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Re: What is Love? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26672798 - 05/15/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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What up Thanatos10. I was thinking about you today, how could I help you, because I understood your perspective, your problem if even for a little while



I am sorry you feel others aren't real Thanatos. I recommend you take mushrooms and find the way. It will be rough but it is worth it.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26672929 - 05/15/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

direct transmission mind to mind


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Psion]
    #26673481 - 05/15/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Tantrika - if your future wife really accepts you for what you are, she would accept you, past, present and future, scars of the past included. those scars are a part of what shaped you - so don't hide them, they are a part of what made you, you! a part of why she loves you!

I'd say keep to your dream and accept your past - and reject any naysayers and your own doubts. the past is past - so what if you made a mistake in the past? we all make mistakes. it's the here and now, the future you're forging that matters. you don't see people saying an old gnarly oak is hideous because it's got a few twisted branches or missing stubs, do you? no, we say it's Majestic, or Awe-inspiring. We look at rugged mountains for inspiration, to nature with its imperfections... and admire it, imperfections and all, because those imperfections pale in comparison to the grand beauty that they merely highlight.

You have nothing to fear from those scars. Your future wife would be seeing those scars every day anyways - hiding them in shame on such a big day would only emphasize that feeling of shame. stand proud, because you have nothing to be ashamed of anymore! It's a big day for anyone! :heart:

And Thanatos, i used to have a lot of fear about the afterlife before I tripped. not anymore. I used to be all about that logic and couldn't get people who worshiped god. after that first trip... i understand now. i still am a logical person by nature... but i realize that there really is more than one kind of knowledge. some things really are felt with the heart, not with the mind.

that said, does your family have any history of schizophrenia or psychosis? psychedelics might possibly be a bad idea if so for you, since it can hasten the inevitable psychotic break if you're already on the verge of breaking, usually by about a year. though i'm not sure if psychedelics are a danger for people who suffer from this kind of problem... id imagine it would be a boon if anything, helping to reconnect. seems more like it's arising from possible depression if anything, maybe a fear of the afterlife/unknown like i did, stuck in thought loops... things psychedelics are amazing at breaking you out of temporarily and giving you a fresh perspective on.

oh yes. and if solipsism is real, how the heck are we able to perform mind melds? we're actually able to connect two peoples minds and "send" information from one brain to another. you can't do that if there's only one mind!

besides, why are you so concerned about you being some brain in a jar somewhere when your brains in a bony encasement in a fleshy jar anyways? it's just a jar by another name anyways. you're a brain in a squishy jar by another name. there. you get your brain in a jar. we're all brains in a jar! now go play with the other brains in a jar and make friends already!




First order is that mind melds don’t exist and aren’t real. Also it still seems you don’t get it. Also psychedelics are just drugs with physiological effects people take to mean something, but they don’t break perspectives. People just believe they do just like those who think certain happenings are divine intervention when they aren’t.

I think the issue is more with anti natalism and to why one should live beyond the usual knee jerk reactions or biological impulses. The argument as far as I understand it is that one doesn’t have to live and endure life or find things to fill it in order to make it worthwhile. That as long as one lives suffering will find them and they will need to find things to fill life with just the make it bearable. That’s an interesting way to phrase it I personally think but there is some point to it. If the goal of life is to minimize suffering then suicide is the logical answer. We don’t have to maximize pleasure they argue since preventing birth means we need to worry about pleasure and suicide means that we don’t have to worry about future pleasure.

I mean from a logical point of view living doesn’t make any sense.

Ligotti essentially proves everyone else here wrong about life being worth it and being an adventure.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26673489 - 05/15/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: What is Love? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26673565 - 05/15/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i mean... we're all having fun here and having adventure and life's so worth it to us so essentially... we're proving that Ligotti's a complete idiot. :shrug:

you're treating life as something to endure, a chore. you can treat it like that, but we're finding life a game, something to look forward to every day. if life is a chore to you, you're doing life wrong.

and you're saying psychs dont break perspectives when science itself contradicts you:

Left is the brain connections of a person given a placebo and the right is someone on psychedelics. as you can see, it causes a massive amount of new connections to form, constantly changing. this is one of the reasons why scientists suspect they are so powerful at breaking depression and anxiety - it's kind of hard to get stuck in a circle of negative thoughts when you can't maintain the circle anymore. once you break outside that loop, you start to see from a fresh perspective, and realize that "oh hey, maybe there's things i CAN do about my situation after all!" and suddenly things look rosier than before. this is especially true when the session is guided or the user has an idea of what they want to accomplish and how to get it, aka self-guided therapy, or a willingness to change.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110929074205.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180606093701.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171023101753.htm

and here are a few samples of how psychs can promote healing, and change peoples perspectives, such as an increased openness to new experiences - something that tends to go down as one gets older, not up. they most certainly do change one's perspective. it's laughable for you to say they don't. i have firsthand experience with this. emperical evidence that they do indeed change perspectives, and here you are saying "NUH-UH!". i mean... you're having me rolling on the floor here. you have no experience at this. it's like a toddler coming up to a surgeon and offering advice on how to give open heart surgery. just trust me on this - psychedelics most definitely do change perspectives.

