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Spawning ATL for bigger stones
    #26666641 - 05/12/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So I've got about 30 jars of MS ATL on oats. (36 but I'm saving 6 to open at the 6 month mark, 30 remain for experimentation.)

10 of these jars I plan to shake up then leave in jars to test whether moving existing stones to the middle and opening up more side space for new stones results in noticeably larger yield. (If it works I name it The Metaphoric Method.)

10 I'm going to leave alone as a sort of control group.

10 I'm going to spawn to fruiting containers. I've read a lot of truffle grow logs and it seems like people who leave the truffles when they try to fruit end up doubling their stone weight after 3 weeks or so.

My question is does it matters what I spawn them to? I have all these plastic 1 quart Chinese soup takeout containers I want to use. The only downside I see is small surface area for fruits but I don't really care about the fruits, they're just a bonus. My main focus for these 10 jars is bolstering truffle yield. Thoughts?


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: metaphoric]
    #26666728 - 05/12/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’m just here to see what happens, I’m cleaning up my first stone producers on agar now.


How come you’re not interested in the fruits?? They’re supposed to be at least double cube potency.

lol we’re in this for opposite reasons, I’m mostly in it for the mushrooms.


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: A.k.a]
    #26666758 - 05/12/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It shouldn't matter what containers you spawn them to. I recently spawned a few quarts to a 5 gallon bucket of coir just for the hell of it, let it sit for a few weeks, then broke it up and harvested the stones. Didn't weigh the total yeild but it was enough to last me a while :wink: but I also think you should go for fruits, they are fairly simple and I prefer them to the stones


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: RiverBum]
    #26666946 - 05/12/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Glad to have you along aka, your contributions on the forum are always a welcome sight.

River, to clarify, were there already stones in the jars and did you mix them into the bucket with the rest of the spawn?

It's not that I don't want fruits too, I'm just trying to take things 1 step at a time. And that next step's name is huge truffle yield! I want an unlimited personal supply dried, ground, and capsulated.


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: metaphoric]
    #26666963 - 05/12/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Heya! Heres how i spawned my truffles a few weeks ago. I emptied the jars out into a monotub and with a sterilized spoon i picked out the huge ones that i wanted to keep right away. Then i cased the tub as per violets tek and set the tub aside. I harvested 30gs of fresh truffles and found that they keep fresh in the fridge for up to a month. I just now finished them(they were great btw) and when i checked back on the tub there are sizable stones poking through the casing layer. My goal is to get it to fruit so i can get a good print and ill lyk how that goes but i hope this helps.


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: CalicoCap]
    #26666985 - 05/12/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So the stones from the jar continue to grow after being broken up and spawned to coir?


That means that shaking the jar should definitely work metaphoric.  Might be worth leaving extra room in the jars so they can fill up and be shaken a few times.


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: A.k.a]
    #26667003 - 05/12/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Wow Cali definitely keep me updated on final yield! To clarify, you put a casing layer on straight grains right? You didn't bulk it out with coir? That's what I'm looking to do to.

Yeah aka I'm pumped, it'd be cool to have a method named after you, even if it's not used much.

Edit: oh and you really don't need much free space if you're okay with putting in serious work mixing it up. My trick is put smacking it against my girl's rubber boot heel, laying on its side.
It doesn't make sense for cubes because you turn over jars pretty quickly but I think it's worth the effort for stones which will be in there for months. Mine as I think you've seen are 95% full and my initial shake still resulted in perfectly even distribution.


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: metaphoric]
    #26667083 - 05/12/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

metaphoric said:
River, to clarify, were there already stones in the jars and did you mix them into the bucket with the rest of the spawn?



Yes there were stones in the jars, I always just mix the sclerotia in with the substrate when I spawn


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Re: Spawning ATL for bigger stones [Re: metaphoric]
    #26667102 - 05/12/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ill post some pics later! So mixing is not the way to go imo. Im not the one to ask on why but my guess is that ita such a slow colonizer that ita better to just case it. Ive done both and personally perfer just cading. My tub was from just 4 quarts so you can make quite a few tubs.
Aka: yes they do! Its like catch and release, they only get bigger the more time. As for shaking them up in the jars i use lc and perfer to shake it once. I think stones don't really mind being spaced together and have seen them kinda eat up the space aroud them. After 12 weeks ide try spawning because you can give them a fresh container and they seem to grow faster that way.

Also they tend to grow on the small pebbles that tend to come in coir so BE CAREFUL when trying to blend up dried truffles.

Edit: ide take rivers advice over mine! I only have 3 stone grows under my belt.
Final yield on the tub was 60 dry


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