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Small amount of spice
#26670282 - 05/14/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Felt like i went inward to where my perceptions enter and thoughts are made
Sounds distorted, couldnt feel myself breathing, it was unexpected
I fought what i experienced but tried to give in
Very familiar things for that dose range i guess, didnt weigh it but it couldnt have been much at all
Felt like my thoughts couldnt form
Like they were there begining, questions, nut soon as they started forming i couldnt wrap around it like everyone escaped me
Strangest feeling of other sounds like a car driving by like it was placing its imprint on this strange closed eye visual grid type thing
Not really much image to it at all
Like closed eyes but its this moving shifting planes
Idk
Hard to make words of
Lots of familiar things i had forgotten with this substance at small doses...
Very peculiar and i told myself like i have many times "never do this again" and things like that
Feeling the need to apologize and plead for it to stop..
So strange because it really doesnt seem super strong or like i did a lot
My inability to handle these smaller doses cause my fear for trying higher onea
But sitting here as all feeling returns to normal and opening my eyes was allowed as it faded and things are all they were it gave me such a deep feeling of relaxation and resting. Almost had a tear come to my eye i dont know why and jist wanting to go hold my daughter
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26670348 - 05/14/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gave my gf a similar dose and she said ahe didnt feel much
Id guess around 20mg
All my spice is gone and i have this oily spice which is what we smoked

Didnt seem harsh but maybe throat hurts slightly after smoking
We smoked the lighter crystals that fell off easily not pictured
Is this oily residue good too? Was told it was but want to make sure. My gf wants to try more so i was thinking about giving her a dose of this or wondering if we should do a new extraction which i want to do anyway
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26670491 - 05/14/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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My gf really wanted to try more and was really excited to
I dont think she smoked all of what was in the pipe the first time, there was still some left over herb in the pipe. I packed on a little less than our initial doses. So in guessing in total she did 20-30mg
She wanted a full breakthrough experience but i am apprehensive about giving people that
Shes the only person ive ever even shared the spice with even though multiple people have asked me about it
Its just something about the spice, im apprehensive to give it to anyone based on my experiences even though i know lots of people have great times with it from what i hear
This is her report
"Started to feel warm and fuzzy and "heavy" as soon as I inhaled it all and closed my eyes. Tried to count to 20 but I knew I didn't have to cus I could feel it already stronger than previous experiences when I didn't actually "break through". From then on I was just in the backseat watching everything unfold with my eyes closed. Felt my muscles relaxing, almost felt the sensation of falling, like when you are in between wake and sleep and feel like you suddenly drop through the bed. From here on it was kind of a rough transition but relatively short until I was "in" the Dream. During the flight in I felt a rushing of memories thoughts feelings which were almost indistinguishable , like being caught in the middle of a tornado , overwhelming , a bit of nausea for a moment, a bit of concern over the physical discomfort but still very conscious that I was on a trip and the displeasure would end , so I wouldn't say I ever felt afraid. Some of the whirling fragmented thoughts/ideas/images begin to come into focus , I can recognize a rocking chair, a child swinging on a wooden swing , dolls , and suddenly I am rushing into this nursery type room, with a carpet on the floor , a rocking chair in the corner, a giant toy chest . It all feels familiar, like I have been here before. The sensation of the trip feels familiar too, as though I have smoked dmt before and had a breakthrough before which I have not. Now I am in the toy chest . I am a toy. Now I remember that I have to breathe into my physical body even thought I am not really in my physical body anymore. It is the spaceship, the shell which allows me to exist in the "real world" . my attention returns to the toy chest I am in, I am looking up at a giant clown who is grinning and peering in at me, I understand he is playing with me , can do whatever he wants to me. I can’t tell if he is good or bad only that I am in his power and he has a mischievous playful feel to him. Like he could pick me up and throw me for fun and I wouldn’t have any say about it. This is alarming and strange and I feel some discomfort , some wish to leave the dream, but I remmeber to breathe again and then I am coming back into my body, I suddenly hear the soft music that was playing in the kitchen downstairs , which had been completely drowned out by a sort of temporary deafness. I open my eyes and it looks as though things usually look on lsd, kind of like the vibrance has been turned way up on the picture, hard to look at, so I shut my eyes again. I am not ready to open my eyes yet, but the toy chest is beginning to fade. After another moment it is faded even more and I am breathing normally again (maybe I have been the whole time) . I feel a little shaken up and in awe of the experience , still high off the dmt but not "tripping" anymore . Sensation is still strange, sound is strange, it is difficult to speak, the floor looks like it is a floating plane, I notice the dog hairs and dust, makes the hard floor look like a patterned carpet. Wood grains look cool. These visuals fade off and I am left feeling calm, sedated , slow in my head , the details of the trip fading away already. I didn't feel "good " or happy or anything like after mushrooms or lsd , but rather a little humbled , small, awed by the strength of the experience. I don't feel the need to have this experience again for a while, but would like to explore it again in the future, potentially even going further ."
