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OfflineLearyfanS
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Reopen theory * 1
    #26670203 - 05/14/20 10:23 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Just a theory.  What if Trump wants to reopen, not just because it will spur the economy before the election, which he plans on running on, but mostly because he wants the outbreaks to get really bad again, forcing the election to either be postponed or canceled. 

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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #26670218 - 05/14/20 10:35 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

If there is no election, it is my understanding that Constitutionally, the Speaker of the House is inaugurated. I don't think Trump wants that.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26670358 - 05/14/20 12:31 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Because we’ve been following the Constitution to a tee as of late.

In case no one noticed the Senate just voted to erase the 4th amendment like 2 days ago.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26670505 - 05/14/20 02:04 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

The senate has no power to erase any part of the constitution.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan] * 2
    #26670514 - 05/14/20 02:11 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

I don’t think reopening is going to do much to fix the economy . People aren’t going to go out and spend money the way they did if they feel like they might get sick . It may end up be the reason for a second wave actually.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan]
    #26670546 - 05/14/20 02:30 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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Just a theory.  What if Trump wants to reopen, not just because it will spur the economy before the election, which he plans on running on, but mostly because he wants the outbreaks to get really bad again, forcing the election to either be postponed or canceled. 

Your thoughts.











Come on man :lol: ..Do you think money falls off of trees? The economy being shut down will kill far more people than the virus.

I highly doubt hes trying to get the election cancelled lol. You do realize he's running against joe Biden don't you :lol:.? Donald's going to win again I promise you. Trump still has his voters from last time and a lot of Bernie fans are pissed and switched over to trump. It's not even going to be close.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue]
    #26670552 - 05/14/20 02:33 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

It would be hardly a surprise if it did in fact happen this way, but I wouldn’t bet my ones on it.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue]
    #26670555 - 05/14/20 02:34 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

If Hillary couldn't beat him do you honestly think joe Biden can do it? Think about man. There's no way... It's not possible... Bernie Sanders could have pulled it off but not Biden.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26670576 - 05/14/20 02:42 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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The senate has no power to erase any part of the constitution.




This is the most unusual presidency ever.  They could find some loophole.


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Shenmue said:You do realize he's running against joe Biden don't you :lol:.? Donald's going to win again I promise you. Trump still has his voters from last time and a lot of Bernie fans are pissed and switched over to trump. It's not even going to be close.




That's what I think too, but Trump was obviously so concerned about Biden that he shook down a foreign country to get dirt on him.  So you never know.










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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan]
    #26670585 - 05/14/20 02:47 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

There are 100s of news articles saying Biden should drop out because it looks like he can’t win the primary .  Never underestimate the establishment .


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan]
    #26670598 - 05/14/20 02:53 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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This is the most unusual presidency ever.  They could find some loophole.


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Shenmue said:You do realize he's running against joe Biden don't you :lol:.? Donald's going to win again I promise you. Trump still has his voters from last time and a lot of Bernie fans are pissed and switched over to trump. It's not even going to be close.




That's what I think too, but Trump was obviously so concerned about Biden that he shook down a foreign country to get dirt on him.  So you never know.













Do you think joe Biden isn't trying to do everything in his power to get dirt on trump? Biden can't beat trump. The politicians and rich feared universal healthcare so bad that they decided to fuck Bernie Sanders over. They decided that trump was better option than Bernie. I don't see how a Bernie supporter could ever vote for Biden after getting fucked like that...


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26670601 - 05/14/20 02:55 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

The democratic party didn't want Bernie to win.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26670604 - 05/14/20 02:55 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

There weren't enough Bernie supporters to beat Biden. :shrug:  It's not like Bernie was ahead on votes or delegates and shenanigans happened.  Biden beat Bernie straight up.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue] * 2
    #26670611 - 05/14/20 02:59 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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The politicians and rich feared universal healthcare so bad that they decided to fuck Bernie Sanders over. They decided that trump was better option than Bernie. I don't see how a Bernie supporter could ever vote for Biden after getting fucked like that...




