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DMT and Syrian Rue Extraction questions and advice
#26666342 - 05/12/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey guys
Been a long time since I did an extraction for DMT
Only ever did it once
Used powder mimosa bark and used Cybs Hybrid Tek
Wasn't sure if I should just go with that again or try an STB method or what.
Cyb's seemed pretty straight forward but if anyone has suggestions or ideas to add please let me know.
I think last time I freezed the shredded bark overnight and then I boiled it in my water and vinegar solution and reduced to the 260ml it suggested in Cyb's Tek. Not sure those two steps are needed. I also used 100g bark instead of 50g and didn't change any other measurements for anything in the tek
Was thinking of combining this with a Syrian rue extraction I have never tried before
Was looking at the Tao of Rue extraction method and the harmalas extraction and separation guide on the DMT nexus
Seems like they are about the same steps
Was a little confused on what size jar I can use. Would a qt mason jar work or does it need to be bigger?
Seemed like basically you can use whatever amount of seeds, I was going to try 100-200g of seeds, sound good..? And just use the appropriate amount of needed salt and lye for the solution?
Didn't seem like it had specifics on the solution volumes.
I guess I am still a little confused by the Rue extraction even after reading it.
The end result I want to make some changa and have some harmalas to use in combination with mushrooms
Links to the Teks I'm using
Cyb's Hybrid Tek: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Cybs%27_Hybrid_ATB_%27Salt%27_Tek
Tao of Rue : https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/The_Tao_of_Rue_Extraction
Harmalas Extraction: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Harmalas_Extraction_and_Separation_Guide
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Re: DMT and Syrian Rue Extraction questions and advice [Re: Enkidu]
#26666675 - 05/12/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Stick with what you know, but it does sound like the Cyb tek uses a couple extra steps that aren't necessarily needed in say, the Q21Q21 A/B tek. Mainly the boiling and reducing step... If it's powderized, saturating the bark with vinegar should convert all the goodies to an acetate within minutes of being stirred. No need to boil and reduce in the q21q21 tek, you just stir the vinegar in and then get straight to basing with lime. And others use STB where they skip the acid step all together and get fine results. 
I don't think you can do the rue and dmt extractions in the same jar if that's what you meant. The concept is basically the same though. I personally hate extracting rue because if it's too fine it will clog filters and take multiple days to filter. I'd recommend raw seeds lightly crushed if you're extracting.
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Re: DMT and Syrian Rue Extraction questions and advice [Re: Icon]
#26666710 - 05/12/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I got raw seed right now in the freezer
Thanks for the response man
Cyb's Tek doesn't call for the freezing the powder or boiling with vinegar but I was recommended that before
I wasn't going to use the same jar for both extractions, I guess I wasn't sure if it would fit in a quart jar or not doing the rue extraction
As far as I can tell I can just reduce my "rue tea" in the big pot before I start to filter it using a QT jar?
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Re: DMT and Syrian Rue Extraction questions and advice [Re: Enkidu]
#26667739 - 05/13/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Keep in mind that wet rue seeds expand in volume once fully soaked with water. Easily 2x the dry volume. Use a big jar if you want to do 200g of seeds at once.
Boil the seeds in a crockpot three times, with fresh water each time, then filter out the seeds and filter the brew well. I'd filter before I reduce, not afterwards.
Don't spill any liquid! If you do, then wash away any dribbles immediately. Harmalas are used as dye and will stain/discolor your white kitchen quickly.
See the link in my siganture, extracting is easy to do.
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Re: DMT and Syrian Rue Extraction questions and advice [Re: Pandemoon]
#26667954 - 05/13/20 04:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I finally got around to mhrb extraction in the beginning of the year. After a loose read of various teks I went with NB's stb. Couldn't have gone any smoother and I honestly couldn't believe the results. SO if you're considering that, I'd highly recommend.
Pandemoon you're awesome, I have yet to extract harmalas but I read your link all the time.
This all makes me wish I paid more attention in chemistry.
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Re: DMT and Syrian Rue Extraction questions and advice [Re: seldom seen]
#26668020 - 05/13/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks guys

Ill read your link Pandemoon, thanks
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