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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26658240 - 05/08/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, they're both viruses.
Why don't you explain why it won't go away before make believing I "can't rationally see that"?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26658249 - 05/08/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Viruses are here to stay. They mutate and evolve and find new hosts all the time.
Tis the seasonal corona/flu now! Gaia is fucking pissed and is trying to kill off parasites known as humans.
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Well, when the sun consumes the earth in its fire, sure...it'll go away then. You think Trump was talking about that?
You'll literally take any absurd position just to defend Trump because Trump is Russia's bitch, and you are a loyal disciple of Putin. I see no point in even discussing it with you.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26658261 - 05/08/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Well, when the sun consumes the earth in its fire, sure...it'll go away then. You think Trump was talking about that?
Of course not.
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Enlil said: You'll literally take any absurd position just to defend Trump because Trump is Russia's bitch, and you are a loyal disciple of Putin. I see no point in even discussing it with you.

So no explanation? Just grade school ad-hominem attacks?
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As we wait for Enlil to back himself up, I'll go ahead and back myself up:
How will the coronavirus outbreak end? As with all past outbreaks, this one will eventually come to an end.
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So, how will this story wrap up? Experts say one possibility is that cases of the disease will start decreasing when enough people develop immunity, either through infection or vaccination. Another possible scenario is that the virus will continue to circulate and establish itself as a common respiratory virus.
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"If SARS-CoV-2 is like common strains of the flu (or like other coronaviruses that cause the common cold)"
Already this article is proven it doesn't know anything.
"Well over 200 virus strains are implicated in causing the common cold, with rhinoviruses being the most common."
The common cold hasn't really disappeared yet either, even if some coronaviruses cause it. The most common cause of the common cold is the rhinovirus.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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So maybe you can help explain why this will never go away?
Of course, I agree with your generic comment that "Viruses are here to stay", but why COVID-19?
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oculodextro said: "If SARS-CoV-2 is like common strains of the flu (or like other coronaviruses that cause the common cold)"
Already this article is proven it doesn't know anything.
It was a hypothetical "if" statement. It went on to say "But 'I think it's premature to assume that". It went further on to say "Another possibility is that SARS-CoV-2 will mutate in a potentially beneficial way, making it more difficult for the virus to infect people."
I'm here to learn, not to make believe.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Did they ever find a vaccine for the 1918 flu? Did it go away?
No. The 1918 flu was caused by H1N1, same virus that caused the 2009 swine flu panic.
So again, no it didn't just go away.
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But... Trump said...
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil] 2
#26658454 - 05/08/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not sure why fal insists on defending absolutely asinine statements.
Blows ma fuggin mind.
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If we're looking at how accurate Trump is on the virus going away similar to the way the Spanish flu went away it's worth mentioning the possibility of a second or third wave. The first wave was minor, the second wave was like a horror movie.
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The problem is people acting like they understand science, virology, epidemiology, and even therapeutic medicine. With no background for any of this. We're being empowered by anti-intellectualism and mah feels.
This video, article, facebook post, qnanon, deepstate, makes me feel a certain way so hence-forth it is fact!
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But but, I'm an 'Influencer' on Facebook, I have 120 000 mindless 'followers' that think I'm the shit
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26658748 - 05/08/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: But... Trump said...
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oculodextro said: The problem is people acting like they understand science, virology, epidemiology, and even therapeutic medicine. With no background for any of this.
If you have the background, it'd be nice if you answered the question "So maybe you can help explain why this will never go away?" instead of telling everyone else how little they know.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#26659238 - 05/09/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: Waiting on pins and needles for Falcon’s equivocation of trumps idiocy
Lol this is so predictable
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] 1
#26659308 - 05/09/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes some viruses mutate like SARS did because killing the host is not beneficial. Other viruses don't give a fuck about your meat body and will happily continue to tear it to shreds to spill viral loads.
Most viruses over time stabilize to be highly infectious but not so deadly. Right now we are at that weird point a "Novel" virus that we don't know much about. It appears to be highly infectious, and deadly to some.
Are you asking if humans will make the virus go away, or will it evolve to go away.
We still have HIV, the flu, rhinoviruses, HPV, polio, hepatitis of any variety you want (this is a good one, you get it through shit, pork, blood, from being a drunk)
I have graduate level classes in this shit, but I don't care to try and educate people. Learn on your own I spent years and money on this shit and I don't give a fuck enough to be a teacher.
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SirTripAlot said: We are so fucked. The second wave or rebound will show that we blew our wad way to quick. Someone on NPR stated the quickest vaccine developed.... took 3 years.
You would actually get a vaccine for this?
All this talk about mutation, that means your vaccine is useless in a year. Have fun with that.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D] 1
#26659526 - 05/09/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why wouldn't you get a vaccine? There's no downside to it. Lots of things last less than a year and you still buy them.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26659554 - 05/09/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So you've already researched every ingredient and it's possible side effects for a vaccine that doesn't even exist yet? Impressive.
If the vaccine takes three years to develop, what is your plan during that time? Just going to chill inside until then?
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