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Coronalierus
    #26657095 - 05/08/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Can we stop with the fear theater? I'm not an asshole. You are.
Are people ignorant?
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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead] * 11
    #26657107 - 05/08/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Can yall stop making 10 thousand different threads about how butthurt you are about things you dont understand? Just make one thread titled "the thread for jackasses who dropped out of high school to post the latest dipshit youtube theory and proceed to do absolutely nothing about the problems of the world, not that we could even if we wanted to, since we lack useful skills", or something along those lines, that would be great, thanks


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657120 - 05/08/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I did drop out but I'm pursueing a health science degree in college. It seems like you are the minority and a major asshole.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #26657170 - 05/08/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Coming up next on The Theater of Fear, how toilet paper can save you from UFOs full of nano-drones sent by beings hellbent on resurrecting a zombie Ronald Reagan to battle Mark "Of The Beast" Zuckerberg to gain control of the internet and help create the FEMA's 5G Amusement Park & Campgrounds.



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead] * 2
    #26657246 - 05/08/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I did drop out but I'm pursueing a health science degree in college.



If this is true, youre about to feel real fucking stupid :rofl: see you on the front line

But yes, being accused of taking money from the zionists or billgates to pretend a disease i spend a shitload of energy protecting myself from at work is real has turned me into a bit of an asshole


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657278 - 05/08/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You're gonna be out of a job when I'm on the frontlines. :smugjerry:


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead]
    #26657331 - 05/08/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

People who bought 5 years worth of toilet paper agree that the virus is big scary and big dangerous. You are smart if you agree with them and probably completed highschool.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657361 - 05/08/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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People who bought 5 years worth of toilet paper agree that the virus is big scary and big dangerous. You are smart if you agree with them and probably completed highschool.


ah yes, THEM.

Not us. THEM.

hamhead made the origin covid19 thread. Just like so many counterculture people he clearly seems to fins it necessary to distinguish himself from the current popular perspective. "New story about a dangerous virus? Nobody is talking about this yet, chance to distinguish myself."

"Oh now everyone is aware of the virus- its a bunch of bullshit, new chance to distinguish myself."

Protip, people who live lives of actual distinction are disgintuished from those around them without trying

Hey guys, i am us. I actually dropped out of high school, too, at one point(ended up finishing). I worked a shit job throughout much of 20s and decided to go back to school on a whim. 3 years later i find myself in the ER. i am you, i just stumbled my way into this position. You could have done so, too. Im telling you that if you HAD done so, you would not be engaging in conspiracy theories about this, because youd have firsthand experience  of it. Youd also be losing your shit conatantly arguing with people, some of whom are or were sort of your friends, who are implying youre in on some kind of conspiracy to make them poor and get microchipped by bill gates


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657378 - 05/08/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Cool story, my wife works at a nursing home and we both caught the virus, the virus is being over blown.



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 2
    #26657383 - 05/08/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Tell that to the 2 members of my extended family who died of it within 2 weeks of one another :rolleyes:


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657385 - 05/08/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Me on the other hand I worked for the government, while I did I felt very important and after a few years of it I realized the value I personally contributed to society was a fraction of my large salary and eventually I couldn't take that anymore and quit, now I make less money with the potential to make way more than I use to working for the government, it seemed like a logical choice, the value I add to society is way more than I am being paid, for now at least and I also still feel kind of important as I have top secret clearance.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657388 - 05/08/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Tell that to the 2 members of my extended family who died of it within 2 weeks of one another :rolleyes:




Do you think cars are safe and we should be allowed to drive? Tell that to my family member who died in a car accident.

See how much of a knuckle dragging response that is?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657389 - 05/08/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

As long as you feel important, right?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657390 - 05/08/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Tell that to the 2 members of my extended family who died of it within 2 weeks of one another :rolleyes:




Do you think cars are safe and we should be allowed to drive? Tell that to my family member who died in a car accident.

See how much of a knuckle dragging response that is?


the argument you tried to make was analogous to saying that driving isnt dangerous because it hasnt killed you yet.

It is dangerous, as is your level of stupidity


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #26657395 - 05/08/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you're wasting brain cells in here morrowasted


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26657399 - 05/08/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Morrowasted needs this to be more important than it is. Just like the people who are in debt for buying up all the toilet paper. Otherwise they have to face their mistakes.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657404 - 05/08/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The new data suggest that that the death rate for this Novel Corona virus is under 1%. Initially we were lead to believe it was between 6-13.5%

When you factor in that its possible 90% of people who catch it are asymptomatic that makes the death rate range between .03-1%.

People die of the flu, you could have 2 family members that die of the flu, we have had more people die of non corona pneumonia this year than corona virus.

At my wifes work in a 3 week period 25 elderly residents in the nursing home died, 15 from corona pneumonia and 10 from non corona pneumonia.

Pnumonia is serious way more serious than coronavirus, and its always been around and it can be quite contagious. coronavirus will go away on its own, pneumonia wont we don't really get herd immunity from it because it often times is a 2ndary infection for the many common colds that exist.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead]
    #26657406 - 05/08/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Morrowasted needs this to be more important than it is. Just like the people who are in debt for buying up all the toilet paper. Otherwise they have to face their mistakes.




Exactly they got invested into the fear.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657411 - 05/08/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This i what im trying to fucking tell you dude


I HAVE BEEN IN THE covid19 THREAD CLAIMING THE CFR WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 0.6 SINCE FEBRUARY. That is what the origal south korean study indicated. Wanna know where i got that figure? By reading the goddamn scientific literature.

The media wants to sell you the highest figure because then youll stay tuned for tips on how to not die. Alex jones wants to sell you something else so youll stay tuned for more about how to not fall for the zionist conspiracy. Fuck the media, fuck trump, fuck alex jones. I have nothing to sell you. I have no advertisers. My only ratings are those shrooms under my name

believe it or not, i represent the moderate view. Im fine with texas reopening at partial capacity. I value individual freedom

I also value not being a dupe.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657414 - 05/08/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The fact that this guy just said "pneumonia is more serious than the coronavirus" tells anyone who has even basic medical understanding how much your opinion is worth.

Its like saying "fever is worse the flu". No, dumbshit, the flu is ONE CAUSE of a fever


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657415 - 05/08/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What you just said is considered a conspiracy theory by most right now.

A bit ago you said 2 family members died of it, implying that you think the virus is super serious.

"3 years later i find myself in the ER. i am you, i just stumbled my way into this position. You could have done so, too. Im telling you that if you HAD done so, you would not be engaging in conspiracy theories about this, because youd have firsthand experience  of it. Youd also be losing your shit conatantly arguing with people, some of whom are or were sort of your friends, who are implying youre in on some kind of conspiracy to make them poor and get microchipped by bill gate"

This quote of yours implies you are on the front lines and it is super serious and those who don't think so are stupid conspiracy nuts.

and now you say this?

"I HAVE BEEN IN THE covid19 THREAD CLAIMING THE CFR WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 0.6 SINCE FEBRUARY. That is what the origal south korean study indicated. Wanna know where i got that figure? By reading the goddamn scientific literature."


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657416 - 05/08/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

those who say this virus is fake are the same ones who fear monger over everything else


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657428 - 05/08/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The virus is real. The hype is unreal.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
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Hebrews 11:3
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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead]
    #26657430 - 05/08/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

what hype


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657433 - 05/08/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you mean storming a black mayors office with assault rifles and nazi flags?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated] * 2
    #26657441 - 05/08/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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what hype




You know, the its too dangerous to buy a pack of seeds for your garden in wal mart while buying the meat in the freezer right next to them.

The its too dangerous to go fishing, hunting, shit Michigan won't let you mow your lawn its too dangerous.

Arresting barbers for opening their barber shop,

That hype.

Is this dude intentionally stupid? I think he does it on purpose.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657442 - 05/08/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I make my own seeds

no one is saving anyone with a victory garden


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657444 - 05/08/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

most states can hunt and fish


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657447 - 05/08/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That barber cut ted cruz hair today.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead]
    #26657450 - 05/08/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

A cfr of 0.6 means the disease is six times deadlier than the flu. 

It IS serious. Is the cfr 5%? No! Both things are true.

A bad flu season already taxes hospital systems. It was immediately clear to those of us working in hospitals that a disease even twice as deadly as the flu would be a problem. This is more than twice as deadly. It is more than 3 times as deadly.



When you say things like "it is being blown out of proportion" you are assuming some person who is blowing it out of proportion.
Invariably those people make money the more out of proportion they blow things. This goes for people who are blowing their "loss of liberty" out of proportion as well. Think. Think. Think. Dont be duped


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657459 - 05/08/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

We should destroy the whole economy, shut down barbers, shut down everything because of something that is between 2 and 6 times worse than a flu. lmao

But wait that death rate for the flu is based on its average,

Back in 2017 we had 80,000 Americans die of the flu in just winter.

SOURCE

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

"NEW YORK — An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter — the disease’s highest death toll in at least four decades.

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Robert Redfield, revealed the total in an interview Tuesday night with The Associated Press.

Flu experts knew it was a very bad season, but at least one found size of the estimate surprising.

“That’s huge,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University vaccine expert. The tally was nearly twice as much as what health officials previously considered a bad year, he said."



