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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: bongoman]
#28106180 - 12/20/22 02:59 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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All PE strains tend to take their time. They will eventually get around to fruiting or contaminating fully. Just keep surface conditions looking good!
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: cooleko] 3
#28108752 - 12/22/22 01:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Melmak spore drop.
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Got my bags of grain about ready. They got last shake up few days ago. Everything is recovering great. It's cold so they are growing slower. 66f-75f. I have a heater but it's aimed at my cannabis tents. The culture looks more wispy in the millet and thicker in the rye. 3 bags are 100% millet 4 bags are 80% rye & 20% millet
Same culture but different plates used for 2 different liquid cultures. It's in the 12th transfer. I plan on making a clone or some spores and restarting. Old culture but works like a charm.
The rye myc looks thick and different from the millet.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Hobbit GDF] 1
#28116176 - 12/29/22 10:13 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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I feel like my melmac always looks slightly bacterial on well hydrated rye or wheat in bags, it doesnt shownin jars or until full colonization after the final shake but i wonder if it isnt just characteristic of the strain, iβve seen it in many spawn runs across years, even when the looks of the agar/recovery times after shaking would indicate perfectly clean and so do resulting yields.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Buddaking]
#28120733 - 01/02/23 05:32 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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New to the Mak scene. Thread too big to read, plus you guys are bored anyway, right?
Anyway I'm finally getting around to growing out the infamous BK MAK strain I got on dried grain. Man, whatever genius came up with that idea of culture storage/trading sure deserves some thanks ;-)
Fucking culture was clean right on the first plate, all 4 of them actually, that I put grains to. Came right alive and colonized quick as hell all rhizo growth.
Strangely, it has slowed down a lot on grain. Is that normal for these? And I'm actually having problems with shaking because I let the myc get to golf ball size and at that point no matter how hard I hit that jar, the grains wouldn't break up, all I could do was shake the golf ball around. Oh well, shouldn't be an issue.
Any other tips with these? Plan on growing in bags like always. Thick, packed down 1" or so coir only casing at spawning good enough?
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Forrester] 1
#28120746 - 01/02/23 06:11 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Yeah man MMTP/BKMAk are by far the slowest mushrooms Iβve ever grown. Slow on grain, slow to run the sub, REAL slow to pin. My tub going now took four weeks before I harvested one mushroom

It dried to 11g though. Iβm at 35 days today and finally have a handful of pins after harvesting 2 110+g fruits.

On grain it was like you said, slow and hard to break. I think since itβs so slow moving it starts to kind of consolidate while it spreads.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: A.k.a]
#28120801 - 01/02/23 07:50 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Well I got my grain bags switched over to fruiting bags. 2 fruiting bags are 1:1 ratio and 2 bags are 1:2 ratio. The 1:1 weigh 10lbs The 1:2 weigh 6.5lbs.
Well see how much I get from each one.

Aka you should try bags. Might help you get better flushes. Keeps the moisture and environment on point.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: A.k.a] 1
#28120811 - 01/02/23 07:58 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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I do find mac to be generally slow but Yaβll need to get on the 118 tip, its the best lineage imo.i have one pin plate clone that takes 14-18 days to first flush and another 10-12 for second. Colonizes rhizo and fast as anything else.
I have found that if the initial pinset is shitty, which happens sometimes, is harvested regardless of it maturing the second flush will come in really nice n full and sometimes when you leave them they grow crazy fluted mutants and the second flush comes in underneath
Because of long colonization/consolidation before fruiting pinning conditions degrade. So limiting fae on them a little before fruiting conditions is helpful too.
They kinda like to consolidate before fruiting, i think its similar to PE blobbing but they still look like fruits in the case of mac.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: AyePlus]
#28121033 - 01/02/23 11:00 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
A.k.a said: Yeah man MMTP/BKMAk are by far the slowest mushrooms Iβve ever grown. Slow on grain, slow to run the sub, REAL slow to pin. My tub going now took four weeks before I harvested one mushroom

It dried to 11g though. Iβm at 35 days today and finally have a handful of pins after harvesting 2 110+g fruits.