As a Bernie supporter, I realize this election is going to be one big shit sandwich that we're all going to have to bite. But Biden is a smaller piece of shit than Trump. It sucks that it's come to that, but it has. But I don't want to derail the thread. This is about my theory that Trump wants to, at the very least, postpone the election.










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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26670612 - 05/14/20 03:00 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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It's not like Bernie was ahead on votes or delegates and shenanigans happened.  Biden beat Bernie straight up.



Bernie WAS ahead on votes AND delegates through Super Tuesday, and MAJOR shenanigans were continuously happening to stop him.  Maybe you missed those threads?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26670618 - 05/14/20 03:03 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Doesn't matter.  Biden passed Bernie in both votes and delegates.  Nobody got cheated.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan]
    #26670646 - 05/14/20 03:19 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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The politicians and rich feared universal healthcare so bad that they decided to fuck Bernie Sanders over. They decided that trump was better option than Bernie. I don't see how a Bernie supporter could ever vote for Biden after getting fucked like that...




As a Bernie supporter, I realize this election is going to be one big shit sandwich that we're all going to have to bite. But Biden is a smaller piece of shit than Trump. It sucks that it's come to that, but it has. But I don't want to derail the thread. This is about my theory that Trump wants to, at the very least, postpone the election.













Your theory doesn't make any sense..


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26670650 - 05/14/20 03:20 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Bernie WAS ahead on votes AND delegates through Super Tuesday, and MAJOR shenanigans were continuously happening to stop him.  Maybe you missed those threads?




Facts!!!


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26670659 - 05/14/20 03:27 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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The senate has no power to erase any part of the constitution.




In that case I’m sure SCOTUS will strikes down this law as unconstitutional.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26670661 - 05/14/20 03:28 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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There weren't enough Bernie supporters to beat Biden. :shrug:  It's not like Bernie was ahead on votes or delegates and shenanigans happened.  Biden beat Bernie straight up.




Any thoughts on the huge discrepancies between exit polls and vote counts, virtually all of which helped Biden and hurt Bernie?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26670674 - 05/14/20 03:34 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

It was all just an innocent coincidence.  The many, many, many errors found against Bernie could have just as easily have gone the other way, right?  :smirk:


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 5
    #26670706 - 05/14/20 04:03 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Of course bro. It’s not like trillions of dollars were at stake for the ruling class if Bernie did win. I’m sure our democratic process is up to snuff.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #26670716 - 05/14/20 04:10 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue]
    #26670718 - 05/14/20 04:13 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Your theory doesn't make any sense..




I'm just spitballing here. Let's say the number of COVID infected people skyrockets this summer or fall. Then they quarantine people again, right before the election (I forgot to mention that part of my theory). At that point, President pigshit says polling stations violate social distancing measures, therefore we have to postpone the election. People will say that, as Enlil stated, the right to vote is in the constitution. At that point, as It's Ecstatic said, "SCOTUS will strike down this law as unconstitutional." Or they'll find some way of doing it. They're extremely creative when it comes to evil. 









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Re: Reopen theory [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26670722 - 05/14/20 04:16 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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The senate has no power to erase any part of the constitution.




In that case I’m sure SCOTUS will strikes down this law as unconstitutional.



I don't know what law you mean.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan]
    #26670749 - 05/14/20 04:36 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Your theory doesn't make any sense..




I'm just spitballing here. Let's say the number of COVID infected people skyrockets this summer or fall. Then they quarantine people again, right before the election (I forgot to mention that part of my theory). At that point, President pigshit says polling stations violate social distancing measures, therefore we have to postpone the election. People will say that, as Enlil stated, the right to vote is in the constitution. At that point, as It's Ecstatic said, "SCOTUS will strike down this law as unconstitutional." Or they'll find some way of doing it. They're extremely creative when it comes to evil. 












It's not going to postpone the election!!!  How would this virus prevent people from voting lol?!!! Everyone's been going to Walmart, grocery stores and gas stations but you think they're going to shut down the voting booths.  Come on man lol... This virus isn't nearly as bad as you think. The hospitals aren't even half way full right now.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #26670782 - 05/14/20 04:52 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Your theory makes perfect sense. All this shit from 9/11 to Trump to Covid was all unimaginable.