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26670502 - 05/14/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds like you're half-assing all around? Not trying to be rude, but if you're not ready don't force yourself to do something half-way. I know some people like low doses, but in my opinion the low doses are like being stuck in the doorway. You're still sober enough so your cognition is having thoughts, but the effects are starting to dissolve your ability to rationalize them, creating feelings of confusion, discomfort, wrongness. There's a reason you're supposed to take 3+ hits or enough to push your personal limit and mute yourself entirely for a breif five minutes. You know you'll be okay so really you just have to push yourself to do it. Then WOOAAHH, the trip actually begins. And that spice looks half-ass too. I'd already feel guilty about smoking something that low quality, which is probably having a negative subconscious effect on the trip that you're smoking something "bad". When the DMT is clean and pure there's no reason to hold back or half-ass it. Clasp your hands above your head and full-dive in.
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Icon]
#26670528 - 05/14/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean this seemed to produce the same effect as the crystal i had whichh was about a gram and a half that i had re x'd and cleaned
Still made me feel the same apprehension about it
I guess if takong low doses is half assing it then yes, im half assing it
But i wanted to smoke what i smoked and i didnt feel comfortable smoking more
For some reason i cant seem to force myself to dose dmt the way i can mushrooms or lsd which i hold no real fear toward
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26670597 - 05/14/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What do you have to lose?
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Icon]
#26670605 - 05/14/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah you're right man
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Icon]
#26670626 - 05/14/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icon said: Sounds like you're half-assing all around? Not trying to be rude, but if you're not ready don't force yourself to do something half-way. I know some people like low doses, but in my opinion the low doses are like being stuck in the doorway. You're still sober enough so your cognition is having thoughts, but the effects are starting to dissolve your ability to rationalize them, creating feelings of confusion, discomfort, wrongness. There's a reason you're supposed to take 3+ hits or enough to push your personal limit and mute yourself entirely for a breif five minutes. You know you'll be okay so really you just have to push yourself to do it. Then WOOAAHH, the trip actually begins. And that spice looks half-ass too. I'd already feel guilty about smoking something that low quality, which is probably having a negative subconscious effect on the trip that you're smoking something "bad". When the DMT is clean and pure there's no reason to hold back or half-ass it. Clasp your hands above your head and full-dive in.
Just because Terence mckenna says you have to take 3 hits doesn't mean you have to. I actually get a lot out of small doses. I love playing meditation music and hitting around 15mg out of the gvg, laying in bed. I literally become the music and I basically have a orgasm in my mind lol. You don't always have to take high doses. There's no rules... I only like 60mg doses a few times a year...
I agree about that dmt being nasty and unacceptable . You couldn't pay me 500$ to smoke that shit.
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26670632 - 05/14/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You don't have to use heat with dmt extractions. It causes you to pull more junk than anything else. Next time lay off the heat, use clean naphtha and re-x that shit.
