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Addicted to kratom
    #26658860 - 05/09/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Are any of you addicted to kratom? I've been using 10g everyday for the past 4 year's. Because of stress from the coronavirus I've been using 20g a day. I noticed today that my body is seriously addicted to it. I skipped a dose and It caused diarrhea and a bad headache. As soon as I took 10g I was completely normal again. My body is 100% addicted to it! Without it I have absolutely no energy. It's difficult to quit because it's sold online and it's available in 3 stores a mile down the road. I've quit far more addictive drugs in the past but for some reason I don't want to give this one up. I suffer from depression and kratom is basically all I have to fight it. Are any of you struggling with the same problem?


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Shenmue]
    #26658880 - 05/09/20 12:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Self medicating is bad for precisely this reason.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Shenmue]
    #26658882 - 05/09/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’m on a pretty heavy habit right now, if I ran out it would suck a pretty big fat dick, figuratively speaking.  I find that although the effects are relatively mild it makes the shift in consciousness deep in there, at your core.  Last time I ran out I got pain deep in my bones, it was surprising.  Like you, just a tiny, tiny scoop got me back to feeling fine.

There’s a compulsion to dose it.  Tapering is clearly the way to go for getting off it but good luck sticking to the taper.  Maybe the best strategy is to taper as far as you can and then just rip the bandaid.  I really haven’t experimented much with getting off it.  It is confirmed though, wd’s get pretty acute for some like myself.  Really the only silver lining is you don’t have to worry about dieing like with benzos or alcohol so that’s a relief:

For the record I assume total responsibility for dosing multiple times a day for a very extended period, it’s not like I was taken advantage of.  I dug my way in, I’ll dig my way out.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Amanita86]
    #26658918 - 05/09/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Im addicted to it too. I take 3/4 to 1 teaspoon doses but quite often. Its such a shitty substance to be addicted to in my opinion. I dont feel it at all if I eat a bunch, so I try not to eat a ton and that is addict behavior. Id simply smoke weed but for reasons I can’t currently.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26658923 - 05/09/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I’d rather smoke herb too but can’t really.  If I had herb to fall back on my kratom usage would probably drop down to nights I can’t sleep or when my back is screwing up.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Amanita86]
    #26658949 - 05/09/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Bro, same boat. Its a tough situation. I feel for you cuz im living it too. Without doxxing myself too much, where I live its illegal so I have to have it shipped from someone whos willing to risk that too. I really need to stop.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26658957 - 05/09/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

As I’ve factored it in my head it’s going to have to get pretty mathematical for me with weighing each dose and doing it at a set time.  Anytime I try to taper via eyeball it goes well for awhile and then my scoops start getting a little on the heavy side and I’m back to where I began.  I try to always have a kilo in reserve so if some shit should hit the fan somehow I have a ‘taper kilo’ to get me near as ideal as possible for going cold turkey.  If anything it’s an exercise in discipline.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26658964 - 05/09/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

One other thing is if cutting back it helps to stay on the move.  Sitting still and sleeping are when the torture kicks into full effect.  I remember last time I ran out, around 2 am I was wishing I had an exercise bike just to keep in constant motion.  So far I haven’t found anything you can take that kills the wd’s, I’ve tried all manner of gaba drugs and whatnot but nothing so far.  Someone here suggested Immodium, apparently that’s what heroin users use and a chemical in it binds to opiate receptors but I’ve not tried it personally.  Read up on it because if memory serves me you can run into troubles if you take too much, so you’ll want to make sure you don’t overdo it..


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Shenmue]
    #26658982 - 05/09/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Shenmue said:
Are any of you addicted to kratom? I've been using 10g everyday for the past 4 year's. Because of stress from the coronavirus I've been using 20g a day. I noticed today that my body is seriously addicted to it. I skipped a dose and It caused diarrhea and a bad headache. As soon as I took 10g I was completely normal again. My body is 100% addicted to it! Without it I have absolutely no energy. It's difficult to quit because it's sold online and it's available in 3 stores a mile down the road. I've quit far more addictive drugs in the past but for some reason I don't want to give this one up. I suffer from depression and kratom is basically all I have to fight it. Are any of you struggling with the same problem?



Yep. Been there. Was doing 1oz+ a day at my worst points.

SOOOOOOOOOO fucking glad to be free of it. I become habitual if I have it, so only option was to not buy it anymore.

Great stuff, but fuck addiction.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Amanita86]
    #26658984 - 05/09/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I feel the same way too. Phenibut (similar to gabapentin, you probably know of it,) can help thr anxiety but not much else.. and you dont want to take that stuff too much. Edibles help WD (I use to use long ago,) and they last a long while too... but alas, cant go that route.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26658985 - 05/09/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have yet to read about someone really thinking Kratom feels that great, most reports I have read is it has very little recreational use so not sure how people are getting addicted to it.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: budmanman]
    #26658993 - 05/09/20 01:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I have yet to read about someone really thinking Kratom feels that great, most reports I have read is it has very little recreational use so not sure how people are getting addicted to it.




You have to be trolling. Obviously it feels good or people wouldn't be taking it lmao.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Shenmue]
    #26658996 - 05/09/20 01:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ve only tried it it twice


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26658997 - 05/09/20 02:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Shenmue said:
Are any of you addicted to kratom? I've been using 10g everyday for the past 4 year's. Because of stress from the coronavirus I've been using 20g a day. I noticed today that my body is seriously addicted to it. I skipped a dose and It caused diarrhea and a bad headache. As soon as I took 10g I was completely normal again. My body is 100% addicted to it! Without it I have absolutely no energy. It's difficult to quit because it's sold online and it's available in 3 stores a mile down the road. I've quit far more addictive drugs in the past but for some reason I don't want to give this one up. I suffer from depression and kratom is basically all I have to fight it. Are any of you struggling with the same problem?



Yep. Been there. Was doing 1oz+ a day at my worst points.

SOOOOOOOOOO fucking glad to be free of it. I become habitual if I have it, so only option was to not buy it anymore.

Great stuff, but fuck addiction.




I hope I find the strength to do the same thing. It's fucking addictive man!! I might try to stop starting tomorrow.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Shenmue]
    #26659000 - 05/09/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I thought I had the coronavirus today. Nope turns out I was withdrawing from kratom. I just hate how I'm a slave to it..


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: Shenmue]
    #26659009 - 05/09/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What was your favorite effect from kratom?


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #26659010 - 05/09/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Self medicating is bad for precisely this reason.




Well I mean you still get addicted to substances even if you aren't self medicating... its not like just because its prescribed its not addictive


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26659041 - 05/09/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Self medicating is bad for precisely this reason.




No fucking shit lol. I'm glad you're here to give us your wise opinions :lol: ..


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: budmanman]
    #26659043 - 05/09/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Its opiate esqu depending on the strain and amount taken. Some people dont agree. I used kratom to get off methadone years ago. Without a tolerance, kratom is very nice to take for many situations. Cant sleep after a trip? Kratom will help.


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Re: Addicted to kratom [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26659052 - 05/09/20 02:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A mild sleep aid that makes people want to vomit if they try to get a significant effect, that's all I have read about this junk.


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