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657462 - 05/08/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The quality of your complaints usually are reliant on an individual who has to make a tough decision rather than an institution who is acting on greed and incompetence.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657467 - 05/08/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

youre also being hella disingenuous and I dont care what u have to say cause its a waste of my time

SARS still killed more people this year with a latent spread and the WHOLE WORLD shutting down.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657472 - 05/08/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you may have had it but there are thousands of videos of people keeling over on the street who looked fine seconds before.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657473 - 05/08/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The world shut down around the time the data started pointing to a 6-13% death rate, now no one wants to admit we shut the world down for no reason.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657475 - 05/08/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

the data never suggested that

those were real numbers


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657477 - 05/08/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, that was a bad flu season. Which is why people saying "it is only as bad as the flu" never made sense to begin with.


Youll not find me making any arguments about jow to handle the economy. I dont fucking know. I talk about what i do know, and what i do know is that the disease is much worse than the flu, including the one from 2017. If we had let it go without intervening at all, would have had easily 3x that many deaths from December to april from covid19 alone than we did from the flu the entire year of 2017. That is using the cfr of 0.6

If you wanna argue to reopen the economy just say "i believe that the economy failing is worse than a million or so people dying". I can actually respect that position a lot more than "the economy needs to reopen because the disease isnt even bad"


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26657479 - 05/08/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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the data never suggested that

those were real numbers




So you are saying the virus really is 6-13% deadly?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657480 - 05/08/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

im saying that from what we knew, 6-13% of people who were tested died


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657481 - 05/08/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, that was a bad flu season. Which is why people saying "it is only as bad as the flu" never made sense to begin with.


Youll not find me making any arguments about jow to handle the economy. I dont fucking know. I talk about what i do know, and what i do know is that the disease is much worse than the flu, including the one from 2017. If we had let it go without intervening at woukd have had easily 3x that many deaths from December to april from covid19 alone than we did from the flu the entire year of 2017. That is using the cfr of 0.6




Deaths now, deaths later, whats it matter, woo we can add a few months to peoples lives, but really we are also just shuffling the deck, it takes 70% of the population to get herd immunity. We can change the time line and fates of who will be the 70% will be while we flatten the curve, or we flatten the curve all the way till the untested untrialed vaccine is ready but if we do the vaccine right it will take till 2022 or later, we gonna flatten the curve that long?

This is not the proper response to something a tad worse than a moderate or mild flu season.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657482 - 05/08/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

the data always suggested it was 2%

cause they knew everything about it before they decided to release it :smirk:


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    #26657483 - 05/08/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Dude. Just admit that the disease is worse than the flu. If you wanna argue for liberty over life, go for it. That is a respectable position. Pretending the disease is less bad than it is to shore up your beliefs is not


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    #26657485 - 05/08/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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im saying that from what we knew, 6-13% of people who were tested died




Well why wasn't the WHO with their millions or billions or what ever amount of money they have using it to get quality data. It was either go with Italys trash data or go with China who tried to act like the virus didn't even exist at first data.


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    #26657489 - 05/08/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Dude. Just admit that the disease is worse than the flu. If you wanna argue for liberty over life, go for it. That is a respectable position. Pretending the disease is less bad than it is to shore up your beliefs is not




Its a bit worse than a mild flu season, its about the same as a bad flu season.

Its really nothing to be that concerned about, but people very concerned about it are causing toilet paper, meat etc shortages.

Economic consequences from the over reaction have lead to rent strikes, people making ill informed decisions furloughing their mortgages, the consequences of peoples reaction to  the virus are now extremely more dangerous than the virus itself. That's what people need to realize, we have already gone too far, you're rights will never be the same ever again.

The government just proved that it can enforce laws that don't even exist yet and that the constitution is as valuable as over bought toilet paper. That's what is dangerous now.


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    #26657491 - 05/08/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Holy fuck


I cant argue with someone who cant do basic math


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657494 - 05/08/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

the meat industry having workers die is what is causing shortages


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    #26657497 - 05/08/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you have some math to support your claim feel free to post it.

I go to work in 2 hour and will be scrolling out top secret engineering drawings, schematics, flipping through what we call the 3,000 page electricians bible and doing math for 8 hours.


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    #26657503 - 05/08/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How about this math for ya


100k+ people in under 4 months with extreme social distancing measures > 80k in 12 months with none

Didnt need a degree for that


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    #26657505 - 05/08/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

im just glad my grandmas caretaker already was infected and got over it

now... which strain did he have...


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    #26657506 - 05/08/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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the meat industry having workers die is what is causing shortages




I have only heard of 1 plant worker dying and 1 USDA inspector dying.


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    #26657508 - 05/08/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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How about this math for ya


100k+ people in under 4 months with extreme social distancing measures > 80k in 12 months with none

Didnt need a degree for that




Apparently you do, it is 80k in 3 months, winter is 3 months lmao


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657510 - 05/08/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i wonder how many of them have access to healthcare considering theyre all illegal


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    #26657511 - 05/08/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i mean broke and rural


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    #26657513 - 05/08/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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How about this math for ya


100k+ people in under 4 months with extreme social distancing measures > 80k in 12 months with none

Didnt need a degree for that




Apparently you do, it is 80k in 3 months, winter is 3 months lmao


the flu season isnt counted over 3 months:huxleyfacepalm:


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    #26657517 - 05/08/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How do you even argue with this???? Its like people are trying to be wrong on purpose.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26657521 - 05/08/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Crazy how after winter, when people start going outside and spacing out more instead of socializing inside where its warm, viral infections drop.

I know we should all shelter inside, obviously people are not going to go over to their friends houses when told not to, oh shit people be throwing block parties? lol

We know the virus dies in 1-90 seconds when exposed to sun light, lets shut the beach down.


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    #26657522 - 05/08/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Even if it HAD been 80k in 3 months which is wasnt, THOSE NUMBERS REFLECT MORTALITY WITH ZERO SOCIAL CONTROLS. The covid numbers reflect mortality with them

This is seriously not complicated


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    #26657527 - 05/08/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Social controls are ineffective, people are being forced to all go to the same locations, it is thought that if someone sneezes it spreads 2 isles over in a grocery store in 2 minutes. A mask might reduce that for the wearer who sneezes, but only if it is a medical or n95. Cloth mask will do basically nothing. Viral particles flow right through.

The social controls are literally doing nothing. People are going to their friends houses and are inside the worst case scenario for trying to stop the spread. Granted its cold in most places but now its starting to warm up and we want people to stay inside? They're gonna just hang out and socialize in enclosed spaces if they're following that.

I have seen people in here defend this crap too who have admitted they go to their friends houses and their friends come over to their houses it makes me lol


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26657535 - 05/08/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you know american mercenaries were killed in venezuela last week in an attempted coup, right?


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    #26657548 - 05/08/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Those mercenaries said their instructions came from Jordan. Not sure what that has to do with the virus.


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    #26657551 - 05/08/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I know a hell of a lot more americans in jordan than venezuelans :shrug:


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    #26657579 - 05/08/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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    #26657624 - 05/08/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You know why you don't see healthcare workers protesting the shutdown? They have to live in their cars for constant fear they will give it to their families. People who are choosing to go out without masks and gather in groups are giving a big middle finger to those doctors and nurses. Many doctors and nurses have said it's a slap in the face and all these people saying they are sending their prayers and thanking the "heros" that are protesting see them as the reason they'll be overburdened with death and it all those thank you become fuck yous. We know that this just mutated to become more contagious. We know the medical system is overburdened and overstretched, we know more people will die if we "just go back to normal like a light switch". If you're protesting stay at home you're vrea5ing more time we will eventually have to lockdown.

Not to say some place can't open up with distancing guidelines but life isn't going back to normal and if we pretend it is there will be no normal to go back to. It is selfish, What about me what about my freedom to get a haircut?FUCK YOUR HAIRCUT for the next year or so we need to pull up oiir big boy pants and ride through economic hardship, personal freedoms specifically to not spread disease or get sick may be changed until it's really over so that your action don't cause deaths.

EVERYONE who isn't working an essential job right now is dying financially and really need to work to put food on the table and not wait in food lines or for unemployment checks. Everyone wants to go back to work and these protests alone are setting our own goals of phase 1 out of 4 reopening phases which is a decline in cases for 14 days and that's just one of the criteria being ruined by morons that believe what they want to.


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    #26657629 - 05/08/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'ma get rich while ya'll are livin' in fear.


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    #26657647 - 05/08/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I know someone waiting for a breast cancer surgery who is taking the stay at home orders in better stride than the " i want my $10 an hour job back" crew


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    #26657680 - 05/08/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Dude. Just admit that the disease is worse than the flu. If you wanna argue for liberty over life, go for it. That is a respectable position. Pretending the disease is less bad than it is to shore up your beliefs is not




Its a bit worse than a mild flu season, its about the same as a bad flu season.

Its really nothing to be that concerned about, but people very concerned about it are causing toilet paper, meat etc shortages.

Economic consequences from the over reaction have lead to rent strikes, people making ill informed decisions furloughing their mortgages, the consequences of peoples reaction to  the virus are now extremely more dangerous than the virus itself. That's what people need to realize, we have already gone too far, you're rights will never be the same ever again.

The government just proved that it can enforce laws that don't even exist yet and that the constitution is as valuable as over bought toilet paper. That's what is dangerous now.



Theres no toilet paper shortages right now actually never has been and meat shortages have been caused by infected workers causing meat processing plants to ahut down but to prove YOUR point you imply that panic is causing meat shortages. This is the kind of egotistical crap I'm talking bout. You didn't look into to meat shortages or that the reason they close was because massive amounts of workers got sick shows you just use whatever you want to prove your point instead of learning and being educated on the subject.
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I'ma get rich while ya'll are livin' in fear.



Good luck spending it when you're in the hospital paying through the nose, dead or having a vulnerable family member get it, get sick or die.