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Shenmue]
#26670654 - 05/14/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Honestly didnt seem any different at all from the clean crystal i smoked
First time i had cleaner looking yellow crystal my first extraction and it burned when smoked before i re-x'd it. This tasted better than that even if the other stuff looked cleaner
I posted a pic of it a while back and had multiple people say it was fine to smoke and that it was just oils
Maybe ill re-x it and see what comes out but i think im going to do a new extraction soon anyway
But anyway, i feel similar about the small doses
I have gotten lots of therapeutic effect from it and it has put me im very relaxed meditative states which i find beneficial
Its my experience and journey with dmt and i dont feel the need to push things even if in the back of my mind i feel i should go all the way
I dont see any reason not to get aquainted with and explore low doses if thats what feels comfortable for me
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26670804 - 05/14/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Spice scares me,it's interesting reading the accounts tho
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26670844 - 05/14/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: I dont see any reason not to get aquainted with and explore low doses if thats what feels comfortable for me
Just sounds like an excuse. Didn't sound like you were very comfortable, and you said those feelings are common for you and that you get the impression to never do it again. It shouldn't and doesn't have to be that way. I feel bad for those people, because they clearly haven't had a high-dose experience to compare it to. But maybe I'm not understanding you and there was a lot of benefit from it?
I think you should go big but I wouldn't want you to push yourself just because someone told you to. You have to want it mentally. There's something about setting the intentions "I'm going to extract it extra carefully this time and make sure it's going to be the best DMT I've ever extracted, and I'm going to be really excited to finally have this experience available to me that I've been longing for, and I'm going to load my device and inhale the deepest, biggest hit from it that I can because I'm fully confident in my intentions and am ready to fully embrace the experience." It all comes full-circle. There's a moment during the breakthrough that is timeless, and the euphoria of achievement from all the steps you took and corners you didn't cut will be fully realized and appreciated.
Once you have a high-dose experience with a little confidence, you realize there was nothing to fear all along. Maybe it's similar to a bird learning to fly for the first time. Thinks it's dying until it spreads its wings. High-doses kind of give you that push. No one's ready to jump off the branch into the unknown, you have to push yourself in a way that will take you out of control. Realizing the power of acceptance and letting go of what you can’t control is the first lesson DMT teaches, and a tool for its further exploration.
Edited by Icon (05/14/20 03:34 PM)
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Icon]
#26670971 - 05/14/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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There always is benefit but i fight it and youre right
It jist scares me and its uncomfortable, gets a bit better if and when i can relax and let go and more observe without fear amd anxiety
Afterward i always feel better and forget why i was scared until i go back in...
Yeah your second paragraph is pretty inspirational. I do want to go all in. Just havent done it yet. I might try your suggestion with this extraction.
Thanks for your response 
I kinda keep telling myself ill slowly work up but maybe i do just need to load more and go all in
Its been two years since my first extraction. A lot has changed since i first tried dmt.
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Enkidu]
#26671026 - 05/14/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: There always is benefit but i fight it and youre right
It jist scares me and its uncomfortable, gets a bit better if and when i can relax and let go and more observe without fear amd anxiety
Afterward i always feel better and forget why i was scared until i go back in...
Yeah your second paragraph is pretty inspirational. I do want to go all in. Just havent done it yet. I might try your suggestion with this extraction.
Thanks for your response 
I kinda keep telling myself ill slowly work up but maybe i do just need to load more and go all in
Its been two years since my first extraction. A lot has changed since i first tried dmt.
Dont use heat with your next extraction. I think you're going to be surprised how much cleaner it is. I've done side by side extractions with the same bark. All you do is pull junk with heat. By the time you clean it you end up with nearly the same amount. I'm just like icon when it comes to dirty dmt. Your goal should be to extract dmt not plant fats or other junk.. I would rather have a gram of white dmt than 1.3g of nasty brown dmt. White dmt is a lot smoother and more beautiful. In my opinion the experience is more heavenly. A sherlock glass vapor genie is also a good investment.. Good luck!!
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Re: Small amount of spice [Re: Shenmue]
#26671314 - 05/14/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well most of my extraction was clean crystal
I dont have pics anymore, was like two years ago
I got 1g from 50-100g. Idr how much i did
Idk where this even came from. If it was the last pulls and i kept ot seperate or maybe i did pulls after or what. I just know i had this stored away and its got dmt in it
Ill keep that in mind though next time, but yeah, the 1g of dmt i extracted was yellow or more gold then i cleaned it once and it was light yellow white
But this stuff didnt seem any different
Seemed strong and had no noticable taste
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