If you can’t imagine the constitution being suspended at this point come next fall when the virus is raising total fucking hell then you need better googles.

America exists on faith in social norms and if y’all haven’t been paying attention they’ve been ripped to shreds.

If it hasn’t occurred to you that the next election could be cancelled and Trump could refuse to give up power you’re in some deep fucking denial.

I'm not saying it IS his plan but ruling it out is ridiculous. It’s entirely plausible.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue]
    #26670792 - 05/14/20 04:55 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Just a theory.  What if Trump wants to reopen, not just because it will spur the economy before the election, which he plans on running on, but mostly because he wants the outbreaks to get really bad again, forcing the election to either be postponed or canceled. 

Your thoughts.











Come on man :lol: ..Do you think money falls off of trees? The economy being shut down will kill far more people than the virus.





It's not that you're wrong about that, but that's not how people are thinking about it. The majority of the public wants to keep things closed until there is much more certainty than there is now.

People can focus on a cause of death that is defined, specific  and direct. Personally, I have a fear of riding motorcycles, guns and driving 100 mph. But I have engaged in a lot of behaviors that could kill me slowly.

Economic collapse will result in a lot of deaths with a lot of different causes over an extended period of time. People don't focus on that like they do on getting the virus and dying in the next few months.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26670801 - 05/14/20 04:59 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Biden doesn't want universal healthcare, doesn't have a problem with our college and education system, he's against legal pot, wants to go after guns, has dementia, has never worked a real job in his life. He has no history with business and isnt going to rebuild the economy.  How can you possibly think hes a good choice? I seriously don't get it. On paper that's about as bad as it gets.

Before the virus the economy was doing great so there's no way I'm voting for Biden. It's so ridiculous to even consider Biden over trump. It seems like you're willing to watch the economy be destroyed just because you're sensitive to the way trump talks. I don't care how he offends people. The number one thing the president should do is build a strong economy and trump was doing that.

We have to rebuild the economy because of the virus. If our choices are Biden and trump then the logical choice should be trump.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26670827 - 05/14/20 05:06 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Your theory makes perfect sense. All this shit from 9/11 to Trump to Covid was all unimaginable.

If you can’t imagine the constitution being suspended at this point come next fall when the virus is raising total fucking hell then you need better googles.

America exists on faith in social norms and if y’all haven’t been paying attention they’ve been ripped to shreds.

If it hasn’t occurred to you that the next election could be cancelled and Trump could refuse to give up power you’re in some deep fucking denial.

I'm not saying it IS his plan but ruling it out is ridiculous. It’s entirely plausible.




If the government was trying to take over don't you think they would want a puppet like joe Biden? He's the one that wants us unarmed and helpless. The government doesn't even like Donald Trump!!!

I'm going to be laughing this November. Biden is going to get destroyed and lose the election.  I can't wait to say I told you so..


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    #26670990 - 05/14/20 06:24 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Dude. I wouldn’t vote for Biden with a gun to my head. I hate Trump more but it’s still very unlikely you hate Biden more than me. I hate both them and everything else about this piece of shit country. Fucking Biden would dig up his dead son and waltz his corpse around America for more power. Fuck all of it and all of them. Fucking HATE.


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    #26670997 - 05/14/20 06:28 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

I like Biden just because everyone hates him so much , I hope he wins , just so I can watch the snowmelt .


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26671038 - 05/14/20 06:47 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Enlil said:
The senate has no power to erase any part of the constitution.




In that case I’m sure SCOTUS will strikes down this law as unconstitutional.



I don't know what law you mean.



Ok, then, as ecstatic asserted earlier, you must not be paying attention.

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them to collect your web browsing data, in it's entirety, without a warrant.

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    #26671040 - 05/14/20 06:47 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Dude. I wouldn’t vote for Biden with a gun to my head. I hate Trump more but it’s still very unlikely you hate Biden more than me. I hate both them and everything else about this piece of shit country. Fucking Biden would dig up his dead son and waltz his corpse around America for more power. Fuck all of it and all of them. Fucking HATE.




