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Will this do anything??
    #26672247 - 05/15/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Took brf cakes after 1st flush n shredded em up n mixed with a manure compost n spread em out in these trays...kinda just to see what they'd do if anything...i can see the myc growing n spreading...but no action yet on pins...is this a wasted effort or will it eventually produce?...grow room temps n lighting 75degrees 12/12 lights




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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce] * 1
    #26672266 - 05/15/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It may do something, but maybe not something good :wink:

Really though if you want to do cakes to bulk you should not let them consolidate, and spawn them right away. Your cakes got into fruiting mode and spent energy creating mush and then found themselves violated by the white man and mixed up into something new. So they’re trying to colonize but may not have the energy and speed to beat the other things that want to live.

All you can do is wait and see. I hear a cheese grater is good for cakes because you can get a nice even spawn to mix in. When you have clumps like that it will take longer and the overall mix will be harder to level out. Level is best for bulk.

So is this a tray sitting in a tub full of perlite?  It kinda looks like it’s a big cake just sitting on perlite that’s soaking in water. Just a tip if that’s the case, perlite works the best when it’s moist but not waterlogged. If you have too much water you actually loose some of the surface area that the perlite creates by its porous structure


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26672279 - 05/15/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah the mix is is a plastic tray sittin on waterlogged perlite...ha...i did use a cheese grater but the big holed side of the grater so yeah its kinda chunky


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26673229 - 05/15/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think it’s just gonna die.

If you mixed the brf pieces in really well it would prob have colonized and made a couple mushrooms.


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26673273 - 05/15/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wait and see.
Ya never know......


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Mushit]
    #26685239 - 05/21/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I see a handful of pins n alotta hypal knots this morning...so sumthin is happening


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce] * 1
    #26685282 - 05/21/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Noiyce! :fuckyeah: :picdidnthappen:


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26685514 - 05/21/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ha...thanks...ill try n get a couple pics camera fone kinda sucks but hold up


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26685524 - 05/21/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I did this on my first grow and I gots a few big mushrooms but didn’t get an optimal flush like if you were using fresh cakes from the jar. Your main concern should be watching out for contams and making sure that there is sufficient moisture


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: jazzycnt]
    #26685554 - 05/21/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah doesn't look like its gonna be a normal flush...yet anyway...looks like a hit n miss kinda thing


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26685576 - 05/21/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



May be like finding Waldo but there's a pin in each pic...ha...i think within the next few days there will be several more I'm seeing knots everywhere



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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26685606 - 05/21/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Sweet. I’m surprised it’s lasted man considering it was post 1st flush spawn. Cool stough. End yield would be higher just fruited as cakes I think, but maybe a gangsta flush will come. And it’s cool to mess around anyway.


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26685651 - 05/21/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I agree on all that


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26689984 - 05/23/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



They're comin along


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26690005 - 05/23/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I dont claim to know exactly whats goin on here...im really a pot grower at heart this shroom thing has just been a side project for my own supply of shrooms...
I mixed these shredded up cakes with a manure compost i use for top dressing plants...actually prolly coulda not used it at all doesn't seem to be doing much in combination with the shred cakes...the pins are all poppin up from pieces of cake...i have some Amazonian spores and 2grain bags and an axtual bag of bulk substrate dirt lookin stuff on standby i plan on gettin into soon


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce] * 1
    #26690247 - 05/23/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Going from spores straight to grain is a coin flip as far as contamination. Spore prints and syringes aren’t totally sterile so there will basically always be some other stuff mixed in. Brf cakes seem to handle that really well for some reason. Bacterial syringes that would go gross on grains seem to colonize and fruit on those cakes.

Grains are different though. You really need to get a clean culture going on agar first and then go to grain from that. Or use the clean agar to make another form of inoculant.

If you just want to be able to eat an eighth now and then the pf tek is pretty simple and works well enough. If you want to get serious you have to use agar. Here is great reading. The flow chart helps explain some basic stuff.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26690419 - 05/23/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man...yeah i had read theyre diff n have actually always had good success with the cakes...just wanted to try a bulk tek next so ordered 2 5grain spawn bags and black cow manure casing mix...was gonna inject the spawn bags and when they colonize mix with casing mix and try bulk grow

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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26692171 - 05/24/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



Several lil mushrooms n more comin...any idea why so small tho?...is it bc theyre in a tray of mix that's only abt an inch thick??


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26692188 - 05/24/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Looks overhydrated due to the small size of the boomers. When a substrate is waterlogged, it will produce very few and small fruits in between. Let it dry a bit but keep it lightly moist and it may put out a better second flush.


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #26692204 - 05/24/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah overhydrated is a def possibility...ive been sprayin tf out of it bc i was afraid of it drying up where the mix is so thin...so back of with the spray bottle...gotcha


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26692214 - 05/24/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Not sure there will be a 2nd flush...b amazing if so...these started as cakes...flushed once n had to leave town for work...ziplocked cakes n fridged em for a month...got em outta fridge n shredded em mixed em with a little compost n spread mix out in this trays...n here we are


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26692293 - 05/24/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



Also in another tub had a lil experiment goin on...had some of the shredded up pieces of cake mixed with compost...couple pins here n there as well but any idea what this thin web covering the entire surface is?...sprayed it with water to highlight it so looks like dew on a cobweb


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    #26692376 - 05/24/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They’re so small I think because you’re basically fruiting from small chunks of half spent cakes. I don’t think they really colonized the compost and became a single organism. Just a guess though. And I hadn’t realized they sat in a fridge for a month after their first flush before you spawned them to this compost.

This is a recipe for disaster friend, but as you’ve shown...life will find a way. Sometimes ; )

It’s hard to tell what’s up with that second one. Sometimes you get thin myc or it could be the start of some kind of mold. That tub looks really wet if I’m seeing it right.


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26692393 - 05/24/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lol, could be an optical illusion but to my eyes too it looks like puddles all over the sub.


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26692443 - 05/24/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I agree and felt the same abt the size and not fully colonizing bc to me it seems like the chunks of cake are just doin what they woulda done anyway if left as a cake...it did spread onto the compost some but not much...idk tho on the bottom it's all connected...u can see the bottom of the spread out mix thru the trays their in bc theyre clear plastic n glass...have a look n tell me what u see n think...pins abt to bust out all over the bottom too...and yes the other tub with the webbing is wet i had just sprayed the surface to highlight thee web and prolly a wet in general over all...have holes in tub tho and open it abt 72times a day bc im bored and curious so FAE isnt an issue...ive done some reading on the Cobweb mold and this doesn't seem to fit yet...its bright white not greyish and its staying close to surface...so idk

N yes life will find a way i quote that often...plants prove it to me all the time in amazing ways

Yeah the fridge thing i work outta town n got called out early n was in the middle of the shroom grow...had just finished 1st flush n didn't know what to do with cakes



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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: Htaeh]
    #26692445 - 05/24/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

ha...nah it's wet but thats just the webbing with a fresh spray...like morning dew on the lawn


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Re: Will this do anything?? [Re: 1uvakindAce]
    #26692466 - 05/24/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The strain is PE btw


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