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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: budmanman]
    #26661420 - 05/10/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

what a clever system they built for us :cookiemonster:


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
    #26661426 - 05/10/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They didn't build it for us, they got involved with fiat money so that they could take out loans any time they needed to feed dumb fucks like you when your homeless with food stamps.

Anytime something doesn't go right they take out a loan and guess what every single country on Earth is doing this but they attempt to avoid taking out loans if they can because it comes back to bite you in the end.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: budmanman]
    #26661428 - 05/10/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

so you are not in favor of helping people with food stamps if they are enduring economic hardships?


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26661429 - 05/10/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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so you are not in favor of helping people with food stamps if they are enduring economic hardships?




Wait I thought the economy wasn't a thing that mattered?


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26661430 - 05/10/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

also, taxes do help pay for welfare programs.. and maybe there would be more money to distribute if we taxed the wealthy at higher rates. don the con trump says he doesnt pay taxes. thats fair, right?


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26661438 - 05/10/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Dude the taxes don't even cover the interest our national debt is accruing anymore.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: budmanman]
    #26661439 - 05/10/20 01:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/06/803399172/mississippis-ex-welfare-director-5-others-arrested-in-massive-fraud

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Mississippi's former welfare director, four colleagues and a former pro wrestler have been charged with carrying out a multimillion-dollar embezzlement scheme to siphon public money from needy families for their own personal use





yeah blame people for using food stamps to buy necessities.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: budmanman]
    #26661440 - 05/10/20 01:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

OP is depending on taxation while simultaneously denying the economy has an impact on this.


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Invisiblesplit_by_nine
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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26661441 - 05/10/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

im not depending on it. i was eligible for it because i earned [X] amount of dollars over the last 12 months.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26661446 - 05/10/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

im not in denial about the economy. i dont think people should buy $900 smart phones and $300 nike sneakers. but they do and they use credit to do it. now they are suffering :shrug:


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26661463 - 05/10/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

After being eligible you also need the money to be there. It either A comes from loans or B a storage of funds. Unemployment normally comes from a tax corporations pay. When their fund hits a certain amount, their tax goes down. This is incentive to not lay off, fire etc employees and creates a fall back for if the company goes under or has to do a lay off.

Right now at a state level, they are taking out laons to fund the unemployment because its never been slammed like this in its history. 

The majority of people have a very very fucked future ahead.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: budmanman]
    #26661470 - 05/10/20 02:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i guess time will tell. ill try to stay optimistic.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26661480 - 05/10/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Its already bad, my work called everyone back, but 50% of the employees are committing fraud and collecting unemployment and saying they are not refusing work from their employer, because the unemployment is more than they are making at work lol.

They're going to go through all these peoples accounts at some point and catch them when they verify this shit and its a fucking felony offense.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: budmanman]
    #26661481 - 05/10/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i dont doubt that.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26661621 - 05/10/20 04:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Landlords want their money.

People have been out of work, not making money.

Do some math here.

I'll be a dick.

Many people were already living paycheck to paycheck before shutting down.

And $1,200 is an insult, considering it's our fucking tax dollars, that will be asked for back next year when filing taxes.

For a misleading doc saying two million will perish.

All while numbers add up and reveal a death rate somewhere between .11-.22%.




The $1200 is COMPLETELY tax free. If you read something different, then you have been reading some wack job websites.

But other than that, there is a completely valid argument here. What are the human costs of the disease vs the economic shutdown? The problem is that the experts can make much more educated guesses about the economic side than the medical side. That's why there is so much controversy about reopening.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: budmanman]
    #26661745 - 05/10/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Dude our government now owes more money than exists in the form of USD lol,




Ever since that very first $1 bill.

Fucking amazing, isn't it?


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: HamHead]
    #26661751 - 05/10/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

even when money was based on the gold supply, the value was still made up. earth metals are no more than just that. humans gave value to gold the same way they give value to fiat money. its all make believe.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26661929 - 05/10/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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im simply saying america has enough food and wealth to pass around but they dont because they are greedy :shrug:

i hope we all make it through this bullshit, but i dont think unenployment is worse than corona virus because you can find a way to survive unemployment. you cant find a way to survive corona




Can't find a way to survive corona?  This is insanity.  Many are absolutely unaffected by corona.  This is not a severe illness.  Almost everyone who gets corona survives it.  They throw big death tolls at you to scare you with numbers, nevermind the fact that there are over 7000000000 people on the planet.

No one is arguing if the world economy is equitable, but I believe most people in oppressed regions would still like the opportunity to earn income and survive vs not.  They could probably give a fuck about some privileged elite telling them their sustenance needs to be removed for philosophical reasons.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 2
    #26662280 - 05/10/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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What are people going to do when nobody is hiring employees because it's cheaper to automate, customers don't want to risk coming in, and it becomes cost prohibitive to employee people?

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Retail workers are like 10 percent of the population. Most jobs don't involve face to face interaction with customers and those that do can spring for 20 dollars worth of plexi-glass. The world isn't going to end and you will be black to slaving in a exploitative capitalist system that doesn't value you soon enough. If your job can be automated it will be, virus or not.

Yes it sucks all the bars and restaurants are shut down but the industrial plaza I work in is full of vehicles and people, every day, its just less visible than shut down retail locations. Not everyone is out of work, far from it, and the people working will just have to support those that aren't with their tax dollars until its over. I haven't missed a day, I haven't taken one cent of a government handout. Unemployment in my area is 13 percent. Lots of people have transitioned to working for home too.



Government has nothing but money, you just got suckered into believing it needs the money to buy bombs and war machines instead of hospitals and school lunches.


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Re: well.. im back to work monday [Re: viraldrome]
    #26662296 - 05/10/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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