Not that i blame you for thinking otherwise - i used to think "eh, it's just some drug that makes you feel loopy and see weird things, but at least it's non-addictive, maybe i'll try it one day for fun...if there's any drugs i'd try i'd do that one". 20 years later i finally did out of desperation because decades of hearing about it's promising effects on things like depression and i was starting to feel a bit desperate, but i couldn't articulate exactly why. i just felt like i was missing something in my life, like my soul was slowly drying up. finally tried shrooms and WHAM. felt like i was immersed in a river of life and brought back from the brink. finally, i realized what i had been missing all those years and how perilously close to the edge i really was! I went in for fun visuals, i left with...well, not many visuals at all but an experience that changed my life dramatically for the better! And there was not a single "fake" thing about it. it was like... connecting to a deeper part of myself, the part you feel in dreams and your hopes for the future.

oh, and here's an article on mind melds for fun:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130827122713.htm

not much to look at yet, but hey, it's still a new thing. :P


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Psion] * 1
    #26673568 - 05/15/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Q: What is love?
A: Baby don't hurt me.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Z33R01]
    #26673693 - 05/15/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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i have firsthand experience with this. emperical evidence that they do indeed change perspectives, and here you are saying "NUH-UH!". i mean... you're having me rolling on the floor here. you have no experience at this. it's like a toddler coming up to a surgeon and offering advice on how to give open heart surgery. just trust me on this - psychedelics most definitely do change perspectives.




And I have firsthand experience that they don't.

Also none of those sources hint at a mind meld, so it's still wrong and not real. Also re read your link. I also don't know how reputable Science Daily is in regards to studies, maybe try something else. The science doesn't contradict it supports me to an extent.

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i mean... we're all having fun here and having adventure and life's so worth it to us so essentially... we're proving that Ligotti's a complete idiot. :shrug:

you're treating life as something to endure, a chore. you can treat it like that, but we're finding life a game, something to look forward to every day. if life is a chore to you, you're doing life wrong.




Completely missed the point of my post on anti natalism.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26673716 - 05/15/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

and what is your firsthand experience that htey dont, pray tell? because we've yet to hear of any firsthand experience from you on this. and what's wrong with my link on changing perspectives? you say to reread my link yet provide no argument on why this is wrong. as for how reputable it is... they literally just post summaries of studies, so they're pretty reputable.

and you keep thinking there's some "goal in life". we keep telling you, over and over, that there is no goal in life except the ones you create. repeat after me: you create the goals. if your goal in life is to minimize suffering, then yes, suicide may make logical sense to you, because there is no suffering in death. probably. unless there's an afterlife in which case you might be fucked. if your goal in life is to have fun, then suicide is most definitely NOT the logical conclusion to do, because suicide does not lead to the maximum amount of fun - it leads to the absolute minimum amount of sensory input.

and that later article talks about one person moving another persons hand using their intent to move their hand, and the second person registered it as an involuntary hand movement. obviously that's not much of a mind meld, but it's still a connecting of two minds, however tenuous. baby steps and all that.

you're just blatantly ignoring all the evidence here so you can hide behind your safety net of solipsism just so you can hide from the true problem of loneliness and depression you really have at this point.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Psion]
    #26673837 - 05/15/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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and what is your firsthand experience that htey dont, pray tell? because we've yet to hear of any firsthand experience from you on this. and what's wrong with my link on changing perspectives? you say to reread my link yet provide no argument on why this is wrong. as for how reputable it is... they literally just post summaries of studies, so they're pretty reputable.

and you keep thinking there's some "goal in life". we keep telling you, over and over, that there is no goal in life except the ones you create. repeat after me: you create the goals. if your goal in life is to minimize suffering, then yes, suicide may make logical sense to you, because there is no suffering in death. probably. unless there's an afterlife in which case you might be fucked. if your goal in life is to have fun, then suicide is most definitely NOT the logical conclusion to do, because suicide does not lead to the maximum amount of fun - it leads to the absolute minimum amount of sensory input.

and that later article talks about one person moving another persons hand using their intent to move their hand, and the second person registered it as an involuntary hand movement. obviously that's not much of a mind meld, but it's still a connecting of two minds, however tenuous. baby steps and all that.

you're just blatantly ignoring all the evidence here so you can hide behind your safety net of solipsism just so you can hide from the true problem of loneliness and depression you really have at this point.




