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Re: Help. New to growing. [Re: poisoned]
#26669984 - 05/14/20 04:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Practice makes perfect. To add that old story a bit.. Cardboard were in a slightly opened plastic box and not on the sunny side. No recollection about how long my vacation was though - so must have been a good one..
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PiggyPig
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Re: Help. New to growing. [Re: Speeker]
#26670040 - 05/14/20 05:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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IMO, as long as you can get a culture to grow, you're not too far off track. I have never had great success with MS syringe straight to agar. Always makes some milky substance are rarely grown without major contam. I prefer to clone tissue onto agar and if this is not a possibility, I'll shoot the MS syringe straight to grain. Once I see some grains colonising, I pluck a few out and place them onto agar then throw out the rest of the jar. IMO, agar does not have to be the first step, but it is essential to refine your culture at some point before you can go balls to the wall with it.
If there is one thing I have learned about growing, it is that agar is the key to success. It looks all sciency with the petris and what not but the best advice for any noob is to start working with agar and never stop. Always have to go back to it, the agar step is never done. When I noc up jars with a wedge, I transfer a few nice rhizo pieces onto some other plates for use in the future. Mother jars noc up grain jars, grain jars noc up bulk substrate and that is the end of the line. Back to agar and repeat the process.
At first, I carried on with g2g over and over thinking I had no more use for agar anymore. Boy was I wrong. Every generation would get slower than the last and eventually contamination would set in. Always be cultivating and start from agar every time. Your cultures will improve over time and will have less of a tendency to become contaminated.
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greenmachine78
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I did that my first time. After 4 weeks I found this place and started reading. After 3 months of reading I started again with success. I didn't have anything spawn in my bags. Lesson learned.
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LogicaL Chaos said: So it sounds like its OK to inject spores onto grain, as long as u dont know better? Is that the new concensus?
It's a point to start with yes and is just as looked down upon as injecting into BRF cakes 
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poisoned said: IMO, ppl should inoculate a few jars as well as few dishes with spores when they get their supplies. They can get some practice that way as well as possibly some shrooms sooner rather than later. If they get them to fruit, they will already see what things are supposed to look like when it's time for the real deal.
I agree on this, beginning multiple teks and having multiple vectors in which to study is essential in learning mush cult. You give yourself the ability to not only observe mushroom myc growth but also bacteria, mold, and other contaminates. This gives one understanding on how to pick out contams before it even spores by how the myc looks. You can observe multiple strains, compare fruiting methods, and discern what works best for your immediate grow environment. You might have more mushrooms than you bargained for, but is that all bad?
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