Like i said if you want your business back open and you have staff wear ppe, sanitize and keep people far away from each other id be more inclined to back that eve if it's a risk. Still need to see declining numbers but if we just try and prevent this instead of doing nothing  we will decrease the deaths that would have occurred and this is a test of how smart we are as a nation. Do we use science to inform our choices in a pandemic or do we use emotion. It's also a test of our capacity to love they neighbor like they self by sacrificing the stability of a job in certain circumstances to save lives. Ironically the people saying that the majority of Americans that are more afraid of opening fast are "living in fear" are fearful themselves of living at home all the time, being on unemployment or not knowing where the next meal will come. They're so afraid and panicked they're protesting in groups without masks during the deadliest pandemic since the Spanish flu.
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I know someone waiting for a breast cancer surgery who is taking the stay at home orders in better stride than the " i want my $10 an hour job back" crew




Exactly my brothers son needs brain surgery or he will die by the time has 10 now they can't do it and they're terrified that brain damage will get worse and the seizures might kill him and although they aren't happy with it they understand why it's happening. Child brain surgery is not something you do if they can't guarantee he won't die of COVID in an already risky complicated risky surgery


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    #26657701 - 05/08/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Dude to this day my local stores are still out of toilet paper lol, only costco has some and its a fraction of the size of stock now. Well costco had some last time I went for all I know its gone now.


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    #26657703 - 05/08/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

and get this, construction industries are shut down, the produced most of the saw dust etc that makes the fucking toilet paper and now toilet paper precursors are running out.


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    #26657710 - 05/08/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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You know why you don't see healthcare workers protesting the shutdown? They have to live in their cars for constant fear they will give it to their families. People who are choosing to go out without masks and gather in groups are giving a big middle finger to those doctors and nurses. Many doctors and nurses have said it's a slap in the face and all these people saying they are sending their prayers and thanking the "heros" that are protesting see them as the reason they'll be overburdened with death and it all those thank you become fuck yous. We know that this just mutated to become more contagious. We know the medical system is overburdened and overstretched, we know more people will die if we "just go back to normal like a light switch". If you're protesting stay at home you're vrea5ing more time we will eventually have to lockdown.

Not to say some place can't open up with distancing guidelines but life isn't going back to normal and if we pretend it is there will be no normal to go back to. It is selfish, What about me what about my freedom to get a haircut?FUCK YOUR HAIRCUT for the next year or so we need to pull up oiir big boy pants and ride through economic hardship, personal freedoms specifically to not spread disease or get sick may be changed until it's really over so that your action don't cause deaths.

EVERYONE who isn't working an essential job right now is dying financially and really need to work to put food on the table and not wait in food lines or for unemployment checks. Everyone wants to go back to work and these protests alone are setting our own goals of phase 1 out of 4 reopening phases which is a decline in cases for 14 days and that's just one of the criteria being ruined by morons that believe what they want to.




You know why you don't see it? Because youtube and social media removes it.



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    #26657722 - 05/08/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I'ma get rich while ya'll are livin' in fear.




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    #26657737 - 05/08/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Really because toilet paper manufacturing are saying there as never been a "shortage" a shortage means even the manufactures are short on product. I'd like to see something recent about toilet paper shortages all the articles i found were in April saying there's no shortage it's simply panic buying and how fast they can ship things. My store never runs out of toilet paper so maybe yours is a fairly isolated incident but I was right about you using meat shortages attributed to panic instead of saying what really happened.

Also again boo fucking hoo if we all run short on toilet paper to save lives. There are more then one way to wipe your ass. Hope it doesn't come to that but if it does I'm not going to blow my brains out or go protest the lack of toilet paper
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You know why you don't see healthcare workers protesting the shutdown? They have to live in their cars for constant fear they will give it to their families. People who are choosing to go out without masks and gather in groups are giving a big middle finger to those doctors and nurses. Many doctors and nurses have said it's a slap in the face and all these people saying they are sending their prayers and thanking the "heros" that are protesting see them as the reason they'll be overburdened with death and it all those thank you become fuck yous. We know that this just mutated to become more contagious. We know the medical system is overburdened and overstretched, we know more people will die if we "just go back to normal like a light switch". If you're protesting stay at home you're vrea5ing more time we will eventually have to lockdown.

Not to say some place can't open up with distancing guidelines but life isn't going back to normal and if we pretend it is there will be no normal to go back to. It is selfish, What about me what about my freedom to get a haircut?FUCK YOUR HAIRCUT for the next year or so we need to pull up oiir big boy pants and ride through economic hardship, personal freedoms specifically to not spread disease or get sick may be changed until it's really over so that your action don't cause deaths.

EVERYONE who isn't working an essential job right now is dying financially and really need to work to put food on the table and not wait in food lines or for unemployment checks. Everyone wants to go back to work and these protests alone are setting our own goals of phase 1 out of 4 reopening phases which is a decline in cases for 14 days and that's just one of the criteria being ruined by morons that believe what they want to.




You know why you don't see it? Because youtube and social media removes it.





Yeah that's not the majority though as represented by everyone in the medical profession I've talked to. Numerous polls,numerous pleas on social media and YouTube, counter protesters. Fact is that ER doctors in the shit obviously don't hold that opinion


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    #26657739 - 05/08/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think there's a middle ground, as there usually is with things.

Not fearing the virus doesn't automatically make one a moron. Although if one doesn't fear it, he/she should still comply with all the precautionary measures (such as wearing a mask) out of respect for others.

And on the flip side, fearing the virus and taking every possible precaution to protect one's self from it isn't a bad thing either obviously.





Unfortunately this virus, like so many things has become aligned along political lines, and now it's seen by many people as black & white:

If you don't fear the virus: You're an idiot who will kill scores of people with your ignorance

If you fear the virus: You're a fear consumed coward and a sheep





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    #26657748 - 05/08/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Really because toilet paper manufacturing are saying there as never been a "shortage" a shortage means even the manufactures are short on product. I'd like to see something recent about toilet paper shortages all the articles i found were in April saying there's no shortage it's simply panic buying and how fast they can ship things. My store never runs out of toilet paper so maybe yours is a fairly isolated incident but I was right about you using meat shortages attributed to panic instead of saying what really happened.

Also again boo fucking hoo if we all run short on toilet paper to save lives. There are more then one way to wipe your ass. Hope it doesn't come to that but if it does I'm not going to blow my brains out or go protest the lack of toilet paper
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You know why you don't see healthcare workers protesting the shutdown? They have to live in their cars for constant fear they will give it to their families. People who are choosing to go out without masks and gather in groups are giving a big middle finger to those doctors and nurses. Many doctors and nurses have said it's a slap in the face and all these people saying they are sending their prayers and thanking the "heros" that are protesting see them as the reason they'll be overburdened with death and it all those thank you become fuck yous. We know that this just mutated to become more contagious. We know the medical system is overburdened and overstretched, we know more people will die if we "just go back to normal like a light switch". If you're protesting stay at home you're vrea5ing more time we will eventually have to lockdown.

Not to say some place can't open up with distancing guidelines but life isn't going back to normal and if we pretend it is there will be no normal to go back to. It is selfish, What about me what about my freedom to get a haircut?FUCK YOUR HAIRCUT for the next year or so we need to pull up oiir big boy pants and ride through economic hardship, personal freedoms specifically to not spread disease or get sick may be changed until it's really over so that your action don't cause deaths.

EVERYONE who isn't working an essential job right now is dying financially and really need to work to put food on the table and not wait in food lines or for unemployment checks. Everyone wants to go back to work and these protests alone are setting our own goals of phase 1 out of 4 reopening phases which is a decline in cases for 14 days and that's just one of the criteria being ruined by morons that believe what they want to.




You know why you don't see it? Because youtube and social media removes it.





Yeah that's not the majority though as represented by everyone in the medical profession I've talked to. Numerous polls,numerous pleas on social media and YouTube, counter protesters. Fact is that ER doctors in the shit obviously don't hold that opinion



And two things one its on YouTube now so they ain't making it down atm and I also I was talking about protesters you don't see any doctor out with no mask protesting


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    #26657757 - 05/08/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Th0se dOctOrs r F4ke crIsiS acToRs woRKinG 4 bIll GateS and the nwO


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Th0se dOctOrs r F4ke crIsiS acToRs woRKinG 4 bIll GateS and the nwO



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    #26657767 - 05/08/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

when the koch brothers are funding armed gatherings :rolleyes:


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 3
    #26657777 - 05/08/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

From the UFCW President Marc Perrone
http://www.ufcw.org/2020/04/28/order/

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To protect America’s food supply, America’s meatpacking workers must be protected. The reality is that these workers are putting their lives on the line every day to keep our country fed during this deadly outbreak, and at least 20 meatpacking workers have tragically died from coronavirus while more than 5,000 workers have been hospitalized or are showing symptoms. For the sake of all our families, we must prioritize the safety and security of these workers.




Diabetes is the 7th leading cause of death in the USA.  By sometime in the next couple of days, we will have lost more people to COVID in 5 months than we would to Diabetes all year.  If that's not significant enough to take this seriously, man, I don't know what to tell you. 

You may have it or had it and been fine, but there's a lot of folks who won't be fine.  As Americans, we need to look out for each other, but no...we don't.  We clamor that fetuses need to be saved but fuck them if they get COVID, I need my goddamn nails done.  Don't commit suicide, but come out and serve me my steak regardless of my COVID status.  Oh, life handed you an autoimmune disorder?  Too bad, so sad, I need to remodel my kitchen while I get to stay inside my house, so get to work stocking them shelves.

