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Sporeless B+, the start of something interesting? * 1
    #26658569 - 05/08/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So this morning picking fruits, I had a thought cross my mind regarding how some people collect brown spore prints, albino species, the difference between albino/clear spores, brown spores, regular spores, and thinking about how I've harvested hundreds of fruits from various strains and never seen an irregularity...Then I got to thinking about how that's probably because I don't take many prints....Anyway, I lay my fruits on my table to start cutting bottoms off, and boom, I see a white gilled baby!

These were pulled from a B+ tub that was spawned with 4 quarts of corn that was grain to grained from a jar of B+ LC that I made.

After noticing the irregular fruit, I placed it in a ziplock bag and put it in my fridge for the day. I cooked up some quarts of corn, and 2 quarts with 500ml of LC, 1 with 1/2 tbsp of honey, 1 with 1/2 tbsp of karo (yes, very plain, it's what has worked for me in the past and what I had on hand). I've previously cloned fruits on grain, using sterile procedure and simply cutting open the inner stem, cracking jars open slightly, and dropping in bits. I did this for 6 quarts of corn with pieces of this fruit.

I looped the gills of this fruit, I was unable to take pictures at 90x, but I uploaded 60x and 30x pictures. At 90x I was not able to see any light colored spores, so I believe the fruit is not just lightly spored, I believe it's either clear spores, or sporeless.

I'll update here as the jars and LC colonizes. Any input from other members would be great. Currently the fruit is dehydrating. I did not get pictures of the inner stem because I do not typically take out my phone in the area I handle grains/genetics. It bruised as my B+ typically does, as did parts of the cap.



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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed] * 2
    #26658704 - 05/08/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: mushhead]
    #26668696 - 05/13/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



Got growth on the clone jars! This one's looking great. I'm very hopeful for these jars, no contams and it's been 4 days or so now, this pic is from yesterday. Also when harvesting more fruits from the tub this one had come from, I found another fruit that appears half albino/sporeless.


Seems interesting. I do see spores on this fruit, but it appears on the edges, and almost the entire gill at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock, had no spores. The top of this cap was fairly light as well.


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed]
    #26668743 - 05/13/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Noob question, what is on those agar plates? ive never gotten streaks quite like that to fill a plate, very interesting!


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: huangdeez] * 2
    #26668745 - 05/13/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Noob question, what is on those agar plates? ive never gotten streaks quite like that to fill a plate, very interesting!



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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: poisoned]
    #26668760 - 05/13/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Heh I wish that was agar, that'd be wild!


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: poisoned] * 3
    #26670446 - 05/14/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I just spewed coffee all fucking over the place. Every day's a school day!! :dancer:


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Wolfenstein]
    #26670454 - 05/14/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Seriously this could be the beginning of Albino B+ (AB+) I think thats also a blood type?


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #26670475 - 05/14/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think it has way too much color to be Lucy or albino.

Probably just sporeless.


Idk much about this stuff though.


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26670870 - 05/14/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I think it has way too much color to be Lucy or albino.

Probably just sporeless.


Idk much about this stuff though.




Yea, but who knows! I'm not too educated in this stuff either I'll admit, I never read too much into albinoism. Sporeless alone would make it worth the cloning though imo!


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed]
    #26670944 - 05/14/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Just scoped the jars again (so hard not to just sit and stare all day...) they're movin' along...7 days since inoculation, no nasties so think I'm in the clear there, I had one jar that has growth poking through onto the top kernels of corn, so rolled some more grains on top. The LC's look alright, should have put some glass in there with them, I had to shake the HELL out of them to try to break up the growth on the flesh I put in. I'm hoping in the next few days I can noc up some jars with some LC, just gotta let it recover! Maybe Sunday! :laugh:


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed] * 1
    #26688463 - 05/22/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So little update, the jars are coming along pretty well! Some are about 90% colonized, I think I'll be able to spawn a tub next week! Other jars had to be shaken, I took some pics of some great looking myc in some of the jars preshake. Looks quite a bit like agar!



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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed]
    #26688494 - 05/22/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: X-Ray Cat]
    #26697960 - 05/26/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

4 quarts of grain is being spawned to a 60-70/40-30 mix of coir:manure, my experience with this will mean fruiting conditions in 8-10 days! Hopefully fruits in 13-15, we'll see how this turns out :smile:


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed] * 1
    #26697997 - 05/26/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I’d say sporeless over albino. The fruit still has pigment. Still cool. Hope that your new grows show the sporeless.


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: eatyualive] * 1
    #26727186 - 06/07/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Got knots starting to form!




Based on past grows with B+ I'm guessing I'll have open caps within the next 4-5 days... Fingers crossed there's no spores, then I'll be cloning a large fruit, and most likely fast tracking clones of clones of clones etc... by using tuperware containers and single quarts of WBS or corn since I'm not an agar kind of guy.


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed]
    #26727238 - 06/07/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you get mature shrooms five days from now you need to slant that culture.


What’s the new one in your signature?? The cap color looks cool with the spores.


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26727252 - 06/07/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ill do it for him out of generosity to keep the ball rolling here.


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26727619 - 06/07/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If you get mature shrooms five days from now you need to slant that culture.


What’s the new one in your signature?? The cap color looks cool with the spores.



Usually 5 days after knots is pretty average I feel? Maybe I'm just not paying attention and I'm off a few days :P

That's another B+ from a clone, that's a 5th flush monster from a plain coir tub. I did notice that a lot of those were pretty light color on the 4th and 5th flushes, but I've never taken clones from late flushes, didn't want to risk having less than ideal genetics so just tossed 'em on the dehydrator after harvesting.


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Re: Albino B+, the start of something interesting? [Re: Justweed]
    #26728119 - 06/08/20 05:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Got growth on the clone jars! This one's looking great. I'm very hopeful for these jars, no contams and it's been 4 days or so now, this pic is from yesterday. Also when harvesting more fruits from the tub this one had come from, I found another fruit that appears half albino/sporeless.


Seems interesting. I do see spores on this fruit, but it appears on the edges, and almost the entire gill at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock, had no spores. The top of this cap was fairly light as well.




Well what's the update? In the picture here it just looks like a deformed cap.

Any luck with the albino? Or is it clear spores instead of sporeless?


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