You can always move somewhere else. Is someone holding a gun up to your head preventing you from leaving? Have you even attempted to leave? I personally love the United states. I hate the government...


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    #26671072 - 05/14/20 07:08 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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I like Biden just because everyone hates him so much , I hope he wins , just so I can watch the snowmelt .




Sounds like the sentiment of 2016 Trump supporters. Not a dig; there is a level of truth to that..... that impetus will always be in politics.


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    #26671162 - 05/14/20 08:02 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

I also don’t like conservatism , or the Republican Party and the unique issues they stand for . I have more than one reason .


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    #26671177 - 05/14/20 08:10 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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  The only reason we are united is because of the government though ......


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26671220 - 05/14/20 08:40 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Yes, one of many for all. Voting for Trump or Biden will be :facepalm:. They could be the two least desirable candidates in my lifetime.


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    #26671232 - 05/14/20 08:50 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Is it about one man though ? What about the parties and the ideas they stand for ?
  How is it an either or choice for you ?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26671249 - 05/14/20 09:06 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

They all stand for helping the rich.  I'm voting Green Party for President.

The Green Party won't win, of course, but I can't vote for current candidates.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26671279 - 05/14/20 09:29 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

I’ll vote dem ticket down ballot but I’m leaving president blank


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26671330 - 05/14/20 09:56 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

I have picked and chosen from both sides; it has been sometime since I voted for (R), though.

Not either or; I will be writing in Sanders. I am far from a "democratic socialist" and have serious reservations about his age....but he at least addressed issues facing me.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26671382 - 05/14/20 10:24 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Enlil said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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Enlil said:
The senate has no power to erase any part of the constitution.




In that case I’m sure SCOTUS will strikes down this law as unconstitutional.



I don't know what law you mean.



Ok, then, as ecstatic asserted earlier, you must not be paying attention.

They added new provisions to the patriot act during its resigning that allows
them to collect your web browsing data, in it's entirety, without a warrant.

Pretty sure you know what the 4th amendment is



I'm not sure it runs afoul of the 4th. You seem to be,  though. Can you explain how it does?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26671390 - 05/14/20 10:28 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

“Technically they’re not concentration camps, they’re just holding the Jews here until they can deport them. Can you provide evidence that they didn’t ruin the German economy?”


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    #26671391 - 05/14/20 10:30 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

What are you talking about?


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil]
    #26671394 - 05/14/20 10:31 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

I’m talking about a line in the sand dude. And across this line you do not cross!


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil]
    #26671398 - 05/14/20 10:33 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

4th amendment
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

It can easily be argued that in the digital age, "papers" can easily be interpreted as
digital media/emails etc.

Also, a warrant is supposed to be needed to access cell phone data already,
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    #26671399 - 05/14/20 10:33 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

That didn't clarify it at all.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26671400 - 05/14/20 10:34 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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4th amendment
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

It can easily be argued that in the digital age, "papers" can easily be interpreted as
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Also, a warrant is supposed to be needed to access cell phone data already,
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It doesn't allow them to see the content of internet traffic without a warrant.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #26671403 - 05/14/20 10:35 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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4th amendment
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

It can easily be argued that in the digital age, "papers" can easily be interpreted as
digital media/emails etc.

Also, a warrant is supposed to be needed to access cell phone data already,
possible precedent for digital privacy




Ok smart guy but no one browses the internet on their cell phone :smug:


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26671464 - 05/14/20 11:22 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Not either or; I will be writing in Sanders.



Good point!  I almost forgot about that.  Clearly the best option.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #26671545 - 05/15/20 12:01 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

The algorithms driving the internet - as used in all social media platforms, to all search engines, to ISPs themselves in a sense - are a major factor in the divisions in individuals and groups today. It essentially fabricates a specially tailored echo chamber trip for you and yours every time you use it, then when you encounter another human either online or offline , and if they aren’t in your echo chamber group, you essentially have a different conditioned world view and problems arise for those unable to discern this machination that essentially aiding in the schisms all over the country and world.

