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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657415 - 05/08/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What you just said is considered a conspiracy theory by most right now.

A bit ago you said 2 family members died of it, implying that you think the virus is super serious.

"3 years later i find myself in the ER. i am you, i just stumbled my way into this position. You could have done so, too. Im telling you that if you HAD done so, you would not be engaging in conspiracy theories about this, because youd have firsthand experience  of it. Youd also be losing your shit conatantly arguing with people, some of whom are or were sort of your friends, who are implying youre in on some kind of conspiracy to make them poor and get microchipped by bill gate"

This quote of yours implies you are on the front lines and it is super serious and those who don't think so are stupid conspiracy nuts.

and now you say this?

"I HAVE BEEN IN THE covid19 THREAD CLAIMING THE CFR WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 0.6 SINCE FEBRUARY. That is what the origal south korean study indicated. Wanna know where i got that figure? By reading the goddamn scientific literature."


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657416 - 05/08/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

those who say this virus is fake are the same ones who fear monger over everything else


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657428 - 05/08/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The virus is real. The hype is unreal.


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Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead]
    #26657430 - 05/08/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

what hype


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657433 - 05/08/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

you mean storming a black mayors office with assault rifles and nazi flags?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated] * 2
    #26657441 - 05/08/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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cannabinated said:
what hype




You know, the its too dangerous to buy a pack of seeds for your garden in wal mart while buying the meat in the freezer right next to them.

The its too dangerous to go fishing, hunting, shit Michigan won't let you mow your lawn its too dangerous.

Arresting barbers for opening their barber shop,

That hype.

Is this dude intentionally stupid? I think he does it on purpose.


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Edited by budmanman (05/08/20 01:13 PM)


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657442 - 05/08/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I make my own seeds

no one is saving anyone with a victory garden


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657444 - 05/08/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

most states can hunt and fish


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657447 - 05/08/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That barber cut ted cruz hair today.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead]
    #26657450 - 05/08/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A cfr of 0.6 means the disease is six times deadlier than the flu. 

It IS serious. Is the cfr 5%? No! Both things are true.

A bad flu season already taxes hospital systems. It was immediately clear to those of us working in hospitals that a disease even twice as deadly as the flu would be a problem. This is more than twice as deadly. It is more than 3 times as deadly.



When you say things like "it is being blown out of proportion" you are assuming some person who is blowing it out of proportion.
Invariably those people make money the more out of proportion they blow things. This goes for people who are blowing their "loss of liberty" out of proportion as well. Think. Think. Think. Dont be duped


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657459 - 05/08/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We should destroy the whole economy, shut down barbers, shut down everything because of something that is between 2 and 6 times worse than a flu. lmao

But wait that death rate for the flu is based on its average,

Back in 2017 we had 80,000 Americans die of the flu in just winter.

SOURCE

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

"NEW YORK — An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter — the disease’s highest death toll in at least four decades.

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Robert Redfield, revealed the total in an interview Tuesday night with The Associated Press.

Flu experts knew it was a very bad season, but at least one found size of the estimate surprising.

“That’s huge,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University vaccine expert. The tally was nearly twice as much as what health officials previously considered a bad year, he said."



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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.


Edited by budmanman (05/08/20 01:22 PM)


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657462 - 05/08/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The quality of your complaints usually are reliant on an individual who has to make a tough decision rather than an institution who is acting on greed and incompetence.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657467 - 05/08/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

youre also being hella disingenuous and I dont care what u have to say cause its a waste of my time

SARS still killed more people this year with a latent spread and the WHOLE WORLD shutting down.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657472 - 05/08/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

you may have had it but there are thousands of videos of people keeling over on the street who looked fine seconds before.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657473 - 05/08/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The world shut down around the time the data started pointing to a 6-13% death rate, now no one wants to admit we shut the world down for no reason.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657475 - 05/08/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

the data never suggested that

those were real numbers


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657477 - 05/08/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, that was a bad flu season. Which is why people saying "it is only as bad as the flu" never made sense to begin with.


Youll not find me making any arguments about jow to handle the economy. I dont fucking know. I talk about what i do know, and what i do know is that the disease is much worse than the flu, including the one from 2017. If we had let it go without intervening at all, would have had easily 3x that many deaths from December to april from covid19 alone than we did from the flu the entire year of 2017. That is using the cfr of 0.6

If you wanna argue to reopen the economy just say "i believe that the economy failing is worse than a million or so people dying". I can actually respect that position a lot more than "the economy needs to reopen because the disease isnt even bad"


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657479 - 05/08/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

cannabinated said:
the data never suggested that

those were real numbers




So you are saying the virus really is 6-13% deadly?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657480 - 05/08/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

im saying that from what we knew, 6-13% of people who were tested died


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657481 - 05/08/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
Yeah, that was a bad flu season. Which is why people saying "it is only as bad as the flu" never made sense to begin with.


Youll not find me making any arguments about jow to handle the economy. I dont fucking know. I talk about what i do know, and what i do know is that the disease is much worse than the flu, including the one from 2017. If we had let it go without intervening at woukd have had easily 3x that many deaths from December to april from covid19 alone than we did from the flu the entire year of 2017. That is using the cfr of 0.6




Deaths now, deaths later, whats it matter, woo we can add a few months to peoples lives, but really we are also just shuffling the deck, it takes 70% of the population to get herd immunity. We can change the time line and fates of who will be the 70% will be while we flatten the curve, or we flatten the curve all the way till the untested untrialed vaccine is ready but if we do the vaccine right it will take till 2022 or later, we gonna flatten the curve that long?

This is not the proper response to something a tad worse than a moderate or mild flu season.


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And I am mentally unstable.


Edited by budmanman (05/08/20 01:32 PM)


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