek


You dont NEED supplemental lighting but it definitely helps ime


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26674182 - 05/16/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ah I guess then I will just put them in a corner on the floor in the living room.

Since you mentioned lightning. I am in Scandinavia and my living room will now during the summer get only about 5 hours darkness during the night. Is this a problem?

Does outside temperature and humidity of the room matter at all for shoeboxes standing in the open room? Or is this just overthinking, and as long as I mist and control for enough FAE I will be fine?


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: MuteUSO]
    #26674213 - 05/16/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

5 hours of darkness is fine. Outside temperature and humidity don't matter much. You need to tune your shoeboxes for whatever conditions you have and that's it. Scandinavian summers are fine.


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26675976 - 05/17/20 12:31 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah that will work, especially if you put a grocery bag or something with holes in it over them, like bods shoebox tek


You dont NEED supplemental lighting but it definitely helps ime




Yeah, I agree with the significance of light. So that means I just put them somewhere in the corner where they do not get direct light and give them my artificial 12/12 light cycle.

The extra hours of light they get (see my previous post) are negligible because they are not direct and not strong enough?


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: MuteUSO]
    #26675989 - 05/17/20 12:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wont matter much for cubes


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26678091 - 05/18/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Just for clarification again. Is a closet always a bad idea or does it work when it is big enough?


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: MuteUSO] * 1
    #26678095 - 05/18/20 02:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I nice size walk in closet will work just fine. I like to keep the door open most of the time to let fresh air in. Even a small closer will do if u u keep the door opened up a bit:thumbup:


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: SFS96] * 1
    #26678155 - 05/18/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

But it also depends on your standards for "working" and your tolerance fo failure

Its kinda amazing how badly cubes want to grow even when you do everything wrong. But its more likely to not go well, and bad conditions almost garuntee low yields and poor fruits

Like if you lock humans up with no light and barely any air and dehydration and a calorie deficit. They might survive but they will be weird and unhealthy. Might even complete their reproductive cycle despite all the worst conditions


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Re: shoeboxes in drawer of kitchen cabinet [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26698539 - 05/27/20 04:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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:whathesaid:

But it also depends on your standards for "working" and your tolerance fo failure

Its kinda amazing how badly cubes want to grow even when you do everything wrong. But its more likely to not go well, and bad conditions almost garuntee low yields and poor fruits

Like if you lock humans up with no light and barely any air and dehydration and a calorie deficit. They might survive but they will be weird and unhealthy. Might even complete their reproductive cycle despite all the worst conditions




Yeah, that makes sense and is kind of what I am after here.

I have this closet which is about 1m x 1m x 2.5m (h). I can definitely just leave the door just slightly open. Would this equate the kind of locked up humans or would this equate to 'good' conditions where shrooms can thrive in?

The thing is that I believe I can keep the temperature up much better when they are in the closet, as opposed to standing around in my living room which is usually a bit cooler (just slightly under 70F).


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