Is the hype overblown?  Absolutely.  Is the virus serious?  Absolutely.  Does everyone need to stop acting like a selfish little two year old and start caring about someone other than themselves?  Also Absolutely. 
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    #26657782 - 05/08/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

so whats the projection of lives saved from the flu this year?


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    #26657831 - 05/08/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Those mercenaries said their instructions came from Jordan. Not sure what that has to do with the virus.




LOL the guy's name is jordan

this was conjured up by america


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    #26657838 - 05/08/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:derail:

Stay on topic. We need to focus on people's fear induced psychosis and how wrong they are.


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    #26657871 - 05/08/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

no


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    #26657874 - 05/08/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

this is not the time to be fake ironic


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    #26658075 - 05/08/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yes it is


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    #26658107 - 05/08/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's a bird! It's a plane!

It's a 5g mast with jet wings firing vaccine missiles and spewing chemtrails!



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    #26658154 - 05/08/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

5G is usually mounted on utility poles.  What you've got there is a regular monopole tower with panel antennas firing vaccine missiles and chemtrails.

Your typical 5G tower looks more like this.  Try to see if you can spot one next time you go out.


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    #26658161 - 05/08/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for ruining my invisibility spell :sad:


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    #26658299 - 05/08/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Can yall stop making 10 thousand different threads about how butthurt you are about things you dont understand? Just make one thread titled "the thread for jackasses who dropped out of high school to post the latest dipshit youtube theory and proceed to do absolutely nothing about the problems of the world, not that we could even if we wanted to, since we lack useful skills", or something along those lines, that would be great, thanks





Haha man you med guys are elitists. This just sounds like pretentious snobbery to me but maybe that's because certain things dont translate over text


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    #26658325 - 05/08/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Can yall stop making 10 thousand different threads about how butthurt you are about things you dont understand? Just make one thread titled "the thread for jackasses who dropped out of high school to post the latest dipshit youtube theory and proceed to do absolutely nothing about the problems of the world, not that we could even if we wanted to, since we lack useful skills", or something along those lines, that would be great, thanks





Haha man you med guys are elitists. This just sounds like pretentious snobbery to me but maybe that's because certain things dont translate over text



Selfish as fuck. Der der You people saving lives are really on a high horse when it comes to trying to not stress our doctors and nurses past their limitations,seeing the human toll of isolated death in pandemic you don't know more then I do. Fuck off.


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    #26658329 - 05/08/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I mentioned my professional background on here less than a handful of times prior to these events, and definitely not as a way of appealing to authority. The only reason I invoke it now is because I'm hoping it will wake some of you up the fact that your Us vs. Them mentalities are completely nonsensical, because I am both us AND them. And yeah, certain users' replies have raised my hackles. For good reason.


In the real world, the people who are the assholes are the people going to grocery stores refusing to wear masks. They might be very soft spoken. They might never insult anyone. I am not soft spoken, and I do insult people. Right now. But they are the assholes. because they either think they know better than everyone, or they just dont fucking care about other people. Either way, that is as "elitist" as it gets.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: morrowasted]
    #26658392 - 05/08/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

do yall med guys save people with hydroxychloroquine?


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    #26658430 - 05/08/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

hydroxychloroquine is still in use believe it or not. real life is more nuanced than the media: "its a cure! wait no it's poison!"

some people seem to benefit from receiving the drug. if nobody who got COVID19 had heart disease or liver disease, it actually might be the gold standard treatment. the problem is that almost everyone hospitalized for COVID19 does have heart disease or liver disease

Houston started using a drug called remdesivir immediately, even before the clinical trials started, under compassionate use. You may have heard Trump say something about it about a month later, and then heard Fauci say it was probably the best one we have so far a couple of weeks after that.

In reality though patients who need drug therapy end up being on a lot of stuff at the same time and it's not really clear yet what is doing the trick (though I do agree with the assessment that remdesivir is the best pharmaceutical we've got). There are people receiving interferons, IL6 inhibitors, remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and IV vitamin C all at the same time. and yeah, most of the people survive.


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    #26658457 - 05/08/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Most survive, be scared, most have heart disease, big macs are essential business.


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    #26658460 - 05/08/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i had a double whopper yesterday cause its the end of the world

I made ice cream today :datass:


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26658468 - 05/08/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Good we should all have the freedom to choose to be as unhealthy or as healthy as we want. I mean how did we get to the point that heroin is illegal but its legal to have it and use it at a safe injection site but if you get caught with it on your way its illegal. Everyones top priority should be freedom. Till airborn ebola is here there is no good reason to lose any more rights. Theyre eroded so hard already


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    #26658503 - 05/08/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I know someone waiting for a breast cancer surgery who is taking the stay at home orders in better stride than the " i want my $10 an hour job back" crew





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Can yall stop making 10 thousand different threads about how butthurt you are about things you dont understand? Just make one thread titled "the thread for jackasses who dropped out of high school to post the latest dipshit youtube theory and proceed to do absolutely nothing about the problems of the world, not that we could even if we wanted to, since we lack useful skills", or something along those lines, that would be great, thanks





Haha man you med guys are elitists. This just sounds like pretentious snobbery to me but maybe that's because certain things dont translate over text



Selfish as fuck. Der der You people saving lives are really on a high horse when it comes to trying to not stress our doctors and nurses past their limitations,seeing the human toll of isolated death in pandemic you don't know more then I do. Fuck off.





Do I need to show you pics of my local hospitals empty ass parking lots?


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    #26658514 - 05/08/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Do I need to show you pics of my local hospitals empty ass parking lots?





Oh. My. God.

you really do chug windex, dont you?

you think covid patients are driving themselves to the hospital? Parking in the visitor lots, at that.

you realize that most of the hospital is shut down right? no elective surgeries. nothing nonessential.

on top of that the media is scaring people away from hospitals for things they would otherwise have gone for

and oh by the way, NO VISITORS.

yes, the hospitals are empty. except for the ones with the covid19 patients.

debating you guys would be so much fucking easier if HIPAA didnt exist. then again you'd probably just claim the photos were doctored.


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    #26658517 - 05/08/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Do I need to show you pics of my local hospitals empty ass parking lots?





Oh. My. God.

you really do chug windex, dont you?





OFTEN :kingcrankey:

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Do I need to show you pics of my local hospitals empty ass parking lots?





Oh. My. God.

you really do chug windex, dont you?





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    #26658626 - 05/08/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Do I need to show you pics of my local hospitals empty ass parking lots?





Oh. My. God.

you really do chug windex, dont you?





OFTEN :kingcrankey:

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    #26658631 - 05/08/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hospitals are mostly empty so we should be scardd that they could be overwhelmed


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    #26658651 - 05/08/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

we should always be weary of blanket statements when it comes to public health


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    #26658674 - 05/08/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you really wanna be coronalerius the bill for at home contact tracing is called HR 6666 lol they want you to be riled up about it that was no accident


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    #26658692 - 05/08/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have 2 classmates doing contact tracing for Massachusetts

It's literally one phone call after you test positive

You let them know who you've been in close contact with recently and they alert the people and recommend they get tested

But everyone else is the irrationally scared ones lol.

You really seem to be losing it lately bud


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    #26658699 - 05/08/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

bills are numbered by order

yet i believe


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    #26658703 - 05/08/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

nope illuminati


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    #26658707 - 05/08/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

6665 is from 2017 to 2018 so apparently not. They want to come to your house and test you, right to your door and they're gonna make it bill 6666 its not expected to pass


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    #26658709 - 05/08/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

theres no way a bill that sinister will not pass


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    #26658711 - 05/08/20 10:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Why wouldn't they tell me to just take the bus to the nearest testing center?








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    #26658714 - 05/08/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

they already have at home mail tests. No need for someone to physically arrive and deliver it and question you in person when you are a phone call away.


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    #26658715 - 05/08/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

A virus so contagious and deadly an agent of the government wants to get near you lol


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    #26658781 - 05/08/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Why wouldn't they tell me to just take the bus to the nearest testing center?




https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-says-voting-in-the-wisconsin-primary-is-safe-locals-say-it-could-kill-them


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26658804 - 05/08/20 11:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Do I need to show you pics of my local hospitals empty ass parking lots?





Oh. My. God.

you really do chug windex, dont you?

you think covid patients are driving themselves to the hospital? Parking in the visitor lots, at that.

you realize that most of the hospital is shut down right? no elective surgeries. nothing nonessential.

on top of that the media is scaring people away from hospitals for things they would otherwise have gone for

and oh by the way, NO VISITORS.

yes, the hospitals are empty. except for the ones with the covid19 patients.

debating you guys would be so much fucking easier if HIPAA didnt exist. then again you'd probably just claim the photos were doctored.




How does HIPAA keep you from showing pictures of a parking lot?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #26658816 - 05/08/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

#showusthewarzone



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26658824 - 05/08/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Those are prolly just the travel nurses getting 10k a week rejoicing

my mom isnt even working in the ICU cause of them :thumbup:


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26658827 - 05/08/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

an inheritance would b nice tho :rolleyes:


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26658836 - 05/09/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I got one right in front of an emergency room bottom right here lol



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26658838 - 05/09/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

And then there is this gem of course

https://god.dailydot.com/er-doctor-tiktok-video/


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26658873 - 05/09/20 12:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You know that doesn’t take away from the situation right?

It’s human to do such things, boosting the the spirit through togetherness and bonding during challenging times, resiliency.

