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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26660321 - 05/09/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I do not want that to have to be my option, if something bad were to happen next time, the case will not be dismissed the 2nd time around. It was 50% luck that that was even an option the first time and now I have way more to lose than I did back then. I became somebody back then I just partied my shit hole dick hole off and the most I had to lose was a small collection of cars, a big screen tv and an apartment.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26660328 - 05/09/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



insane person getting fired for making borderline threats of violence


it's happening


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26660333 - 05/09/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What a retard he just lost his job and will never work in that field ever again. How do lawyers make these kinds of mistakes?

Also he will probably now go on an actual mass shooting, he has nothing to live for now his career is gone.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26660373 - 05/09/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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budmanman said:
People are being arrested for not social distancing lol, let me guess, you are ok with this?




I've never been more okay with anything in my life.  Pre-corona, people would always stand creepily close to you.  There's nothing worse than waiting in line to pay at Walgreens and have someone literally breathing down your neck and coughing in your face.  I hope people keep their goddamn distance into the future too.  People are fucking disgusting.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #26660376 - 05/09/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26660416 - 05/09/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Flattening the curve doesn't prevent anyone from dying, it just shifts the date several months out, maybe years in some instances unless you flatten it all the damn way to a vaccine which to do safely takes years.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26660418 - 05/09/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
Even if it HAD been 80k in 3 months which is wasnt, THOSE NUMBERS REFLECT MORTALITY WITH ZERO SOCIAL CONTROLS. The covid numbers reflect mortality with them

This is seriously not complicated





COVID death numbers are disingenuous. 

Dr Ngozi Ezike, Illinois Department of Public Health:
"I just want to be clear in terms of the definition of "people dying of covid." The case definition is very simplistic, it means at the time of death it was a covid-positive diagnosis. Thats means that if you were in a hospice and had already been given- you know a few weeks to live and you were also found to have covid it would also be counted as a covid death. That means if um technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause but you had COVID at the time it's still listed as a covid death. So um everyone who is listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that COVID was the cause of death, but that they had COVID at the time of death. I hope that's helpful."


full press conference, at 21:30:




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Exactly my brothers son needs brain surgery or he will die by the time has 10 now they can't do it and they're terrified that brain damage will get worse and the seizures might kill him and although they aren't happy with it they understand why it's happening. Child brain surgery is not something you do if they can't guarantee he won't die of COVID in an already risky complicated risky surgery




Are you serious?  There are newborn infants recovering from COVID and instead of getting a needed brain surgery, your nephew's going to get brain damage because you think he might die from something he hasn't even caught???


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26660428 - 05/09/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Found budmanman on Twitter



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 1
    #26660435 - 05/09/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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MrBlueYoMind said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
Even if it HAD been 80k in 3 months which is wasnt, THOSE NUMBERS REFLECT MORTALITY WITH ZERO SOCIAL CONTROLS. The covid numbers reflect mortality with them

This is seriously not complicated





COVID death numbers are disingenuous. 

Dr Ngozi Ezike, Illinois Department of Public Health:
"I just want to be clear in terms of the definition of "people dying of covid." The case definition is very simplistic, it means at the time of death it was a covid-positive diagnosis. Thats means that if you were in a hospice and had already been given- you know a few weeks to live and you were also found to have covid it would also be counted as a covid death. That means if um technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause but you had COVID at the time it's still listed as a covid death. So um everyone who is listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that COVID was the cause of death, but that they had COVID at the time of death. I hope that's helpful."






No that's not actually helpful.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26656003#26656003


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: feevers]
    #26660442 - 05/09/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I mean that was a literal quote from a public health official, not my opinion.

Here's one where she says more than 90% of the COVID deaths had prior health conditions. 



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: feevers]
    #26660450 - 05/09/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes



Media source for the 80,000 for that winter flu season

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26660458 - 05/09/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't want to catch this shit.  It's a real virus and it randomly fucks some people up.  But to pretend that the numbers being used aren't disingenuous is absurd. 

She literally said "That means if um technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause but you had COVID at the time it's still listed as a covid death. So um everyone who is listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that COVID was the cause of death, but that they had COVID at the time of death"


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #26660463 - 05/09/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You said the numbers are disingenuous and put up a quote trying to claim they're overcounted. The data we have says if anything they're undercounted, especially since many nursing home and at-home deaths are not counted in most places still, and that's where a large percentage occur.

Pre-existing conditions have nothing to do with the exponential increase in all-cause mortality.

If I have lung cancer and get hit by a bus, we don't blame the lung cancer.

Pre-existing conditions are not death sentences and most people in the country have at least one.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: feevers]
    #26660470 - 05/09/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

feevers said:

If I have lung cancer and get hit by a bus, we don't blame the lung cancer.
.




:cookiemonster:


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: feevers]
    #26660477 - 05/09/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I said the numbers are disingenuous, because they are.  If you are counted as a covid death despite a clear other reason for death, then that number is disingenuous.  The fact that there are people who are dying of it and not being counted doesn't negate the inaccuracy of the recorded numbers.  The public health official literally said just because it's listed as a covid death doesn't mean the cause of death is covid.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26660481 - 05/09/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
Quote:

feevers said:

If I have lung cancer and get hit by a bus, we don't blame the lung cancer.
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:cookiemonster:




According to the public health official, if a person is in hospice and has weeks to live and then is diagnosed with covid after that fact and they die, they are counted as a covid death.  So the reality is contradicting your position.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26660484 - 05/09/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26660486 - 05/09/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

None of that negates the fact that the recorded numbers are disingenuous.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #26660489 - 05/09/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: feevers]
    #26660492 - 05/09/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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feevers said:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/04/20/covid-count

https://www.businessinsider.com/yale-study-excess-deaths-nearly-twice-official-covid-19-count-2020-4?amp

Fact check: Is US coronavirus death toll inflated? Experts agree it's likely the opposite
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2973481001

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/failure-to-count-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-could-dramatically-skew-us-numbers-137212




My wife works at a nursing home and they have been working closely with the CDC this entire time. The CDC diagnosed 100% of the residents and staff with Covid before the tests were even done lol, though in the end 100% of people did catch it.

They've been recording all covid activity this entire time.

But the Media told you different and you believed it.


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