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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26617785 - 04/21/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It already looks much better.
I would pull the ones with black caps and weird color bodies.
When you spawn a tub adding a little layer of just coir ontop to cover the grains helps a lot too.
Honestly for a first grow with no top layer and no casing this is going very well. Second flush should be much nicer.
Just don’t go the other way and let it dry out now lol.
If you have access to jiffy 5050 sprinkling a very light layer all over would probably help.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26618503 - 04/21/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: It already looks much better.
I would pull the ones with black caps and weird color bodies.
If you have access to jiffy 5050 sprinkling a very light layer all over would probably help.

All done, thank you A.k.a! No stores had Jiffy so had to go with the competition. Pulled out the deceased and was too curious to not at least dissect them, they look partially scrumptious but a quick forum search shows it's probably too risky to digest.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight] 1
#26618529 - 04/21/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh I’d definitely eat them.
Was the stuff you used peat moss with ph adjusted?? And field cap?
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26618686 - 04/21/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Oh I’d definitely eat them.
Yay!
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A.k.a said: Was the stuff you used peat moss with ph adjusted?? And field cap?
Are you referring to Frank's writeup as jiffy 5050? Should've read this more thoroughly before rushing to the store...
Used Miracle Gro Seed Starting Mix: peat moss, perlite with fertilizer mix and wetting agent. Doesn't have lime, so must not be ph adjusted. Just sprinkled it from the bag and gave a careful even mist without overdoing it. The rest of tub appeared at field cap and not too wet/dry before the mix was applied and misted... so I think it's at field cap?
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26618700 - 04/21/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think that should be ok.
I’d spray it down VERY lightly. Next time get a bag or little tub and put some casing mix inside then wet it down. Squeeze it so it’s barely dripping then sprinkle it on.
I’ve also sprinkled it on dry then misted it down cuz it goes on level much easier dry.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26618720 - 04/21/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Whew.. yep only sprayed it very lightly. I assumed that since it was just a light sprinkle layer that field cap could be eyeballed but you're right it should done the proper way next time. Just gobbled up one of the fruits for kicks, nice n tasty!
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26618796 - 04/21/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol they can be pretty strong. Even knowing that I was still surprised the first time I ate some.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26623139 - 04/23/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Status update: For past few days have been very lightly misting once per day to watch and see how the tubs respond. Lids stay upside down for passive FAE most of the day, with the occasional few hours of lids completely off to see how they respond. Tub 1 (referenced in previous posts) is on the shelf below Tub 2, and gets slightly less direct light, but not by much.

Tub 1 (from previous posts) Fruits that were already slightly discolored continued to darken so these may have to be pulled soon. Pins keep coming. New fruit stems are whiter, but also showing signs of orange stem discoloration. Too much moisture still? Not enough FAE? Or something else I'm missing?


Tub 2 I can see some blueness in the stems, and caps are getting darker, but look plump. Some caps are opening up. The fruits look healthier but flush is not as full as Tub 1. Wondering the same about these too.

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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26624852 - 04/24/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Now noticing that the substrate is shrinking, is this an indication that it's too dry? The color keeps changing..
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight] 1
#26625024 - 04/24/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrinking is normal, the myc network can squeeze it together and then the fruits also suck up water and eat the sub.
I’d try cutting down on the air, the caps are drying out on some. A lot in the first one look aborted, I’d pull them out soon before they grow myc and start to rot or mold.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26625431 - 04/24/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Roger that. Pulled the aborted and reducing air. Thank you!
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26625446 - 04/24/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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His coir looks off. Like brown mold almost. I would move this one outside, cause it's getting strange.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sockadin]
#26626170 - 04/25/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I saw that too but assumed it was jiffy sprinkled on top.
If not definitely some odd things going down in there.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26632960 - 04/27/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I saw that too but assumed it was jiffy sprinkled on top.
If not definitely some odd things going down in there.
DAY 30 since spawn transfer
Tub 1


I pulled the aborted ones a couple days ago, and these new ones aren't looking much better. Some dark green discoloration on some of them... 

Tub 2
These ones look taller and better than the first

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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26632964 - 04/27/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey the new ones look much better. The ones towards the edges that are healthy colored. That one close up small one is dead.
Are you sure this isnt PEu?
I didn’t realize PEu had blue/grey caps a lot.
I was looking through PEu grows earlier and I’m almost positive that’s what this is. The shape and the two tone caps.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26633090 - 04/27/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Hey the new ones look much better. The ones towards the edges that are healthy colored. That one close up small one is dead.
Are you sure this isnt PEu?
I didn’t realize PEu had blue/grey caps a lot.
I was looking through PEu grows earlier and I’m almost positive that’s what this is. The shape and the two tone caps.
Thanks, and you're right it is indeed PE Uncut! I retitled the thread for clarity. I'll keep plucking the dead ones. I read from sources like here that this variety aborts frequently. On the plus side choosing this variety for a first time grow is certainly good practice for managing expectations. I hope to be pleasantly surprised with how well the next grow with GT goes compared to this.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26633787 - 04/28/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol yeah gt will go much better I bet, especially now that you’ve got this experience.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26637122 - 04/29/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A slight foul smell as taken over these tubs. Don't these look too dry? The healthiest ones look a bit shriveled up in tub 2. Keep getting aborts in tub 1. Many opened caps already. Maybe it's time to harvest these and start a new flush?
Tub 1

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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
#26637127 - 04/29/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I’d pull all those off at this point.
The couple new ones in the second tub look pretty healthy still so I’d clear off all that crap and wait for new healthy ones.
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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
#26667632 - 05/12/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day 45
Tubs decommissioned from production. Over the past couple of days all 3 of the tubs (yeah started a third) they succumbed to what appeared to be trichoderma:

Got a slightly larger fruited harvest from flush #2 but it was short lived and only yielded about 1.25oz dry this time. My calcs tell me that with total harvest 40oz wet * 7% = 80g dry from 2 tubs with 1 coir brick each then the BE is at 29%... still got a long ways to go before reaching 100%+ BE with them gorgeous full canopies!
Honestly at this point just happy to have gotten the experience and rather eager to move onto the next variety (GT) that will likely be easier to grow higher yield at current skill level. Big shout out to my sweat equity knowledge investors (A.k.a.) for sponsoring this noob's takeoff.
Have about 14 trays of myceliated agar and understand that will need to create a master grain jar next. Will have to do more research but sounds like the fullest tray should be the trait to select for, yes? If so, here are the winners of the bunch (some trays have vertically growing mycelium, so also wondering if they should be put in the fridge until ready for use:
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