Those photos of those in the medical field don’t prove your point.  It proves you missed the point of the photos.  Plus, I don’t know which hospital they are in, could be one with little to no patients, or ones with many patients, but that’s beyond the point.

If you knew the insiders day to day life in a hospital you would know that stuff happens, it’s called having fun.  :rolleyes:

Something dearly needed and valuable to all in such a setting.  Covid or no Covid.

Ever see pictures of soldiers goofing off during war? (Yep)  Does that mean war is fake? (Nope) .... my point exactly.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26658969 - 05/09/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hospital workers carrying mock dead covid victim lol



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26658970 - 05/09/20 01:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Here is some life saving police trying to harass and arrest a dummy



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26659014 - 05/09/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26659017 - 05/09/20 02:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If this was on my facebook feed the comments would be full of things like, good he got what he deserved, if the beatings even save just 1 life it is worth it. We should free violent offenders who will burglarize our houses and murder us in our sleep to make room for him.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26659027 - 05/09/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i could infer that from all of your poasts


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: cannabinated]
    #26659034 - 05/09/20 02:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

People at my work think hiking in the woods should still be illegal, recently it was just re legalized. Half the people at my work seem mad about it. I did not want to live in the dimension where 1984 became reality.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26659038 - 05/09/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

theyre all dumb

but some parks can get crowded out there there are majestic sights and narrow trails

there should be middle ground tho with social distancing


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    #26659040 - 05/09/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Oh local in the city parks were still open, but not the tennis courts or play grounds, but the fields were and the small trails, but big long trails that go to tops of mountains were closed, trails very isolated out in butt fuck nowhere closed.

Half the people here agree with this, this flex of the government to test our submissiveness and relative IQ


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26659047 - 05/09/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This ones from Australia, every government is doing the experiment, even social distancing out so fucking far in the middle of butt fuck nowhere the government will fucking fly a chopper out to get you.





and unbelievably even people on a site like this are ok with what is going on.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26659117 - 05/09/20 03:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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and unbelievably even people on a site like this are ok with what is going on.




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    #26659178 - 05/09/20 04:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26659332 - 05/09/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Till airborn ebola is here there is no good reason to lose any more rights. Theyre eroded so hard already




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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26659510 - 05/09/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I'ma get rich while ya'll are livin' in fear.



Good luck spending it when you're in the hospital paying through the nose, dead or having a vulnerable family member get it, get sick or die.





Hahahhaha, you got me shakin' in my boots, partner.  What is with the fear crowd always coming with graphic threats?  I can make money from home, I don't have to leave if I don't want to.  I can leave without fear.  If I get sick I either won't know it or it will be mild.  Unfortunately, despite your wishes, the likelihood that I or anyone close to me will suffer from this virus are infinitesimal. 

Like I said, have fun with your fear factory.  I'ma get rich and swole and meditate on the higher planes.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 2
    #26659761 - 05/09/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Only the weak get scared or sick. :whatyougonnado:


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    #26660060 - 05/09/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Till airborn ebola is here there is no good reason to lose any more rights. Theyre eroded so hard already




I'm approaching this with an open mind.  What freedoms have been taken away from you?




Here is a shining example, 14 day wait period to get a gun, 10 days before the shut down I bought one, had to wait 14 days, then the shit got all shut down. I was barely able to get my gun. Thank god the store found a loop hole to become essential.

That's just one.

There use not even be a 14 day wait period, for a bit over a year now just handing my gun to my wife to hold is now a felony she has to buy her own lmao.


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    #26660068 - 05/09/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That’s what your anus is chapped about?  Really?


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    #26660111 - 05/09/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Parents are getting arrested for letting their kids play on play grounds right now, things like this though, shouldn't be need pointing out as it should be common knowledge.

Gun stores are mostly if not all closed down right now at the same time.

You see a problem with that?


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26660118 - 05/09/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

People are being arrested for not social distancing lol, let me guess, you are ok with this?


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    #26660129 - 05/09/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, wouldn't jump straight to the 2nd amendment.  Right to vote was taken from many, right to due process is largely gone since the gov't shut down, right to assemble obviously.  Free speech is largely trampled, but that depends on if you consider online platforms to be open forums, where they are privately owned (although publicly traded).


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26660132 - 05/09/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Literally lost every right you have, you can assume at this point you have non as they can decide to disregard any right they want and people will apparently just let them without resistance.

And I go right to the 2nd amendment because thats what you use to fight back for your rights once you lose them all.


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    #26660139 - 05/09/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This thread

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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26660144 - 05/09/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They went full 1984 with text lines to report social distancing violators, report a business that is open, report someone for going on a joy ride with no destination. My state it was and might still be, illegal to drive without a destination.

And its every country, Australia will come get you if your social distancing so hard they have to fly a fucking chopper out to get you.



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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26660149 - 05/09/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Literally lost every right you have, you can assume at this point you have non as they can decide to disregard any right they want and people will apparently just let them without resistance.

And I go right to the 2nd amendment because thats what you use to fight back for your rights once you lose them all.




I don't have anything against guns, but I have never understood this argument.  If the government mobilized the military, there's little a civilian or group of civilians is really gonna be able to do.  They can just drone strike you from afar.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26660152 - 05/09/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Did you know that people in the Military are just like me and you and most will not just start slaughtering their own citizens because they want freedom, when they leave the military they're gonna want freedom themselves.

Also the government will never do this because the moment they do, every enemy of our country can now freely attack us and it will be easy to win and they can do it without anyone stopping them because they can act like it is just and they are helping the poor people of the USA get their freedom.


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    #26660177 - 05/09/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, it is a far fetched claim, but I think it depends on how it is framed to the military.  A common war tactic is to dehumanize the enemy to make it easier to kill them. 

The American civil war is an example that shows that Americans are capable of viewing other Americans as the enemy and killing them.


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    #26660181 - 05/09/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That was over 100 years ago when women couldn't vote and black people were enslaved.

North vs south also set boundaries on who was who, when groups all over the country are burning politicians houses and taking out police stations, they won't even know who is who.

What will they do target and slaughter random people everywhere? Soldiers families are random people ever where.

They could never win a gurilla war, we can't win them overseas we definitely couldn't win one here.


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    #26660194 - 05/09/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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You know that doesn’t take away from the situation right?

It’s human to do such things, boosting the the spirit through togetherness and bonding during challenging times, resiliency.

Those photos of those in the medical field don’t prove your point.  It proves you missed the point of the photos.  Plus, I don’t know which hospital they are in, could be one with little to no patients, or ones with many patients, but that’s beyond the point.

If you knew the insiders day to day life in a hospital you would know that stuff happens, it’s called having fun.  :rolleyes:

Something dearly needed and valuable to all in such a setting.  Covid or no Covid.

Ever see pictures of soldiers goofing off during war? (Yep)  Does that mean war is fake? (Nope) .... my point exactly.



Exactly right BA, not only is what you said spot on but there's been many news stories showing the story behind those picture, they've interviewed doctors from pictures like that and that's exactly what they said. They have to deal with unimaginable human suffering and see people die with no way to help everyday. They live in their cars and work many more hours then they used to which was already a lot of hours. To keep morale up you dont all sob when your dealing with this day in and out they do it as a way to boost spirits a bit. That is a shameless incredibly stupid meme showing why it's okay to have a different opinion about opening the country but  using pics of doctors trying to brighten spirits among staff and implying that it's all a conspiracy is willfully being a terrible person and spitting in the face of everyone. Same thing with the other meme tasteless bullshit


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26660204 - 05/09/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Before this, people died in hospitals, my dad died in one, every single day people die in hospitals before Corona, where were the tik tok videos then lmao.


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    #26660208 - 05/09/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

We went from videos of nurses praying in groups begging god for help and crying in late march early April to fucking tik tok dances lmao.


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    #26660215 - 05/09/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What is wild is the Hospital in the New York park was barely used, people staked the thing out and recorded it. Oh yeah and it didn't even have running water, the portopotties had just hand sanitizer outside of them, thats what all the doctors there used, just fucking hand sanitizer lmao. Take a knar shit and now need to see a patient? Hand sanitizer.

The Navy Hospital ship saw 187 patients, they didn't even remotely use the number of ventilators they had despite the Mayor crying they needed more and then it turned out they had way more than they needed all along.

But you are suppose to believe endless doom and gloom and New York got hit the hardest and that's what happened there, in the location that got hit the hardest.


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    #26660222 - 05/09/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You have tunnel vision budman.  You need to begin to comprehend that the world is nuanced and complex beyond imagining.  I know it’s much easier to believe and thus perceive (and vice versa) that things are 1 dimensional ,  but they simply are not.

It’s like this.  If someone calls you a poor fucking idiot with the IQ of a cum crusted sock that will never know love, and is a sad man who is really just scared and alone trying to make it in life -  They would be missing the whole picture as to your person and life and the human nature that you are naturally endowed with.  Is it fair? Is it accurate? No, it’s partial.  We live in strange times and that can be scary - I get it.  Maybe it’s how you cope Idk.  But cmon.

Therefore, I don’t immediately start calling you something like that just because you can’t see things clearly- also because you aren’t merely those things.  Sometimes you unknowingly come off that way, but I’m positive there is more to you than an internet troll.

There’s more than 1 dimension too the current major situation going on in the world I’m glad you get that, I get both sides and the sides of those sides - but without the appropriate balance in views, and without clear discernment you may as well just talk into your pillow.  Look up confirmation bias, you can do so much better then your doing.  It’s a shame really.  But I understand some people have a hard time helping themselves, most do, me included.  I make the similar mistakes all the time, but eventually one has to grow up, or risk being a loser their whole life.  So here’s a helping hand - gloves or no gloves. Time to grow up a bit.

