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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26661927 - 05/10/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I ride a motorcycle without a helmet. I give a fuck about covid or slowing its spread. Let the world do its thing


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26661979 - 05/10/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No way. Years before this I felt like mandetory inoculation wasn't far away and I've been planning an escape ever since. Haven't been inoculated since I was a kid, don't take any pills including asprine and I'm sick once every few years with a sinus infection. Probably only had a true flu a few times in my life. I don't need anything unnatural to be healthy.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: GreenHorns] * 2
    #26661983 - 05/10/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They should slow the spread of soda and salty snacks fried in oil. Probably would save a lot more lives


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: bodhisatta] * 3
    #26661992 - 05/10/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
If I were as unhealthy as you I would feel the same way. It's not my job to burden society because I'm more fragile



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I ride a motorcycle without a helmet. I give a fuck about covid or slowing its spread. Let the world do its thing





Well at least your disregard for others is matched with a like disregard of the self.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: Asante]
    #26661998 - 05/10/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Live each day like your last.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26662004 - 05/10/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If I did I would be dead already.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26662016 - 05/10/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn't I'm not the right demographic for it, they should start at those most at risk care homes etc. They have the most to gain and the least to lose.

Two ways to deal with this problem let it spread and then it's likely subsequent infections wont be nearly as dangerous (basically why flu/cold's killed the ancient South Americans but not the Spanish who brought it over).

Or vaccinate everyone.

It's like Chicken Pox where the US chooses to vaccinate everyone and Europe prefers to have children driven endemic spread (which reinforces adult populations immunity - just like vaccines).

If you stop vaccinating or slow down the endemic waves you get a shingles outbreak. It's almost never as clear cut as Twitter makes it out as Vaccines are Evil or Vaccines are Awesome.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: Fiery]
    #26662030 - 05/10/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What's the alternative to receiving a vaccine injection for SARS-CoV-2, contracting Covid-19?  Hell yes, I will take the injection!


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: singlet_oxygen]
    #26662047 - 05/10/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Whats the story behind your intrigueing username?  :alchemist:


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: Asante]
    #26662058 - 05/10/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What's the alternative to receiving a vaccine injection for SARS-CoV-2, contracting Covid-19?  Hell yes, I will take the injection!




The worry is it's not an alternative and you can catch covid-19 despite having had the vaccine :wink:


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Whats the story behind your intrigueing username?  :alchemist:




Just needed a good name :smile: http://www.calstatela.edu/dept/chem/selke/r-1.htm Also sounds like it might be something cool. According to that link it's an excited form of O2 that glows red as it decays to regular O2.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: singlet_oxygen]
    #26662084 - 05/10/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am seriously considering guinea pigging it if I came across a trial in my area.


I actually looked into volunteering for Upenn's vaccine program, but they're no longer recruiting for it.


Just feels like a way I can actually kind of make some kind of a difference, give back. I'm technically an 'essential' worker, but it's all done from home, I haven't even had to step foot in a grocery store. Part of me feels super guilty about all that.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26662118 - 05/10/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I am seriously considering guinea pigging it if I came across a trial in my area.


I actually looked into volunteering for Upenn's vaccine program, but they're no longer recruiting for it.


Just feels like a way I can actually kind of make some kind of a difference, give back. I'm technically an 'essential' worker, but it's all done from home, I haven't even had to step foot in a grocery store. Part of me feels super guilty about all that.





If that's the case it makes no sense to give it to you. It makes sense to give it to young people who are likely going to be exposed to the virus to test it works.

Or old people who might die if they get the virus.

But it makes no sense to give it to you who isn't exposed and presumably isn't at risk!


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: singlet_oxygen]
    #26662127 - 05/10/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I mean, this is just the safety trial, not the efficacy trial.


So for the purpose of the study, yes it does make complete sense.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: singlet_oxygen]
    #26662128 - 05/10/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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But it makes no sense to give it to you who isn't exposed and presumably isn't at risk!





I get where you are going with this.  My concern would be that those who are more vulnerable to the virus might be infected by asymptomatic carriers or those for which the virus poses very little risk.  Wouldn't it be better to vaccinate everyone?


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #26662138 - 05/10/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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How is a substance that modifies genetic code anywhere near the same as one that triggers a response from receptors? The RCs you take mimic other things you body produces, a vaccine introduces new variables. These vaccines aren't going through thousands and thousands of people and in certain cases they actually make it easier for the virus in question to infect someone to a greater degree.




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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: Asclepius]
    #26662170 - 05/10/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I get where you are going with this.  My concern would be that those who are more vulnerable to the virus might be infected by asymptomatic carriers or those for which the virus poses very little risk.  Wouldn't it be better to vaccinate everyone?




The situation is still evolving so I don't think it makes sense to vaccinate everyone just yet for three main issues

  • Is the vaccine effective?
  • Is the vaccine safe?
  • Is it available?


It it's not effective then it's not worth giving it to anyone. But we haven't tested the vaccine yet and there are dozens we are testing so we don't even have a "good bet" yet.

Is the vaccine safe? If it's not safe they it might make sense to limit to those where COVID-19 is so dangerous it's worth the risk of the vaccine.

Is the vaccine available? We will probably be able to produce ~10 million doses by the end of the year (based on what a manufacturers is claiming - warning they are lobbying for contracts and might be overestimating and its for the "Oxford vaccine" which doesn't use the same technology as all the other candidates). If we only have 10 million vaccines then we need to be selective about who gets it. There's no point vaccinating me when there is a 55 year old who's life might be saved by being vaccinated.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: singlet_oxygen]
    #26662184 - 05/10/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If we only have 10 million vaccines then we need to be selective about who gets it. There's no point vaccinating me when there is a 55 year old who's life might be saved by being vaccinated.





You're absolutely right about that!  I am only stating what I think the (hypothetically most beneficial) end goal should be. It will take time for enough vaccine doses to be rolled out.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: HamHead]
    #26662216 - 05/10/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Why no poll?

I STAL!!!



Agreed, this thread failed due to the lack of a poll.


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: Fiery] * 1
    #26662232 - 05/10/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I 've shared needles with hookers. I don't give a shit about covid if anything covid should fear coming in contact with me


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Re: Will YOU get the injected vaccine when it's available? [Re: 1uptoadstool] * 3
    #26662425 - 05/10/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yup by the time a vaccine is available I'll be getting it in a heartbeat. I have copd  and a bad immune system, my dad has interstitial lung disease both have asthma and not in any position to get this in our family. Mom is a 3 time cancer survivor. It could easily kill all of us. When the vaccine comes out I'll take it first before them but not by much.


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