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Ahh let’s not get dogmatic or unnecessarily hostile on a brotha. People do things differently sometimes. A lot of people that are daily active on here are true growers. In a groove of what works well to put up serious grows and control genetics in the most efficient (and rewarding;) ) ways. But sometimes the end goal is something totally different than what we’re used to seeing on here. This guy is producing spore syringes instead of tons of mush. It’s all good
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Hey shroom2020
Thanks! Very interesting and helpful. I appreciate the creativity and the wisdom from your experience.
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Re: How I do my prints. Straight into half-pints. [Re: shroom2020]
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I don’t like the invitro idea either. It would theoretically get you sterile prints if you didn’t mess up but it would take a container with plenty of extra space for fruits to be able to grow normally and not smashed up against something, and you have to make sure you get enough fresh air in there.
I like the idea of just hitting the cap with a ziplock before the veil breaks and your 4 hour “pre print” is something I’ve never even considered before but I like it.
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#26664277 - 05/11/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroom2020 said: Close-up with flame sterilized straightend fish-hook handle on cap. Handle definately wouldn' fit in petri dish.

U use a fish hook? This is getting too weird. I bought a three-prong fish hook to hang the shroom cap on. Never used it thou but that was the idea i came up with. Also thought of using s "straight hook" aka a harpoon barb but not sure if i could find a "hook sidez" harpoon to use 
This is too weird....whats cool is i can use my already modified PF tek jars and just place some micropore over the four holes and the cap is ready for printing! Its not 100% clean but its much more cleaner than open air printing, I'll tell ya that!
My next upgrade is angled tweezers to place/remove the cap to/from the glass jar 
Yeah i love PF Tek. The prep is so easy and i can easily grow enough for myself with 6-12 cakes using multispore. Its great. Cant beat the simplicity of it.
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Re: How I do my prints. Straight into half-pints. [Re: shroom2020]
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Oh damn, did u straighten out the fish hook? 
Those medical tweezers are legit
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Awesome. Time for me to shop high-tech torches
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LogicaL Chaos said: Awesome. Time for me to shop high-tech torches 
LC I was talking about you in this thread yesterday now you're here lmao.
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I know! Synchronicity 2020 here we go!
9 day colonization times? Thats insane! 
What is the bricks for on top?
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#26664739 - 05/11/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks like u have done extensive research on PF cake growing! Well done
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Re: How I do my prints. Straight into half-pints. [Re: shroom2020]
#26667106 - 05/12/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroom2020 said: I tend to do one small grow every two years to make fresh prints. I haven't pushed it further but am saving some now for 5 year and ten year tests. Usually I just wash out the old ones and start over at two years. Better safe than sorry. If I only had to do a grow once a decade that would be sort of cool to know as well. I will believe it when I do it.
At least 4 of the strains I have are total winners. I don't ever want to lose them. PESA, AA+, S.A. Transkei and Ecuador. The first three for potency, speed of cultivation, volume of harvest combo. The last for best OEV. 5 grams of Ecuador gives me the craziest OEV but yeild less for me and takes the longest. 5g is my go-to test dose. None of the other three are far behind though.
I used to own a Cambo strain from that was just insanely potent but I didn't preserve the spores. They were very tall with thin white stalks and very dark coffee-colored caps. When I've replaced it with somebody else's Cambo it has not even been close to the same thing. A decade later I still mourn that loss. If you have special spores you love then replenish them as appropriate. You might never get the same thing again.
For the record, I used to use a tub-in-tub incubator set at 81F for colonization. I don't anymore. While I could get full colonization as early as 9 days in using the tub-in-tub it only takes about three days longer at my room temp of 74F. The jars really do heat themselves up above room temp as they colonize. Tub is so not worth the effort. Maybe if your room was only 65F it might be.
Unless your working with an isolate or clone though your potency and growth speed and such can vary (or spores from such would count I think)
Also my bad on the in vitro part I forgot to Include if you add a layer of MP tape to your PF jar then you can leave room at the top for regular sized mushrooms if you use a taller jar but still fill with same amount of substrate
And actually yes I have seen some smaller scale commercial spore vendors produce prints that way, they still line all the caps out on sterilized foil inside a SAB or in front of a flow hood though
And nobody is saying your way isnt good we're just providing constructive criticism for options to consider for potentially improving since all of us can always improve more
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Je77Ce11ar said: First of all never said nor implied that commercial dealers make guaranteed syringes. Youre getting pretty boo boo over the fact that several ppl besides myself pointed out that your methodoly is awkward. You admitted that you only make a cpl rounds of cakes every other year, where i imagine the ppl that have questioned your methods (including myself) grow lbs every month.
Kudos if youre tickled pink with how you do things, but dont shed tears when more experienced ppl point out the weak spots in your process.
I have 15 years experience. Period. No, I''ll say it again. 15 years. I can grow as many pounds as I like. I stopped growing weight a couple years ago and that's why I'm comfortable to post now. I'm un-bustable or at least "I can do the time." You are an idiot to broadcast to the world that you continuously break the law by growing pounds. Idiots are not good mentors. Idiots that are likely young enough to be my grand-child even less so.
How many more decades do I need to be "experienced"? That's rhetorical. I won't respond to you again. It's you I don't like not any other posters. Good spore suppliers do guarantee their spore syringes just as I do. How many grams did you eat tonight? That's rhetorical too. Sorry, I just don't think you can personally teach me anything. Thanks for coming out!
I don't think he ever said that he himself grows pounds just that some people on here do and that's not advertising it, it's just a fair assumption since were on the cultivation of magic mushrooms forum and not gourmet and medicinal mushrooms forum and when we have members posting teks and such with the obvious know how and capability to grow that much then it's a fair assumption (just my 2 cents)
Also farther up you said you won't sell spores to anybody in this site and I think that's rude to discredit a whole website of great people just cause of a few misunderstandings
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Re: How I do my prints. Straight into half-pints. [Re: DnDRnD]
#26667192 - 05/12/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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i wont sell any spores to anyone on here either. ever no matter what.
cuz il give them to ppl for free if i feel they sincerely want to use them
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