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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26671286 - 05/14/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm trying to run my AA for the first time but it didn't come with a trivet. Is that normal? The manual seems to list a trivet. Anyways... I just wanna run a load full of bags...

Can I put the bags directly on the rack on the bottom?

What do you  guys do?


Thanks!




Trivit all the way. Should have come with it. I don't exactly know what to suggest except maybe a plate set on four short jars to elevate it off the bottom of the PC.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
    #26671319 - 05/14/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It came with two racks. That's it. Guess I'm going to need to contact the seller. Shitty.

Looking at this thread by Ayeplus, it appears he does just set his bags directly on the bottom rack. I think I saw another thread from LotKid where he says he has done the same but I can't find that one.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26437511

It's either I figure this out and run with it or fuck around trying to do the 14 bags I just prepped in a god damn presto :lol:.

Only thing I'm worried about is a couple sharp edges on those rack things but ayeplus seems to put them directly on it :shrug:

I think I'm just gonna cram this thing full ayeplus style

:hehehe:

Even if I lose bags sitting on the rack it'll be less fucking around than using the presto at 6 bags per run :rofl:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26671335 - 05/14/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe lay some tin foil down to protect the bag? :shrug:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26671343 - 05/14/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Oh I'd call that 'rack' a trivit. That's all it comes with.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26671350 - 05/14/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Another good choice would be a stainless or silicone Dim Sum Steamer Rack :thumbup:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26671354 - 05/14/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The presto trivit works on top of it if you're nervous about bags touching the bottom but I wouldn't sweat it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
    #26671431 - 05/14/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe they call a trivet a different thig with AA I mean, it is sufficient for raising it off the bottom. But even in the manual they have a trivit thing that looks exactly like the presto one, listed...so I am thinking it was supposed to come with one.

This is the thread lotkid mentioned it in

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I get 9 full 1 gallon spawn bags into a 75x. On the metal rack that came with it. No insert. No trivet. No spacers. .02 micron bags. Pre sealed with a 5mm wide seal on each...




Alright if ayeplus and lotkid both do it with success I am at least gonna try it :shrug:. Be my luck that they started making these racks differently on the newer AA or something though cause they have 4 fairly sharp edges

or maybe the racks on the 75X are different. At least the one aye is using I know is identical from viewing his pics


ah well fuck it boys were going for it

:suckmydickbitches:



hahaaha I wrote this like an hour ago but couldn't find the graem I was looking for :facepalm: got distracted, so much god damn grain :lol:



thanks for all the info filthy and for the update on the trivet/rack thing :super:

so I am not missing any AA parts, that is good...thing looked so pristine when I opened the box I wouldn't believe they forgot something even inside there was even a little slip with a lot number in case they missed something

This thing is a beast..it's glorious

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26671466 - 05/14/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ya, just stick em right on it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26671480 - 05/14/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What do people do with the long tube in the x75 when loading it full of spawn bags?

edit:  Are you putting anything on top of the bags between them and the lid?

Edited by rickyswamps (05/14/20 09:34 PM)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26671525 - 05/14/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Some people remove the tube apparently, Some people just lay it over top of the bags or whatever

It comes up a bunch in this thread (bod and lotkid bitch over it :lol)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26235851#26235851

Seems like stareatclouds broke one of his trying to remove it though :shrug:


In tedsdead PC efficency tek, it appears that he places one of the canning rack/trivet things on the very top

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26556147#26556147

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excerpt from that thread ^^

After: 








the pc efficiency tek was perfect just missing  an image showing what went on the very bottom, or I was too stoned to find it I dunno

Waiting for this last tiny bit of grain to dry before I load this last bag and get this thing going....gonna be a late night...again :facepalm:

Why am I always up doing myco shit at 4 am


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #26671539 - 05/14/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Does anyone else experience the thing where you're thinking about something to up your game like starting to use bags. Then you go to general discussion and they're talking about bags, weird. :tongue:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26671557 - 05/14/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Haha, same happened to me.  I picked up a x75 and this thread and tools of the trade are talking about them. 

Thanks Sh4dows, that was a good link you sent.  I was going to load the bags directly on the stand but it seems really close to the heating element so am unsure.  That wire rack that Ted has on top isn't from the x75, I think he has those bags sitting in the water.  On my presto, I use a plate on top but don't know what is needed on the x75.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickyswamps]
    #26671566 - 05/14/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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What do people do with the long tube in the x75 when loading it full of spawn bags?

edit:  Are you putting anything on top of the bags between them and the lid?