It’s not mind meld it’s pretty much the same principle that makes a game controller move a character. It said you can’t read thoughts and you make someone do something against their will. It’s not a mind meld that’s why I said to read the links. It’s not truly connecting minds. Even then it wouldn’t disprove solipsism because again it could all still just be a creation of your mind.

Also you are still missing the point in regards to my post about anti natalism.

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I think the issue is more with anti natalism and to why one should live beyond the usual knee jerk reactions or biological impulses. The argument as far as I understand it is that one doesn’t have to live and endure life or find things to fill it in order to make it worthwhile. That as long as one lives suffering will find them and they will need to find things to fill life with just the make it bearable. That’s an interesting way to phrase it I personally think but there is some point to it. If the goal of life is to minimize suffering then suicide is the logical answer. We don’t have to maximize pleasure they argue since preventing birth means we need to worry about pleasure and suicide means that we don’t have to worry about future pleasure.




That’s why I said Ligotti proves you wrong. The life as an adventure isn’t really you thinking that it’s a survival trick humans have. Being alive quite literally makes no sense. One has to make life worth it just to bear it and suffering happens whether you want it or not. With death you don’t have to concern yourself about fun, joy, meaning, pain, anything. It’s not about a goal. Suicide removes the issue of goals and the need to fulfill them.

Honestly anyone who has a computer and posts on an Internet forum forfeits their right to call life an adventure. Such a remark is not only naive but grossly privileged, I’d bet if you didn’t live in modern times your tune would change and you’d see past your bias just like he mentions.

Truly only an idiot could consider life worthwhile or an adventure. Your enjoyment literally comes at the expense of something else: whether that is art, music, computers, movies, anything really. To live is to do so at the expense of something else. It’s why the planet is being ravaged to sate our desire for meaning and entertainment. Life truly is a mistake.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26673849 - 05/15/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ligotti isn’t here.

There is much more to mind than you know, but you have to journey into it alone.  No one can go with you.  If you don’t discover that dimension to yourself, you will forever be a plebeian missing out on the mystical experience that is life itself.

Say what you will, but you really are like a fool looking for water, while next to a river.

Shroomery has all the signs to point the way,  if your smart enough.  That’s for sure.

Even without shroomery, it’s there for the taking.

But if you seek the truth outside yourself, your bound to keep wandering forever.  And that sounds like it could be a real type of hell to me.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26673868 - 05/16/20 12:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

lol, you talk about how the planet is ravaged by our desire for meaning and entertainment. but what about the desires of any life? even the desires of plants comes at the expense of the planet - they tear into the soil, extract minerals from it, break down rocks with their roots, hold down dunes and slowly change the landscape.

whats that? that's not what you meant? but you see - not all desires have negative consequences. and yes, our desires come at the cost of other lives - so what of it? it's the circle of life brah. get over it. when we die our bodies feed the plants and bacteria, and the circle continues. you act like we're the end of the chain but we're still part of the circle. we're big movers but we still can be preyed upon by diseases - we still can be eaten by big, hungry kitties. we're still plant mulch at the end of our lives.

and in case you didn't realize... i'm old enough to have lived BEFORE home computers and the internet were a thing in my childhood. so don't talk to be about privileges. i grew up in a household so poor i had to build my own toys from scratch. i learned how to cook (actual cooking on the stove) when i was 8. i learned the basics of sewing, carpentry, and general craftmanship before i was a teenager. i grew up on books, not internet and video games.

the planet isn't ravaged due to our desires. it's ravaged because people are out of harmony with the planet. in other words - they don't love their planet and environment enough. they go "what's the point?" and think only of themselves. sound a bit familiar?

it should.

because it's a lot like the drivel you keep throwing at us.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Psion] * 3
    #26673904 - 05/16/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

A spoiled kid, dishonest and playing pretend for so long he’s scared himself silly.

Time to call it what it is.

The epitome of someone who has no richness or meaning in their life, sickly, full of shame and fear, living only for himself.

And projecting their ignorance as if it is some secret hard earned wisdom that they know about the self, the world, and reality.

Times running out Thanatos.  You will get sick and die.  What you do with the time you’ve taken for granted, is up to you.

