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Tasmania ID Request
#26667879 - 05/13/20 02:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I found some samples today, I’m quite new to hunting but tried my best to get a variety of potential matches for future reference. (right to left of picture 1) I think the shrooms to the right are the most promising with purple gills, they’re a very light white/gold on top with a slightly darker nipple, white stem and purple/brown gills. To the left of them I found some similar shrooms in a bunch also but they were slightly darker with a shade of purple all over them and much purpler gills. I also found many of these thicker gold/brown top/gills shrooms with white/gold stems, some very small gold top/gilled shrooms with white stems and some other similar small shrooms with gold top/gills but a darker stem, they had a slight fattening in the stem near the top so I suspect they’re a look alike though.
Habitat: (Hobart) Bushland, a couple hours walk inland mostly up hill, most were found in moist areas with abundant wood debris with the purple gilled shrooms growing out of the bottom of a tree.
I’m waiting on spore prints and I’ll add some photos but I’m assuming the purple gilled shrooms would be most promising? On a side note I noticed some shrooms had bugs, does this matter when making the shrooms into a tea? Is it just “extra protein” if I turn a blind eye lol? Cheers.








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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: wedge77]
#26667895 - 05/13/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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We'll definitely need pictures before we can say anything sensible about your finds. The second ones you describe as overall purplish might be a species of Cortinarius.
Just make sure to post wel lit, clear and focused shots of all important details, including cap, gills and stem.
Follow this link to upload pictures. When uploaded, you will see a html code under each picture, just click this and it will be added to your paste board so you can paste the links directly into your post.
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Thanks a tonne for the info on how to upload images, i was struggling there for a minute lol. Cheers.
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: wedge77]
#26668040 - 05/13/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I also came across these shrooms in a similar area but thought they looked different to the others so I left them behind, after doing some searching on liberty caps they actually really look like some of the images I came across. I remember the location even though it’s pretty far out and could probably track them down again. Cheers.
Edited by wedge77 (05/13/20 06:17 AM)
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: wedge77]
#26668232 - 05/13/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello wedge77
None of your mushrooms look like Magic Mushrooms sorry, that includes your last picture upload. I've only seen liberty caps in the flesh once, but im 99% sure they don't look like that.
As a reference for you to keep in mind, the mushrooms you want to find should look like theses;

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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: blessed]
#26668243 - 05/13/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nothing active. Liberty caps doesn't look anything like your last photo. Wrong substrate and habitat too. You won't find them in the woods.
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Dang, we’ll at least I know what not to look for lol, thanks for the pictures, they will help quite a bit when I go for a second hunt. Cheers!
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: wedge77]
#26669799 - 05/14/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok guys round two, I got some samples today and all look quite similar with a few slight differences.
Firstly these ones were found together beside a tree in a small bunch, they’re all a slightly dull gold top that is flat with a small nipple, they have bruised blue with a white stem and creamy brown gills.

This second group was found with one by itself and the other three in a small moist barley patch, the ones that have been uprooted were already pulled out of the ground but left beside the track as if someone had already found them.. they are similar to the others but a slightly more vivid yellow/gold top that has a bit more rounded shape that the previous flat shrooms, with blue bruising, a white stem and creamy brown gills but ever so slightly lighter than the others. They also have a dark blueish tinge just around the edges of the cap.

Thirdly these ones were growing out the side of a burnt stump, they’re more distinctly dark on top but still a brown/gold colour, I haven’t noticed any bruising but the gills creamy with a green tinge in white lighting as my phone shows but less noticeable in my rooms yellow light. The stems are white the overall shape is similar to the last batch.

Lastly these couple were found separately, it might not be worth taking the risk when they’re so small? They look similar to the others though.

Hopefully I’m on the right track now? It took quite a while to track these suckers down, I’m curious about storage also, are they fine at room temperature for a few days or do they require refrigerating? Cheers.
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: wedge77]
#26669806 - 05/14/20 01:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pics #1 & 2 Look To Be Psilocybe Subaeruginosa.
Pics #3 & 4 Do Not, They Look To Be A Non Active Sp.
I'd Toss Any That Don't Show Obvious Blueish/Greenish Bruising Where Injured/Damaged.
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: MpSeph]
#26669870 - 05/14/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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wedge77, all your pictures are too dark, which makes identifying harder for us wanting to help you. Could you please re-take photo's of your latest find please. Make sure that it's a well lit room and then take pictures top down (like my first picture) and then with the stems closest to you with the under side of the cap showing (front on) and then just for extra sureness, a picture of the caps (as if looking down on the top of the mushroom)
Better pictures will result in better identification 
As of now i'd say that your first and second pictures are 90-99% sure magic mushrooms, problem is you don't want to experience what the 1-10% might be, or worse!!!
Edited by blessed (05/14/20 02:39 AM)
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: blessed]
#26669881 - 05/14/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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1 and 2 are all psilocybe subaeruginosa. 3 is hypholoma fasciculare. Can't id number 4 with certainty from that photo,but it's nothing active.
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I’m struggling with the lighting aha, natural light would be best if it wasn’t dark.. here’s some more photos anyway, I removed a couple shrooms for spore prints.
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I won’t worry about the small ones, thanks again for all your help guys!
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Quote:
Psilosadhu said: 1 and 2 are all psilocybe subaeruginosa. 3 is hypholoma fasciculare. Can't id number 4 with certainty from that photo,but it's nothing active.
Nothing changed. But you should use better lights.
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As for storage, I've never personally used the fridge (but have heard of it been done), I think it would be better to fan dry them for around 3-4 days then put them in a *airtight container. You'll need to use some dam rid product, just make sure that the damp rid itself doesn't come into contact with any mushroom.
Another option is to use a food dehydrator (on lowest heat settings). Using this method should dry your mushrooms within a day. Then place in container*
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: blessed]
#26670214 - 05/14/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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No they're not fine for 3-4 days in room temperature. You cann keep them for over a week in the fridge, but anything longer than that you'll have to dry them and store them in a freezer.
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Hi Psilosadhu
Wouldn't it be better in a airtight container? put away in some cupboard? That way it can stay stored for a year or more.
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: blessed]
#26670230 - 05/14/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You Can Dry Them 100% Cracker Dry & Store Them In The Freezer, Or Dry 100% Cracker Dry & Store Them In A Mason Jar. If You Store Them In A Mason Jar, Keep It In A Dark Place, Like A Drawer.
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: MpSeph]
#26670240 - 05/14/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've got much more room for a container in a drawer or cupboard then freezer space so it works better for me that way. Just one last question please. Won't it be hard to get some (but not all) frozen shrooms for a trip? they'd all be stuck together wouldn't they?
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: blessed]
#26670261 - 05/14/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You dry them 100% dry first. There's no water to make them freeze together. But one should freeze them in small bags, for example one trip per bag. Having mushrooms loose in a big box you open and close will expose your mushrooms to air and moisture. For best storage, small bags of cracker dry mushrooms in a plastic box in a freezer. Storing in room temperature is ok for shorter periods.
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Cool, thanks for that info .
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: wedge77]
#26670311 - 05/14/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
wedge77 said: Ok guys round two, I got some samples today and all look quite similar with a few slight differences.
Firstly these ones were found together beside a tree in a small bunch, they’re all a slightly dull gold top that is flat with a small nipple, they have bruised blue with a white stem and creamy brown gills.