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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26660227 - 05/09/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My local hospital has been begging the mayor to let them resume normal operations for weeks, they are hardly getting any Corona patients at all, my area use to be called ground zero before new york blew up we were the epicenter lol.

I have had the virus my self, I know lots of people who have had it, my wife works at a nursing home and some of the elderly there fell to the virus, 10 also fell to common pneumonia not corona related.

The economic damage from this will be far worse than the virus, eventually that economic damage will effect you, possibly you might wind up homeless and unable to sprew the things the government and media brain washed you to believe.


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    #26660231 - 05/09/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I’ll be just fine.  Instead of spreading your paranoia I would suggest you use the effort you put into such posts into something more productive.  Find a middle ground, discuss alternative options in a way that can navigate the differences of the groups divided.

Any thing but this, trolling without even a lick of humor is bad form man, at least inject some comedy into it.


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    #26660232 - 05/09/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I doubt that, right now and it is just getting started, 1 in 5 working Americans are on unemployment.


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    #26660236 - 05/09/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thankfully I have paid my house off almost 80% and can refinance my payments to lower than an apartment in a ghetto if I have to, most people will foreclose, shit 25% of people didn't pay their mortgage last month lol. I have almost 20k saved up right now and will get unemployment for a while if I wind up getting laid off and my rental units, thankfully for now my renters haven't flexed the rent strike on me yet, legally they have no obligation to pay right now.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26660238 - 05/09/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Your assumption being that somehow you know my situation enough that I’m going to be worse off, right?

Well, sorry to say - but your  presumptions have misled you again, and that leads you to being wrong about me.

Same thing happens when you over generalize to everyone as if such a thing can be done when talking about complex issues.

I forget myself online all the time online and say stupid shit until someone calls me back out and reminds me.  Just reminding you in good faith

I get your side, but what to do?  In a way that compromises with those you oppose in view?  Be realistic or funny at least.


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    #26660241 - 05/09/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Very few people are as well off as me, its a simple statistic that you are probably a loser which is why you self projected yourself onto me by implying I am a loser.


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    #26660248 - 05/09/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ive had a fortuitous life, and I’m grateful for it, but I understand how you might be confused. 
I’m sorry you find the times so challenging budman.  I know it’s tough.  However,  your outbursts are effete, and I still wish you good tidings.


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    #26660262 - 05/09/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Its not challenging for me, not yet it will take years of a collapsed economy for it to do much to me but I really do see that as a possibility if people like you justify allowing it get that bad.

My last job was working for the government, it paid more than my current but my current job has way more opportunity and its max pay at my current position is higher than my last job and my last job made be between 70-110k a year depending on how often I worked but I worked for the government, I was paid all that money, and probably 400k a year was wasted on equipment and supplies for me to do my job, and I probably only added 5,000 dollars of value to society off all of that money.

I couldn't take it, I applied at one of the biggest economic drivers of the country and got a job offer for less pay starting, and quit. When I first started working for the government I thought wow amazing I can't believe it I work for the government and share the same HR office with the judge who dismissed my mushroom growing charges. What an amazing country.

To absolutely despising the government they lie cheat and steal from us and just fucking waste it absolute waste.

Between income tax, property tax etc all the taxes fees, its about 50% of my money they take and they just fucking waste it absolutely waste it and then people donate millions and millions to politicians and they fucking waste it.

Now when i go to work, for now its less money but if I don't get laid off it will be way more money than I have ever made in my life in a few years, I get to build the most advanced machine ever designed by man. Over 1 billion parts on the son of a bitch. When i show up for work I add more value than I am paid, what a damn concept.

Don't listen to the government, they're puppets and so are the media. Governments will lie or get bad information and respond to it and then never fucking admit they made a mistake.

That is what is happening with the virus right now.

I was fucking very concerned with the virus in febuary march and early april. I recovered from the virus Early april and by mid april my wifes work had a 100% infection rate.

New data came out, I witnessed first hand what the virus does.

I was able to admit I was wrong. Everyone at my work felt I was over reacting because I was worried about the 6%-13% death rate, thought I was a loon for being over concerned and I was I was foolish to be scared of a Coronavirus, Coronaviruses are normally common colds. It is just a nasty common cold that will become a seasonal common cold in the long run and I over reacted.

When i had the virus at first I experienced an extreme dysphoria, felt very doomed because of the media, fuck the media.


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    #26660304 - 05/09/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If things get really bad in 2-4 years, if push comes to shove, I have 15 pressure cookers and 200 monotubs and lots of other equipment that hasn't been used in many years just sitting around, granted they're probably covered in a lot of dusty and nasty stuff nothing a little soap and water couldn't solve but I told my self I was done with all that.


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    #26660311 - 05/09/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Your going to bust out the grow?  And in the process turn your Mario nature into Wario... :nonono:

Thought you left that life behind for good man.

Jpin,  hopefully it won’t be so dramatic and come to that.  But if it does at least you’ve got some options :thumbup:


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    #26660321 - 05/09/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I do not want that to have to be my option, if something bad were to happen next time, the case will not be dismissed the 2nd time around. It was 50% luck that that was even an option the first time and now I have way more to lose than I did back then. I became somebody back then I just partied my shit hole dick hole off and the most I had to lose was a small collection of cars, a big screen tv and an apartment.


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    #26660328 - 05/09/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



insane person getting fired for making borderline threats of violence


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    #26660333 - 05/09/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What a retard he just lost his job and will never work in that field ever again. How do lawyers make these kinds of mistakes?

Also he will probably now go on an actual mass shooting, he has nothing to live for now his career is gone.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26660373 - 05/09/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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People are being arrested for not social distancing lol, let me guess, you are ok with this?




I've never been more okay with anything in my life.  Pre-corona, people would always stand creepily close to you.  There's nothing worse than waiting in line to pay at Walgreens and have someone literally breathing down your neck and coughing in your face.  I hope people keep their goddamn distance into the future too.  People are fucking disgusting.


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    #26660416 - 05/09/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Flattening the curve doesn't prevent anyone from dying, it just shifts the date several months out, maybe years in some instances unless you flatten it all the damn way to a vaccine which to do safely takes years.


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    #26660418 - 05/09/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Even if it HAD been 80k in 3 months which is wasnt, THOSE NUMBERS REFLECT MORTALITY WITH ZERO SOCIAL CONTROLS. The covid numbers reflect mortality with them

This is seriously not complicated





COVID death numbers are disingenuous. 

Dr Ngozi Ezike, Illinois Department of Public Health:
"I just want to be clear in terms of the definition of "people dying of covid." The case definition is very simplistic, it means at the time of death it was a covid-positive diagnosis. Thats means that if you were in a hospice and had already been given- you know a few weeks to live and you were also found to have covid it would also be counted as a covid death. That means if um technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause but you had COVID at the time it's still listed as a covid death. So um everyone who is listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that COVID was the cause of death, but that they had COVID at the time of death. I hope that's helpful."


full press conference, at 21:30:




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Exactly my brothers son needs brain surgery or he will die by the time has 10 now they can't do it and they're terrified that brain damage will get worse and the seizures might kill him and although they aren't happy with it they understand why it's happening. Child brain surgery is not something you do if they can't guarantee he won't die of COVID in an already risky complicated risky surgery




Are you serious?  There are newborn infants recovering from COVID and instead of getting a needed brain surgery, your nephew's going to get brain damage because you think he might die from something he hasn't even caught???


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26660428 - 05/09/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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    #26660435 - 05/09/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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Even if it HAD been 80k in 3 months which is wasnt, THOSE NUMBERS REFLECT MORTALITY WITH ZERO SOCIAL CONTROLS. The covid numbers reflect mortality with them

This is seriously not complicated





COVID death numbers are disingenuous. 

Dr Ngozi Ezike, Illinois Department of Public Health:
"I just want to be clear in terms of the definition of "people dying of covid." The case definition is very simplistic, it means at the time of death it was a covid-positive diagnosis. Thats means that if you were in a hospice and had already been given- you know a few weeks to live and you were also found to have covid it would also be counted as a covid death. That means if um technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause but you had COVID at the time it's still listed as a covid death. So um everyone who is listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that COVID was the cause of death, but that they had COVID at the time of death. I hope that's helpful."






No that's not actually helpful.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26656003#26656003


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    #26660442 - 05/09/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I mean that was a literal quote from a public health official, not my opinion.

Here's one where she says more than 90% of the COVID deaths had prior health conditions. 



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    #26660450 - 05/09/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yes



Media source for the 80,000 for that winter flu season

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/


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    #26660458 - 05/09/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I don't want to catch this shit.  It's a real virus and it randomly fucks some people up.  But to pretend that the numbers being used aren't disingenuous is absurd. 

She literally said "That means if um technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause but you had COVID at the time it's still listed as a covid death. So um everyone who is listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that COVID was the cause of death, but that they had COVID at the time of death"


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    #26660463 - 05/09/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You said the numbers are disingenuous and put up a quote trying to claim they're overcounted. The data we have says if anything they're undercounted, especially since many nursing home and at-home deaths are not counted in most places still, and that's where a large percentage occur.

Pre-existing conditions have nothing to do with the exponential increase in all-cause mortality.

If I have lung cancer and get hit by a bus, we don't blame the lung cancer.

Pre-existing conditions are not death sentences and most people in the country have at least one.


