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Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ?
    #26669948 - 05/14/20 04:49 AM (9 months, 9 days ago)

Hey guys . I am just entering the world of picking and really excited about this . recently moced to a place where there rae loads around .

this might be a rookie question but trying to take every precaution I can and learn the most I can .

So I went today to my spot and noticed a lot of sub were starting to go a bit black which I had not noticed yesterday and was quite sure they weren't that color . I posted photos of them below

Does that mean they are getting bad ?
why do they turn black ?
Do I have to be worried ?

I hope someone enlightens me on these matters .

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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: universal explorer]
    #26669979 - 05/14/20 05:26 AM (9 months, 9 days ago)

You should wait a bit for those pins to mature before you pick them. And use scissors.
Oxidation of psilocin is what makes active mushrooms turn blue and eventually black. This will lead to potency loss, but usually only minimal. They're still good to consume.


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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26669986 - 05/14/20 05:35 AM (9 months, 9 days ago)

Hello there

Thanks for the quick reply .

Yeah  am aware of that these were on the floor already . Always use a scissor was one of the first  things I learned .

so Basically they start turning back because their losing their potency ?does that mean  that they are ready?  I saw some black that they were still on the ground growing , would they be ready to pcik them up if they are already turning black ?


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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: universal explorer]
    #26670001 - 05/14/20 05:54 AM (9 months, 9 days ago)

Ideally, a the mushroom shouldn't be blue, green or black. Oxidation (break down) of psychoactive alkaloids isn't something you want. I don't see any black ones in your photo, but those are very blue. Black usually means "maybe too far gone). Colouration isn't an indicator for harvest time. Just wait for them to mature.


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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26670006 - 05/14/20 06:00 AM (9 months, 9 days ago)

Thanks for the all the knowledge .

Just wanted to make sure that black is not and its ok to eat them and  I can eat them fresh as they are .

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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: universal explorer]
    #26670327 - 05/14/20 11:01 AM (9 months, 9 days ago)

It's ok to get the pins that are black on the cap,  they will abort anyway and the pins are as potent as mature fruit if not more so. I strongly recommend using scissors to harvest mushrooms in Australia and New Zealand because of a destructive fungi called Phytophythora cinnamomi,  it's spread by disturbing the soil.


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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: Doc9151]
    #26670341 - 05/14/20 11:13 AM (9 months, 9 days ago)

There are plenty of reasons why one would harvest pins, primarily as Doc said, if you suspect they will abort soon


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    #26670860 - 05/14/20 04:22 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

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There are plenty of reasons why one would harvest pins, primarily as Doc said, if you suspect they will abort soon




These ones seemed fine though, same poster:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26668039#26668039


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    #26670868 - 05/14/20 04:25 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

Yeah most of those look too young, I agree


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    #26670885 - 05/14/20 04:31 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

Definitely should wait until they open up and start dropping spores, but if the caps are turning black then they will not reach maturity and should be harvested.


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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: Doc9151]
    #26671641 - 05/15/20 12:26 AM (9 months, 8 days ago)

Thanks guys for the Replies ..

So from what i understand its perfectly safe to eat them and the thing that turns them back is the phytophythora thing and its doesnt mean they are not edible . :smile:


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Re: Black Psilocybe subs gone bad ? [Re: universal explorer]
    #26671749 - 05/15/20 01:53 AM (9 months, 8 days ago)

Yes, they're fine for consumption. No, it's the oxidation of psilocin that makes them turn blue and black. This happens with too much handling, getting banged about, heavy rain etc.
Phytophythora cinnamomi is a parasitic fungus that kills trees.


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