This second group was found with one by itself and the other three in a small moist barley patch, the ones that have been uprooted were already pulled out of the ground but left beside the track as if someone had already found them.. they are similar to the others but a slightly more vivid yellow/gold top that has a bit more rounded shape that the previous flat shrooms, with blue bruising, a white stem and creamy brown gills but ever so slightly lighter than the others. They also have a dark blueish tinge just around the edges of the cap.

Thirdly these ones were growing out the side of a burnt stump, they’re more distinctly dark on top but still a brown/gold colour, I haven’t noticed any bruising but the gills creamy with a green tinge in white lighting as my phone shows but less noticeable in my rooms yellow light. The stems are white the overall shape is similar to the last batch.

Lastly these couple were found separately, it might not be worth taking the risk when they’re so small? They look similar to the others though.

Hopefully I’m on the right track now? It took quite a while to track these suckers down, I’m curious about storage also, are they fine at room temperature for a few days or do they require refrigerating? Cheers.
You have a mixed collection of Psilocybe subaeruginosa and Hypholoma fasciculare, the bluish bruising mushrooms in the 1st two pictures are Psilocybe subaeruginosa
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: Doc9151]
#26670339 - 05/14/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Freezer Shrooms Must Last A Long Ass Time, Because I've Got Some Cubes Still 100% Cracker Dry In A Mason Jar, In A Drawer, From 2 Seasons Ago & They Are Still Potent.
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: MpSeph]
#26670386 - 05/14/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, dried mushrooms in a freezer would last almost forever. Yes, they'd still be potent after a couple of seasons in room temperature, but less so. You'd loose quite a bit of potency. I prefer keeping my mushrooms at top quality. I don't see any reason for not keeping them in the freezer either.
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Some Folks Own Very Small Freezers. Myself Included. Not Enough Space For A Bunch Of Mushrooms.
Also, Not Everyone Shares The Fact That They Hunt Psilocybin Mushrooms To Friends & Family Members Who Might Also Open The Freezer. I Do, But Most Don't.
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: MpSeph]
#26670452 - 05/14/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd toss out that box of frozen lasagna, I value my mushrooms more than frozen supermarket food
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Ah, thanks for all the info guys, I reckon I’ll try these fresh but in future I’ll dry/freeze them as I recently coincidentally invested in a food dehydrator lol. I’m assuming zip lock bags would be just as effective in the freezer to save a bit of space also. Cheers.
Edit: I’ve washed them and put them in the dehydrator at 35c (The lowest setting, I’ve read that it’s fine) just wondering how long I should go for, with food I usually go 12-24 hours, any longer seems excessive..
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Re: Tasmania ID Request [Re: wedge77]
#26671774 - 05/15/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Small ziplock bags is the way to go. You could make powder before filling up your bags to save additional space. I would use a box for the bags anyway, as small ziplock bags floating freely around in the freezer could be messy. And, you'll find much more! As for drying, 35°C is fine, how long that'll take, no idea. Different dryers, different mushrooms etc. For normal sized panaeolus cyanescens I use 3-4 hours, for the fattest cubes it can take all night.
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Hey guys, after my last batch not seeming to be enough I decided to go hunting again, this time to a beach I was told about, I couldn’t find anything anywhere that was similar to my last batch but I did find a bunch eventually that look different to my last batch but still seem to fit the description. I can’t really see any blue bruising or a blue ring around the edges of these ones so I have my doubts but they look like other shrooms people have found so I thought it would be best to still ask. Sorry again for the lighting, I found them all in damp mossy areas with grass and fern shrubs growing near by with wood debris making it the typical environment, most were in small groups not far from one another, a meter give or take apart. They all have similar brown/gold tops that are darker in the canter, white stems and gills that are more tanned than my last batch. Cheers.









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