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Re: Syrian Rue / Harmine FB and Shrooms [Re: Padrey] * 2
    #26725667 - 06/07/20 05:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So after a few experiments I've come to the conclusion that Rue / Harmalas + Shrooms is absolutely heavenly and terrifying.  I did notice a distinct lack of body load from the mushrooms when combined with rue or harmala, I'm not sure why. Definitely increases the length of the trip and strengthens the visual effects. Didn't notice a particularly stronger mental trip from adding rue / harmalas.

2g rue , 3g dry cubensis tea. Most noticeable thing from this experience was extreme auditory hallucinations, I more or less heard music change. Albums that I've heard quite a few times had extremely tactile differences. Literally heard additional notes and chords that were not there. Not sure if it was just subliminally perceptional or if I was hearing frequencies that are normally muted.  Total duration : 6 1/2 hours

1.5g rue , 100mg oral Harmine FB mixed in a shot of OJ + 4.5g dry cubensis tea. Followed by 35mg-50mg harmine FB topped on a bowl of herb during peak. Smoking the harmine gave me extreme visual degradation that pretty much just caused all visual input to be an incomprehensible blur. (I do have eye sight issues so that my play a role in this. Acute Amblyopia and red-green color deficiency) Auditory hallucinations definitely reoccured. Heard music change again but completely different notes / chords this time. I personally don't like this aspect. Total duration was about 7 1/2 hours

The biggest thing I took away is it personally adds a layer of sensory degradation to my experience. Good or bad thats for you to decide.  My next attempt will be in complete darkness and silence to see if auditory hallucinations still persist to the same degree.


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Re: Syrian Rue / Harmine FB and Shrooms [Re: Padrey] * 1
    #26726589 - 06/07/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

True needs time for its magic to work fully- next time take it by itself half an hour to 45 minutes before the shroom tea, at least the oral dosage. You can encapsulate it to hide the horrid taste, and drink a bit of soda or something to mask the occasional rue burp lol.

This will give it time to properly block the receptors in your gut.


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Re: Syrian Rue / Harmine FB and Shrooms [Re: Psion]
    #26727140 - 06/07/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I waited time it took to smoke a bowl. Then pour n boil a pot of water and make a tea. It was roughly 30 minutes.


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Re: Syrian Rue / Harmine FB and Shrooms [Re: Padrey]
    #26727279 - 06/07/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Padrey said:
Yeah I waited time it took to smoke a bowl. Then pour n boil a pot of water and make a tea. It was roughly 30 minutes.




An hour between the Rue and mushy tea or DMT-containing tea is better.


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Re: Syrian Rue / Harmine FB and Shrooms [Re: Sabnock]
    #27927916 - 08/31/22 05:39 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Sabnock, i think i have found the thread, i definitely found the man...

i got that d-limonene you recommended (it will last a long time), so here it is;

i'm frugal (and poor) got that 20$ harmine/harmaline fb from amazon, never done it, i might have a little over 2 dry grams for tea (my dual-chamber terrarium is killing it)... my wife is out town this weekend, so it's just me and the 4 cats...

please advice.


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Re: Syrian Rue / Harmine FB and Shrooms [Re: orphee]
    #27930147 - 09/02/22 06:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Of pure harmala freebase you need like 150 to 200 mg oraly to get a good potentiation. With raw rue seeds 2 to 3 grams is good.

But with harmala FB no more than 200mg is needed (that's .2g).


Swallow the harmalas in a capsule (or "bomb" them stuffed up in a cigarette paper if you don't have capsuls on hand), then wait 30 to 45min until you eat /drink your mushrooms.
The mushrooms will be noticably stronger, different, mentaly more eye opening and lasting a lot longer than usual. Keep that in mind.
I had lemonTEK trips last up to 10 hours with the help of some predosed harmalas. :rockon:


See here, a pretty long and good thread about that topic: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23137020

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Re: Syrian Rue / Harmine FB and Shrooms [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27930377 - 09/02/22 10:16 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I find 200mg a bit much, prefer 150-180ish mg.


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