On grain it was like you said, slow and hard to break. I think since itβs so slow moving it starts to kind of consolidate while it spreads.
That was my thought as well. Wow I didn't know these were such slow growers, no worry though I'm not in a hurry. Is potency up there with PE then?
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AyePlus said: Because of long colonization/consolidation before fruiting pinning conditions degrade. So limiting fae on them a little before fruiting conditions is helpful too.
They kinda like to consolidate before fruiting, i think its similar to PE blobbing but they still look like fruits in the case of mac.
I like to grow all my cubes in bags cause it's easy, and allow them to pin invitro before cutting slits in the bag for air. That way the sub never dries out as the only air it's getting is through the filter patch. Should work good for this variety then!
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Forrester]
#28121044 - 01/02/23 11:06 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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They love bags, the guy who made the 118 and TP genetics was all about them
If you grow them with a ton of fae they end up alot more like short stocky cubes, the giant knobby monsters come in mid to low fae fruiting conditions.
And yeah potency is there. Even with faster clones.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: AyePlus]
#28121104 - 01/02/23 12:00 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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I need to take a clone this round. I'm on 13th transfer. I would like to start a spore plate and clone plate when they are ready.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: AyePlus] 1
#28121173 - 01/02/23 01:07 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
AyePlus said: They love bags, the guy who made the 118 and TP genetics was all about them
If you grow them with a ton of fae they end up alot more like short stocky cubes, the giant knobby monsters come in mid to low fae fruiting conditions.
Ah thanks for that, damn these things are made for bags. Now I don't even have to slash up my bags so much when they start fruiting!
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Forrester]
#28136658 - 01/12/23 01:23 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Hi guys
So I have my first tub of Mak TP firing up, but the first flush is all blobs...
As a next step, do I wait for the blobs to be harvested, then case with peat/lime or peat/verm/lime in between flushes like that?
Or do I just do nothing as I have seen elsewhere that these PE lineages sometimes throw some blobs and then the second flush starts making normal looking fruit?
Shame I am not getting the fruit yet but it looks healthy so I am not too fussed, just want to get the photogenic dicks lol
anyone can help that would be great, much appreciated
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Just wait it out, usually second flush comes normal if you get blobs.
I have never seen MM blob though but Iβve only run the original and TP
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Buddaking]
#28136998 - 01/12/23 05:17 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: A.k.a]
#28137323 - 01/12/23 10:15 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Just wait it out, usually second flush comes normal if you get blobs.
I have never seen MM blob though but Iβve only run the original and TP
Ha just my great luck as usual I guess
I would be suspicious after you saying that, that I did not get the real mccoy. But it was from Prints, so I figure the genetics are legit and it is just my conditions here locally
So I will do nothing and report back, hopefully with some dicks rather than some bird eggs
cheers man
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Attemping a swpe x MM cross, this is F1
Doesnt look like either parent to me, And theyre (lightly) dropping spores pretty sure i got a successful cross.


Cloned the big one in the middle just for fun, i like the look, and they made huge fruits on a tiny sub, hybrid vigor?
Spores went straight to agar, germed in 2 days
Excited to see where this goes
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: AyePlus]
#28137877 - 01/13/23 12:08 PM (1 year, 15 days ago) |
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Quote:
AyePlus said: Attemping a swpe x MM cross, this is F1
Doesnt look like either parent to me, And theyre (lightly) dropping spores pretty sure i got a successful cross.


Cloned the big one in the middle just for fun, i like the look, and they made huge fruits on a tiny sub, hybrid vigor?
Spores went straight to agar, germed in 2 days
Excited to see where this goes
Looks great. Good job.
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#28150259 - 01/21/23 09:09 AM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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I'm at 21 days now and no pins in the bag. The surface moisture looks perfect. Should I open the vent yet or wait till I have pins?
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Re: Melmak / Homestead Only [Re: Hobbit GDF] 1
#28150265 - 01/21/23 09:14 AM (1 year, 7 days ago) |
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Iβd go for more fae for sure after 21, they should knot any day now.
Also worth mentioning to play with different field cap, i notice better first flushes with dryer subs but better overall if i do standard field cap. The first flush at full field cap usually throws some crazy mutants then a decent flush comes in under, and the second flush is a bunch of more classic cube lookin monsters with knobby stems.
Second flush after a shit first:
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