There’s a dozen a dime like this, Just know you are transparent like water.  Internet anonymity ain’t that good.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26673932 - 05/16/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Beyond salvation  :badtrip:  :youcaughtme:

Pray for the lord to break his defenses :loljesus:


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Re: What is Love? [Re: InnerWisdom] * 2
    #26673947 - 05/16/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Mushroom forum...doesn’t even know what they’re capable of....but thinks he “knows”... call me an elitist if you want, But....
we are on the  shroomery after all...

:mypoorbrain:


So dumb/ignorant, like a prisoner in Plato’s allegory of the Cave.



  This is the real Thanatos, in case any one was wondering.  :loldongs:  shoulda known it sooner :rolleyes:

>>> :keyboardwarrior:

Just a troll.  Needs a lot more than intro to philosophy to help this sick pup .


May you be free one day Thanny.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26674159 - 05/16/20 04:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Ligotti essentially proves everyone else here wrong about life being worth it and being an adventure.




How was that your take-away?
Per the review, he is an anti-natalist but does not advocate suicide
he sees reason the human race should stop reproducing, but does not argue the perpetual suffering can be cured by suicide

in emphasizing his work, you seem to be finally agreeing with my 'point' vis-à-vis codependent arising and Nature that was made 20ish pages ago

to reiterate my point as maybe you have now developed the lens to comprehend it

nothing, self nor outside world, can be shown to have an inherent existence
no one can say "life is worthwhile" because life is empty; life is as the perceiver chooses it to be
which means that the perceiver can make life worthwhile

while agreeing with the closing point he reaches that a non-suicidal depression can provide a human utility when decided to experience it as such
still disagree with Ligotti's starting point: "everything in existence is malignantly useless."
as this is a judgement call -- everything in existence is simply empty; utility or lack of utility exists only with regards to perceptual judgements, as he manages to express by the end with regards to not needing to pull oneself out of depression if not desiring to
to assert that everything is inherently useless is to judge that the perceiver is the arbiter of utility



all life is suffering; if the heron did not eat the bunny the heron would suffer hunger until its physiological processes were either provided with another source of energy or decayed themselves into entropic failure

of course, your failure to answer my inquiries with regards to whether you want out of these systems
and instead focused on how the author you have chosen to now support "proves everyone else [in this thread] wrong"
it has become clear that you are doing all this for ego fanning and deception, rather than actually seeking advice

you don't want to know what love is -- you want to convince everyone else that since you don't know what it is no one else knows what it is
and you keep failing spectacularly :shrug:

this thread is full of beautiful people providing genuine outreach to you in your suffering -- people who know and practice what love is and whose lives are being enriched by our interactions and study of each others insights as we try to uplift you


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Thanatos10] * 2
    #26674168 - 05/16/20 05:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Truly only an idiot could consider life worthwhile or an adventure. Your enjoyment literally comes at the expense of something else: whether that is art, music, computers, movies, anything really. To live is to do so at the expense of something else. It’s why the planet is being ravaged to sate our desire for meaning and entertainment. Life truly is a mistake.




Life will go on without the human race.

If Life is a mistake, then your deepest desire must actually be to see humans ravage this planet into a ball of dust so that we can produce no more meaning here.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26674194 - 05/16/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I am declaring this a stalemate situation with the opposing force. Let us retreat and make peace  :sunny:  :bliss:


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26674341 - 05/16/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Ligotti essentially proves everyone else here wrong about life being worth it and being an adventure.




How was that your take-away?
Per the review, he is an anti-natalist but does not advocate suicide
he sees reason the human race should stop reproducing, but does not argue the perpetual suffering can be cured by suicide

in emphasizing his work, you seem to be finally agreeing with my 'point' vis-à-vis codependent arising and Nature that was made 20ish pages ago

to reiterate my point as maybe you have now developed the lens to comprehend it

nothing, self nor outside world, can be shown to have an inherent existence
no one can say "life is worthwhile" because life is empty; life is as the perceiver chooses it to be
which means that the perceiver can make life worthwhile

while agreeing with the closing point he reaches that a non-suicidal depression can provide a human utility when decided to experience it as such
still disagree with Ligotti's starting point: "everything in existence is malignantly useless."
as this is a judgement call -- everything in existence is simply empty; utility or lack of utility exists only with regards to perceptual judgements, as he manages to express by the end with regards to not needing to pull oneself out of depression if not desiring to
to assert that everything is inherently useless is to judge that the perceiver is the arbiter of utility



all life is suffering; if the heron did not eat the bunny the heron would suffer hunger until its physiological processes were either provided with another source of energy or decayed themselves into entropic failure

of course, your failure to answer my inquiries with regards to whether you want out of these systems
and instead focused on how the author you have chosen to now support "proves everyone else [in this thread] wrong"
it has become clear that you are doing all this for ego fanning and deception, rather than actually seeking advice

you don't want to know what love is -- you want to convince everyone else that since you don't know what it is no one else knows what it is
and you keep failing spectacularly :shrug:

this thread is full of beautiful people providing genuine outreach to you in your suffering -- people who know and practice what love is and whose lives are being enriched by our interactions and study of each others insights as we try to uplift you