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    #26660470 - 05/09/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If I have lung cancer and get hit by a bus, we don't blame the lung cancer.
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    #26660477 - 05/09/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I said the numbers are disingenuous, because they are.  If you are counted as a covid death despite a clear other reason for death, then that number is disingenuous.  The fact that there are people who are dying of it and not being counted doesn't negate the inaccuracy of the recorded numbers.  The public health official literally said just because it's listed as a covid death doesn't mean the cause of death is covid.


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    #26660481 - 05/09/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If I have lung cancer and get hit by a bus, we don't blame the lung cancer.
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:cookiemonster:




According to the public health official, if a person is in hospice and has weeks to live and then is diagnosed with covid after that fact and they die, they are counted as a covid death.  So the reality is contradicting your position.


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    #26660486 - 05/09/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

None of that negates the fact that the recorded numbers are disingenuous.


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    #26660492 - 05/09/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/04/20/covid-count

https://www.businessinsider.com/yale-study-excess-deaths-nearly-twice-official-covid-19-count-2020-4?amp

Fact check: Is US coronavirus death toll inflated? Experts agree it's likely the opposite
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2973481001

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/failure-to-count-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-could-dramatically-skew-us-numbers-137212




My wife works at a nursing home and they have been working closely with the CDC this entire time. The CDC diagnosed 100% of the residents and staff with Covid before the tests were even done lol, though in the end 100% of people did catch it.

They've been recording all covid activity this entire time.

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    #26660504 - 05/09/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Here is one fucked thing pro lock down people need to understand, healthy people under 60 who catch and recover from the virus are going to be immune for a good while.

Old people who catch and recover, may not, like we catch chicken pox and become immune, and its immune for life cause it hides deep in our nerves and any time it tries to lurk its way out our immune system beat it back, but old peoples immune systems are so weak often times their chicken pox come back, and sometimes old people die of the chicken pox they caught as a baby.

So the best thing you can do to save the old people, is achieve herd immunity it some form.


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    #26660505 - 05/09/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's also weird how these media sites are making claims that go against what the public health official has stated is protocol.  If they are counting people who are dying already and then caught covid, then how would they be missing people in nursing homes who die of covid?  That was her literal example.  I'm pretty sure every place is jumping to get on them covid dollars to, so I don't see why they wouldn't be testing these people who are dying?  Isn't it in the interest of the surviving nursing home patients to know if the person who just died had corona?  Yeah I don't see them not testing people.

Those sites are all speculation?  It "could be" "might be as much as" "twice as high!"  15,000 excess deaths!  That article states that 53,000 people have died from corona, (a number which we know to be disingenuous as per admittance by the public health official).  The article states that the 15,000 excess deaths are not all attributable to corona, but the title is that it might be twice as high!  That would require 53,000 excess deaths correct?


Here's some happy news:
https://6abc.com/health/newborn-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19-makes-full-recovery-/6160627/


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    #26660511 - 05/09/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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None of that negates the fact that the recorded numbers are disingenuous.




No, they prove the fact that the numbers are disingenuous in both directions.

Acting like the miniscule amount of cases where someone was already going to die in the small time period where they had COVID, and COVID played no role in their death, makes any real difference is disingenuous.

On the micro level there's number fudging in both directions, it's impossible to be 100% accurate. On the macro level it's pretty simple to just compare historical all-cause mortality to the estimated COVID deaths and see there is under-reporting going on.

People keep using quotes like yours to push a narrative that there is underreporting going on. So what the quote said has truth to to it, asking if it's helpful... not really.


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    #26660512 - 05/09/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Testing is just 1 tool in the kit of medical professional to diagnose a patient.  :rolleyes: 

Covid can be diagnosed with a degree of accuracy without the kind of “test” you guys keep referring to.

Facebook memes and the like, generally are not always a good way to inform yourself.  And if you do, your just like the plebs you look down on.


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    #26660518 - 05/09/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

When those numbers are used to justify injecting people with a vaccine against their will, maybe then it will matter that they are counting people who died of blatant causes other than covid as a covid death.


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    #26660521 - 05/09/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This isn't a facebook meme, it's a press briefing by public officials.



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    #26660524 - 05/09/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

May as well worry about everything else that utterly useless to worry about if you are going to go down that route.

You may need a Xanax, or you may need to come off the Xanax...not sure....


Btw. You understand you have to understand any one single persons voice while considering all the others right?

One official saying something not in line, or different, from others isn’t neccesarily an indication of a grand conspiracy or hoax.


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    #26660525 - 05/09/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Testing is just 1 tool in the kit of medical professional to diagnose a patient.  :rolleyes: 

Covid can be diagnosed with a degree of accuracy without the kind of “test” you guys keep referring to.

Facebook memes and the like, generally are not always a good way to inform yourself.  And if you do, your just like the plebs you look down on.




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    #26660526 - 05/09/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That can be done you know.  Less degree of confidence in the diagnosis for sure, but it’s not a grift you oaf.

When something doesn’t fit your world view, you guys just lose it... I swear.  Confirmation bias anyone?


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    #26660529 - 05/09/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Confrimation bias? Lol this is my real life experience, they assume everyone there will catch it so just automatically diagnosed everyone.

The place still had to do their own medical crap, they still had to test people who started catching it and make choices for them and call ambulances.

But the CDC just automatically without any confirmation added everyone to their tally.


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    #26660533 - 05/09/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Oh and once everyone who caught it and everyone recovered, thats when the CDC actually showed up to test people to actually make sure the facility was covid free. Which it did wind up being 100% covid free, and recently they just allowed visitations again, but I think the visits have to be outside the facility for now.


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    #26660536 - 05/09/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Public health veterans and those who study how information is disseminated said shifting predictions are common in emergency situations, which only fuels conspiracy theories.

“Finding anomalous data during extraordinary circumstances is not unsuspected,” said Dr. Jane Donovan, research director of Harvard University’s Shorenstein Institute, who studies misinformation. “It's just that right now we have a set of armchair epidemiologists who are looking for discrepancies everywhere and turning them into conspiracies.”

Lobelo said counting the presumptive deaths was scientifically accurate, saying that flu-related deaths were counted the same way, even if the primary cause was different.

“The cause of death could be a heart attack, or cardiac arrest,” he said. “But if you're able to identify Covid-19 in a patient that had heart disease, and that actually died because of a heart attack, you really do know that Covid-19 is the actual cause of death. Otherwise that patient would have not died, despite having that risk factor.”





https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/07/trump-death-toll-coronavirus-241819

Yes, there will be a few that slip through the cracks, those miniscule numbers change nothing on the macro level unless we start infecting hoards of cruise ships with thousands of people on them then sinking them and declaring them all COVID deaths or something equally as unlikely and absurd.

And there is no incentive on hospitals to misreport COVID deaths. Every hospital in the country wants death counts as small as possible so that they can reopen as quickly as possible and get back to treatments that actually make them money and keep them in business, not medicare COVID rates and a 5k check from the feds that they might get anyway just for a positive test result.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26660539 - 05/09/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Dr Birx saying if someone dies from a previous health condition with covid-19 then they count it and other countries don't.



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    #26660540 - 05/09/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Your life experience is limited compared millions and billions of people, andto the whole picture.  I’m not disputing that numbers are screwy or that the governments response to the pandemic isn’t insane on some levels, or that the virus is not deadly for a large portion of the population. Neither am I disputing that there are a lot of people over reacting.  Just pointing at that while that can be one facet of the truth, there’s all the other damn facets, which when ignored in favor of a 1 dimensional view on things contributes to the confusion and chaos, in fact , it works against the very people who promulgate such a view.  So I’m not denying your experience - just your filtering and interpretation of the situation at large.


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    #26660543 - 05/09/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

And I am just saying that if they're doing that there, god knows what they're doing elsewhere!

You are the one who is 1 dimensional.


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    #26660545 - 05/09/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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This isn't a facebook meme, it's a press briefing by public officials.






For all those shouting conspiracy theory.  Jump to 15 minutes in this above video.  Illinois press briefing.

She says, technically, even if you die of a clear alternate cause but are found to have COVID at the same time, it is listed as a COVID death.


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    #26660547 - 05/09/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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And I am just saying that if they're doing that there, god knows what they're doing elsewhere!

You are the one who is 1 dimensional.




1) yeah, okay.  but that doesn’t take away from the reality of the situation, just makes it more complex.

2). Ouch man...right in the feelz. :sad:


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    #26660558 - 05/09/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That's why people think something is up.  They're not allowing normal procedures saying they don't want the hospitals to get overwhelmed, and there's these blow-up tents with no one there.

One of the posters above is agreeing that it's better for his nephew to get brain damage and have seizures than to have surgery because he might die of a disease he doesn't even have(even though newborns are recovering) but might catch by being in a place that has the some of the highest sanitary standards. 

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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26660559 - 05/09/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The situation is complex, but its also fucked. The virus sucks, people will die, I had it, I can't smell rubbing alcohol anymore oh well maybe one day that will come back, but I can smell MPK just fine so who knows if the virus did that or not and who cares.

What matters is that the government is over reaching in extremely dangerous ways and that is way worse than this virus.

If the virus was actually worse than its turning out to be then fine you know sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette but shits gone too far.

Thankfully things are starting to go reverse but a lot of people don't want that to happen, I would say at this point the majority and that means that shits going to get really fucked in a lot of different ways that dwarf the consequences of a common cold style virus that is only dangerous because its Novel and once its no longer Novel will fade into our memories and become just another common cold, kinda like h1n1 spanish flu is now 10x less deadly than a regular seasonal flu when we have a h1n1 outbreak, and the deadly h3n2 flu outbreak in the 60s is now one of the most common flus there is and is barely as deadly as it was then.