Think this is highly underrated as a major influence on the times. Everyone’s Getting spoon fed their own ego on a silver platter and not everyone’s aware of it, and even less are taking proper recourse to appropriately balance and temper their thoughts - words - and actions to reflect reality as it actually is in light of this pervasive near- constant phenomena.  And we are worse of as a species because of it.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26672540 - 05/15/20 02:13 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Good point!  I almost forgot about that.  Clearly the best option.





If I were you I’d write in Putin . And then post a pic of it in my sig just to fuck with people .


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26672584 - 05/15/20 02:42 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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If I were you I’d write in Putin . And then post a pic of it in my sig just to fuck with people .



:dudewtf:


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26673048 - 05/15/20 06:46 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Lol pretending you’re not a Putin sycophant


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    #26673051 - 05/15/20 06:48 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Or he’ll just do the next best thing and vote for Trump


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Lol pretending you’re not a Putin sycophant



Where have I ever defended Putin?  Oh ya, when you make believe things about him, just like you do with Trump.

Otherwise I won't defend them.


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Lol pretending you’re not a Putin sycophant



Where have I ever defended Putin?  Oh ya, when you make believe things about him, just like you do with Trump.

Otherwise I won't defend them.



After the annexation of Crimea you tried to convince everyone that they wanted to be invaded and loved putin


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26673471 - 05/15/20 09:50 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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Good point!  I almost forgot about that.  Clearly the best option.





If I were you I’d write in Putin . And then post a pic of it in my sig just to fuck with people .




I'd vote for Putin if he was running against Trump and Biden.


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    #26673484 - 05/15/20 09:53 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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Good point!  I almost forgot about that.  Clearly the best option.





If I were you I’d write in Putin . And then post a pic of it in my sig just to fuck with people .




I'd vote for Putin if he was running against Trump and Biden.




Its finally come down to this.  Russian master plan to make the country surrender itself by having the only 2 candidates both be crazy elite geriatric dementia patients .


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26673507 - 05/15/20 10:11 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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After the annexation of Crimea you tried to convince everyone that they wanted to be invaded and loved putin



NO.

I said Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and 96% of Crimeans voted to rejoin Russia.

Pew public opinion polling confirmed these numbers, as did a trip I took to Crimea (you don't have to believe me about my trip).

I also said Crimeans are pro-Russia, but not necessarily pro-Putin.

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    #26673520 - 05/15/20 10:15 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

You do know the vote was boycotted by the pro Ukrainian population.

It’s just ridiculous that you defend a vote run by an invading force two months after the invaded. That’s just not a legitimate exercise in democracy


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    #26673533 - 05/15/20 10:20 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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You do know the vote was boycotted by the pro Ukrainian population.



Were Crimean votes counted?

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It’s just ridiculous that you defend a vote run by an invading force two months after the invaded. That’s just not a legitimate exercise in democracy



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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26673540 - 05/15/20 10:22 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

I wouldn’t. Putin is 10 times more malicious than Trump and about a million times more competent.

Biden is just the senile homeless man outside the liquor store that the ruling class convinces to buy booze for them.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: Enlil]
    #26674883 - 05/16/20 03:23 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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4th amendment
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It can easily be argued that in the digital age, "papers" can easily be interpreted as
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Also, a warrant is supposed to be needed to access cell phone data already,
possible precedent for digital privacy



It doesn't allow them to see the content of internet traffic without a warrant.



Well, enlil, seeing as you access your email through a web browser, I don't see
it as that much of a stretch to think they can use that as an excuse to gain entry to such things.


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Re: Reopen theory [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26674921 - 05/16/20 03:48 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

First, I don't use a browser to access emails. If I did, I don't see how that would give them access to content.


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We'll see I guess.

Being able to access browser data is bad enough even if there were zero threat of
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I've seen no indication that they will be able to access browser data either.  It appears it's only search history.


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    #26675227 - 05/16/20 06:19 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Why do you hate freedom so much?


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How does this impact your freedom?


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    #26679156 - 05/18/20 04:59 PM (1 month, 24 days ago)

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:facepalm:


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I like the freedom; away from your freedom.


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