This thread is fully of people who don’t get it. You don’t even get the main fear I have with solipsism which is finding out that I am all there is and nothing else is real. It’s not about the after, because that assumes an afterlife of some sort. What I am talking about is the possibility of spending the rest of my life alone and without anyone else. That’s why it’s so scary.

Your insights are still tainted by privilege hence why I said that those who find life worth living as too privileged to be able to comment on it. It doesn’t matter that nature from an objective sense is neutral, because it’s not really an agent with a mind of a sort. We are talking about living itself. That there isn’t a good reason to go on over suicide. You would essentially have to be a psychopath to choose life since you wouldn’t care what happens to everything around you that is the cost of you living.

I do want to see the world end but not for anti natalism. Ever since I was a kid I wanted to see that moment that all life would be extinguished.

Psi your words are still based in privilege again. Like I said you live in modernity, your words don’t matter. No one who benefits from modern conveniences can really have a valid opinion about the worth of life.

A while ago I heard a “wise man” say that if it’s about being functional, happy, joyful, fulfilled, etc then it isn’t the truth. That’s what it sounds like here, people who don’t see the truth and advocating what is function or useful or what will make you happy. Those things are not the truth.

I would have liked to live a life full of meaning and happiness like before all this. I had goals and wants and dreams and even a few friends. I wanted that to last, truly. I knew what I wanted and what I had to do for it and I didn’t really mind other peoples views too much. But the more I read the more I learned the more I saw that happiness is ignorance and turning away from the truth of reality and what we are doing. It became harder to justify my goals or being happy with everything I knew. It’s kind of funny how they say with intelligence comes depression or sadness and I guess they were right.

People tend to dodge uncomfortable claims or truths by labeling others as mentally ill or crazy when really such folks have peeled back the rose colored view everyone else has.


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26674348 - 05/16/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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This thread is fully of people who don’t get it. You don’t even get the main fear I have with solipsism which is finding out that I am all there is and nothing else is real. It’s not about the after, because that assumes an afterlife of some sort. What I am talking about is the possibility of spending the rest of my life alone and without anyone else. That’s why it’s so scary.
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And have told you because you fear this, you have made it active in your life
which you ignore, because it implicates your responsibility and your need to change

You are talking about the possibility of having impossible experiences within the world view you present,
and then saying that people don't understand

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Your insights are still tainted by privilege hence why I said that those who find life worth living as too privileged to be able to comment on it. It doesn’t matter that nature from an objective sense is neutral, because it’s not really an agent with a mind of a sort. We are talking about living itself. That there isn’t a good reason to go on over suicide. You would essentially have to be a psychopath to choose life since you wouldn’t care what happens to everything around you that is the cost of you living.
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You seem unable to comprehend how privileged you are, so you attempt to project that on to other people through a system you also barely comprehend

You have quoted content that says that it is alright to go on living despite total depression and disillusion with everything; that it is fine to just be in depression
and you are conflating that your own biased view that everyone should eliminate themselves and you will do it last because you want to watch it first

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Thanatos10 said:
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I do want to see the world end but not for anti natalism. Ever since I was a kid I wanted to see that moment that all life would be extinguished.
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You have to be a psychopath to want to see all life extinguished.

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Thanatos10 said:
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People tend to dodge uncomfortable claims or truths by labeling others as mentally ill or crazy when really such folks have peeled back the rose colored view everyone else has.




You attempt to dodge every claim or truth you find uncomfortable by labeling others as not able to understand
when they understand better than you do, but it would take humility for you to recognize that

:shrug:

you peeled back your rose colored lenses and replaced them with blues
the rest of us are telling you to come back to the middle ground of clear lenses
but you are insisting anything that's not blue is rose coloured


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Re: What is Love? [Re: Tantrika] * 6
    #26674407 - 05/16/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm beginning to think this has gone on long enough. Hit this post with a few +1's if you think this thread should be locked.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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