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MyceliumMango
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Casing after fruiting conditions but before pinning question.
#26667978 - 05/13/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quick question. I've noticed one of my tubs sub layer (coir/verm) is rather uneven, nothing super drastic but when you get down on eye level you can see there are some significant Mycelium mountains. Which is weird because I remember laying the sub/spawn rather even. I'm running a bunch of tubs and jumped them all into fruiting conditions last night (ripped off tape, stuffed with poly fill dropped temps from 80 to 75, added light cycle) and I only noticed this right now. My question is would it be to late to case the tub with the uneven sub and just continue to keep it in fruiting conditions with the rest of the tubs? Or should I case and tape it back up, wait until its at 30%, and then throw it back into fruiting? It's hella consolidated and thick atm, its only about a 3 inch sub depth with 4quarts of spawn to 8 quarts of sub. I generally don't case, I've found that my tubs don't really push out much more of a yield and my tubs are always dialed in perf, if I do case its generally after the second flush. I've just heard nightmares about uneven sub layers creating uneven pin sets, and being a breeding ground for water pools i.e bacteria. Sorry if that was a lot! Please share your input, any info would greatly be appreciated.
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DigDug
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Re: Casing after fruiting conditions but before pinning question. [Re: MyceliumMango]
#26668081 - 05/13/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I case my tubs when I put them into fruiting. If you just put into fruiting last night, I do not believe that it would be too late to case.
That being said, there are much more experienced cultivators in here, so I would welcome their opinions as well.
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Tstone
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Re: Casing after fruiting conditions but before pinning question. [Re: DigDug]
#26668119 - 05/13/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I case as they go into the fruiting room, after a 7-10 day sub colonization. If you want to case now, it's fine.
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shevanel
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Re: Casing after fruiting conditions but before pinning question. [Re: Tstone]
#26668156 - 05/13/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If I late case I never do it before I see enough knots. Whenever I case prior to knotting all it does it prolong pinning or inhibit it some. Of course there will be times where that isn't the case but in terms of the law of averages I have noticed that more often than not it's best to case right on top of the knots.
You shouldn't try to correct a surface (how level it is) by adding a casing. That's not what's its for. You can though, it's your tub, it may or may not help but ime it just costs time. I just don't like the effect it has.
As you already know cubes don't need a casing. In my room with my tubs a late casing is just to provide microclimate for knots to form pins so I don't have to worry about (over) misting due to conditions constantly changing.
The genetics in this MS tub is shit. I dropped a thin layer of only coir on this tub when it was covered with knots. I was able to mist if it needed me to without worrying about saturation or pooling between nooks n crannies.
Some tubs in make absolutely level and others I just make it good enough for govt work. This one falls into the other category.
I have noticed that this particular culture when fruited will leave behind knots that never form pins if I don't add the coir on top. Probably due to too dry or too wet surface conditions that I might overlook when managing over 20 tubs at a time. Late casing is like an assistant and the results are very consistent.
Edited by shevanel (05/13/20 08:15 AM)
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