I tied mine in a knot and it sits ontop of the bags.  I place a spacer ontop of the bags but the way I place them seems to keep them from expanding upwards.  if I do use a "normal" top layer of bags I place the folds upside down

@shadows:  just the wire rack that comes with the PC is on the bottom


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26671617 - 05/14/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Does anyone else experience the thing where you're thinking about something to up your game like starting to use bags. Then you go to general discussion and they're talking about bags, weird. :tongue:




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26672002 - 05/15/20 05:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ve been desperately trying to avoid posting this question because I know there is TON of information on this forum and others.  I’ve been reading everything I can to find the best course of action, but it still seems unclear, so here goes:

I just finished my first bulk grow using all the “easy AF” teks: MS Maz —> agar —> grain —> unmodified tubs (coir).  Yields were great, potency was VERY weak (ranging from a good body buzz, improved mood, uptick in energy, very mild visuals off 5g dry to almost no noticeable affects from 2.5g or somewhere in the middle). 

One thing that’s real clear is that using MS is crapshoot, that much I’m sure of—genetics, right?  Ok, I’m good with that, so is my next move to isolate and test until I find a strain I like? Or do I just keep doing MS grows until I get a strain with potency I like and clone it?  Would agar transfers help here?  If so, how many and is it still a roll of the dice?

Here’s the real noob question, would buying another syringe be a reasonable solution?  I’m not trying to just take the easy way out, I enjoy the hobby, not just for the tripping either.  I’ve learned quite a bit from this bulk grow than when I did the PF tek a few years ago thanks to this site.

I know this is a lot of questions and I’m sure the information is out there somewhere, so thanks for your patience.  I appreciate any help, even if it’s just a link or nudge in the right direction.

*hat tip*

Oh yea, any recommendations on what to do with a few oz of mild shroomies?  I’m thinking an extraction/tincture is the move here.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Elusively] * 1
    #26672013 - 05/15/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

hi all, a few years since i did this the last time.

I am wondering, when the the BRF cakes are full with mycelum, they are placed in a well aired transparent box with holes and on top of moist perlite. The last time I used small sheets of alu foil beneath the cakes themselves to minimize contam and downwards growth. 

If I remember correctly, the perlite should be wet to the touch. But rinsed of water. And one should spray the cakes a couple of times a day, and change the air by using the lid of the box.

Am I missing something here or is that about it?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fly Wizard] * 1
    #26672038 - 05/15/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That’s rough man having that little effect from 5g.

I can almost guarantee that if you do more ms grows they’ll be stronger, I’ve never had a whole batch that weak.


Anyway what you’d want to do is grow ms and find good mushrooms to clone. Basically fast and clustered. Then you’d take a piece of tissue and put it to a plate and eat the rest.

If the potency seems acceptable then grow out the clone.

It can be hard with small shrooms, when I did maz there’s no way I could use this method cuz all the shrooms were like 2-3 inches and dried to .1 ish.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26672047 - 05/15/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So I think I’ve just discovered that a lot more of my spawn has been bacterial than I thought.

I g2g PE and toc yesterday. The toc was from the last of an lc that’s produced crazy clusters so I wanted to continue the culture by putting a few grains on a plate.

I didn’t pay attention and grabbed PE grains first so I ended up with grain plates for both.

This morning I checked and both sets are fuzzing up but the toc plate has a lot of bacteria too.

PE is on the left toc is on the right. Middle is ufo.



Toc closer


I always thought this type of thinner myc where you can see the grains clearly was from rhizo but now I’m not sure. It could just be that I happened to dump bacteria from the mouth of the jar when I poured some grain on the plate.  But I did the same with the PE and it’s clean.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Elusively]
    #26672072 - 05/15/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Elusively said:
I’ve been desperately trying to avoid posting this question because I know there is TON of information on this forum and others.  I’ve been reading everything I can to find the best course of action, but it still seems unclear, so here goes:

I just finished my first bulk grow using all the “easy AF” teks: MS Maz —> agar —> grain —> unmodified tubs (coir).  Yields were great, potency was VERY weak (ranging from a good body buzz, improved mood, uptick in energy, very mild visuals off 5g dry to almost no noticeable affects from 2.5g or somewhere in the middle). 

One thing that’s real clear is that using MS is crapshoot, that much I’m sure of—genetics, right?  Ok, I’m good with that, so is my next move to isolate and test until I find a strain I like? Or do I just keep doing MS grows until I get a strain with potency I like and clone it?  Would agar transfers help here?  If so, how many and is it still a roll of the dice?

Here’s the real noob question, would buying another syringe be a reasonable solution?  I’m not trying to just take the easy way out, I enjoy the hobby, not just for the tripping either.  I’ve learned quite a bit from this bulk grow than when I did the PF tek a few years ago thanks to this site.

I know this is a lot of questions and I’m sure the information is out there somewhere, so thanks for your patience.  I appreciate any help, even if it’s just a link or nudge in the right direction.

*hat tip*

Oh yea, any recommendations on what to do with a few oz of mild shroomies?  I’m thinking an extraction/tincture is the move here.




If you barely get anything off of 5gs dry, then those genetics are junk.  MS is a crap shoot in a way, but there is still a general potency that you can expect.  I'd get some new spores either from the marketplace here or from a trusted sponsor.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickyswamps]
    #26672393 - 05/15/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I just sat my tub outside to get sunlight since indont have any lightSource setup.


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