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Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question * 1
    #26670430 - 05/14/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

this is a new issue to study and learn about for me and searching did not provide a ton of info..... albino characteristics are very interesting.

So I took some preservation prints of some AA+. Some of them are blank to the eye. I did observe several of the gill areas to be white and had marked them and watched them and yup it looks empty.

I could put a pic of folded up looking aluminum foil that has nothing on it - but thats not exciting. But this is more interesting:



note the far left print. I hated to open these foils but I had to open more than one and observe them.


and another. note the purple shades even with no visible gill print lines and you can see the middle circle:




so there are some you do not see anything visibly. could/can they be sterile or did not drop anything? or its there and colorless?

time for a microscope for me ?


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: PinkStormtrooper] * 1
    #26670487 - 05/14/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That’s just a light print.

Sometimes they don’t have a ton of spores so it looks like that.

You can still see the outline of the cap and gills.


If it were albino the spores would be totally clear.


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: A.k.a]
    #26671300 - 05/14/20 07:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

so how can i tell? is the only ways to swab a 'blank' print and hope it does something? I have many that left no visible anything to the eye on foil.

can i put the aluminum foil under a microscope and see anything?

Can I put it on black plastic or something besides foil to make it stand out?

Hit it with a light? Dye? Something?

I've never used a scope but Ill go get one for this if thats what I got to do.


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26671309 - 05/14/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Buy a magnifying glass or print onto a clean petri dish. Also side lighting should cast tiny shadows of spores.


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26671381 - 05/14/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

With actual albino spores I think you’d have to have that slide oil or dye stuff.

In the APEU thread they were swabbing caps and then streaking plates to see if spores germinated.
But then the problem is it could be spores or could be gill fragments growing the myc.


I’m definitely not the person to talk to about this lol.


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26671643 - 05/14/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well, youre the best we got right now :lol:

Perhaps a microscope is the best solution for clear spores.


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26671695 - 05/15/20 12:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

kinda makes me wanna put some of my albino swabs under the scope and see...  I got a few tubs of averies coming up


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: TedsDead] * 1
    #26671764 - 05/15/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Please do. I bet they look pretty kewl :cool:


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: PinkStormtrooper] * 2
    #26671958 - 05/15/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You probably wouldn't have colored spores if it was an albino.

Lots of time we get some caps that don't drop spores and sometimes you get sporeless caps of the same variety. A true albino is pretty rare.

But you can see that there are spores in all of those pictures.


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Re: Leucistic vs Albino vs Not There foil print question [Re: Sockadin]
    #26671998 - 05/15/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i feel like im in a monty python skit


"Sir, these spore prints are blank"

"No they're not, they're albino"

"But I canna see em"

"They're resting, sir. They dont like photographs"

"No mate, quite sure theres nothing there on this foil"

"Do you suggest our foils are printless sir? They are clear, you cant see them sir."

"THERE ARE NO SPORE PRINTS ON THIS RUBBISH BIT OF FOIL!"

"Sir, they are absolutely everywhere. don't you see them? They are practically climbing up your arm they are so vibrant"

"No, I CAN'T BLOODY SEE THEM, THIS PRINT IS BLANK"


imma go find a microscope theres one in this house somewhere.


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