If we had airborn ebola fine police should beat social distancers in the streets or shoot them from a distance like they're doing in the philippines.

But that is not the level of disease we are dealing with.

We reacted like a 6-13% fatality rate and now its nowhere even close to that,

but people still want to react like its that deadly and thats the fucking problem.

Now the governments using it as a mkultra 2.0 experiment and people are ok with that.

Life tip MK ultra never stopped and Bill Clinton apology for it in the 90's was 2 faced.

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    #26660565 - 05/09/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ok not much to dispute with that.  :nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26660571 - 05/09/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

MrBlueYoMind said:
Dr Birx saying if someone dies from a previous health condition with covid-19 then they count it and other countries don't.






You can find 100 quotes saying the same thing you've already said and I've already agreed with you on. You don't seem to be grasping how little it actually makes a difference. Do you know the concept of statistical significance?

My wife's hospital has roughly a dozen COVID deaths per day right now. Probably around 95% of the deaths they have per week are literally hospitalized for COVID alone when they die. They are COVID deaths. Others are people coming in undiagnosed but with strokes and heart attacks, then found to have COVID in the autopsy. Statistically the most likely assumption is to assume COVID triggered the death unless the autopsy shows otherwise, on a macro level those are the odds you work with and they're astronomically high.

The conspiracy is people not understanding how epidemiology or cause of death reports work and using this to pretend people are getting hit by buses and declared COVID deaths left and right or something. That is not what's happening right now.

And let me add again even though no one seems to address it anyway:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26656003#26656003


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26660585 - 05/09/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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What matters is that the government is over reaching in extremely dangerous ways and that is way worse than this virus.




I'm still not convinced, though.  You cited a waiting period for guns and people getting arrested for not maintaining social distancing.  That's hardly what I would call an over reach.  You can still buy your guns and you can still hang out with your friends.  Nobody has taken that away.

It's because of this virus that many local governments let people OUT of jail for stupid shit.  How is that overreaching to let people out of jail?


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    #26660588 - 05/09/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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    #26660590 - 05/09/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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budmanman said:
What matters is that the government is over reaching in extremely dangerous ways and that is way worse than this virus.




I'm still not convinced, though.  You cited a waiting period for guns and people getting arrested for not maintaining social distancing.  That's hardly what I would call an over reach.  You can still buy your guns and you can still hang out with your friends.  Nobody has taken that away.

It's because of this virus that many local governments let people OUT of jail for stupid shit.  How is that overreaching to let people out of jail?




being arrested for going on a joy drive without getting out of your car ever, not over reach,

Being arrested for hanging out with your friends, not over reach.

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    #26660592 - 05/09/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Florida man released because of corona virus back in jail for murder derp

LMAO but they're arresting people for going to the beach?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-man-released-jail-coronavirus-arrested-murder-charges/story?id=70161179


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    #26660598 - 05/09/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You fucking idiots

"Joseph Edward Williams was released March 19 following the issuance of an administrative order aimed at lowering the risk of COVID-19 spread within the Hillsborough County jail, police said. Williams, 26, was being held there on $2,500 bond for felony and misdemeanor drug charges.

Seven days later, Williams allegedly shot and killed someone in Tampa, said police, who didn't disclose additional details on the victim or the crime.

Williams was arrested April 13 for second-degree murder, resisting an officer with violence, felon in possession of a firearm, possession of heroin and possession of drug paraphernalia, authorities said. A judge set bail at $250,000."

"Police said Williams has a long criminal history that includes felony burglary and drug convictions."


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    #26660603 - 05/09/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

and no I am not saying the legal system isn't fucked up and broken, it sure is, a lot of people are in there who shouldn't be and don't deserve to be, but a lot of people who do deserve to be are in there and being fucking let out lol .


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    #26660610 - 05/09/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I am in a complete dystopian society, this has to still be a drug trip, cause no way any of this is real, when criminals are released to make room for law abiding citizens, where covid patients are released from hospitals to nursing homes to make room for the people they will infect, it can't possibly be real, and most people can't be too stupid to not see what is happening.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: budmanman]
    #26660631 - 05/09/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you guys are struggling to comprehend how COVID deaths are counted, don't even attempt to try to understand flu death counting:

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The 25,000 to 69,000 numbers that Trump cited do not represent counted flu deaths per year; they are estimates that the CDC produces by multiplying the number of flu death counts reported by various coefficients produced through complicated algorithms. These coefficients are based on assumptions of how many cases, hospitalizations, and deaths they believe went unreported. In the last six flu seasons, the CDC’s reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths—that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus—has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620, which far lower than the numbers commonly repeated by public officials and even public health experts.





https://scientificamerican.com/observations/comparing-covid-19-deaths-to-flu-deaths-is-like-comparing-apples-to-oranges/



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US data on influenza deaths are false and misleading.The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) acknowledges a difference between flu death and flu associated death yet uses the terms interchangeably. Additionally, there are significant statistical incompatibilities between official estimates and national vital statistics data. Compounding these problems is a marketing of fear—a CDC communications strategy in which medical experts "predict dire outcomes" during flu seasons.




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    #26660634 - 05/09/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

We should believe that link that goes against what experts say which it even says goes against experts, but feevers knows exactly what is going on!


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    #26660641 - 05/09/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The second link is literally from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. And it's common knowledge.



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    #26660644 - 05/09/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I commented before your edit showed up to me, but thanks for pointing out that the government admits the information we get is trash so stop believing it!


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    #26660649 - 05/09/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

6 months ago I worked for the government and the government was so shit I had to quit I couldn't take watching how shit the government was even took a pay cut to get the fuck out, I was on break half my shift too lol. I mean it was great if your lazy and want money and are ok with watching shitloads of money being wasted. But that wasn't for me.

But what sucks i my last job was considered essential and my current job is only essential because of governor bribery and I am probably gonna get laid of so I should of kept my shit waste of money job at the gobment.


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    #26660666 - 05/09/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

5 posts in a row. 
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    #26660668 - 05/09/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I commented before your edit showed up to me, but thanks for pointing out that the government admits the information we get is trash so stop believing it!




The flu numbers are an inflated CDC estimate based on predictions and algorithms.

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    #26660703 - 05/09/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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People are being arrested for not social distancing lol, let me guess, you are ok with this?




I've never been more okay with anything in my life.  Pre-corona, people would always stand creepily close to you.  There's nothing worse than waiting in line to pay at Walgreens and have someone literally breathing down your neck and coughing in your face.  I hope people keep their goddamn distance into the future too.  People are fucking disgusting.




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    #26660749 - 05/09/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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budmanman said:
What matters is that the government is over reaching in extremely dangerous ways and that is way worse than this virus.




I'm still not convinced, though.  You cited a waiting period for guns and people getting arrested for not maintaining social distancing.  That's hardly what I would call an over reach.  You can still buy your guns and you can still hang out with your friends.  Nobody has taken that away.

It's because of this virus that many local governments let people OUT of jail for stupid shit.  How is that overreaching to let people out of jail?




being arrested for going on a joy drive without getting out of your car ever, not over reach,

Being arrested for hanging out with your friends, not over reach.

What in the communism is going on here?



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    #26660784 - 05/09/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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5 posts in a row. 
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it can't possibly be real, and most people can't be too stupid to not see what is happening.



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    #26660806 - 05/09/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Survival? Lmao snitches are now more scared of their peers than the virus.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-missouri-lockdown-breakers-details-online-st-louis-county-a9497271.html?fbclid=IwAR1DsqDAt8kciNZEeZidfb_ATUHaA0efLHBACb-1Fl3RakbUiVxJxKSU_Uk



People violating lockdown some going as far as wiping their noses on people and coughing on people during a pandemic with very lax rules enacted compared to the rest of the world deserve to be "snitched on" it's not a marijuana deal it's willfully bringing unnessicary danger of death to your community during the most serious medical crisis in over 100 years.  The reason the hardest hit countries are opening back up cautiously is because they had to fill out forms to go get groceries for over 4 months straight, you're lucky we aren't doing that.


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    #26660830 - 05/09/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

"deserved to be snitched on" lmao dude they snitched on businesses etc, wiping your nose on people and shit was already assault. You're not suppose to deep throat the boot.


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    #26660880 - 05/09/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Tell me how it's okay for people to wave Trump flags and claim they're getting their freedom taken away when Trumps administration issued clear guidelines on how to get back to work? That woman who got arrested for opening her salon did it days before just SOME guidelines are met. There 4 phases of reopening according to Trump ONE of the first requirements is seeing a decline in cases for 14 days. This is to make sure when people don't go back to work they don't just get sick and die or spreading to the vulernable. She had to wait days until like everyone else did. Thats the privileged egotism we are up against. I'M unemployed, IM hurting financially, I haven't gotten sick, I haven't lost a loved one so I shouldn't have to suffer.

When the truth is somewhere in the middle, yes the financial and mental suffering is undeniably great and we need to reopen where those parameters have been met and we can implement safety measures in opening. One thing is clear everyone's entitled to their opinion but I've lost all respect for people calling the entire pandemic a hoax, it's sickening to me honestly sickening. The virus doesn't keep me up at night as much as morons who don't take the virus seriously.


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26660909 - 05/09/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Just wait till the extra 600 stops and then years later you're still having a hard time finding work and they pumped in shotloads of money into circulation devaluing the dollar and now everything cost more but you can't get access to funds. Then finally you will realize what was happening.


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    #26660912 - 05/09/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Tell me how it's okay for people to wave Trump flags and claim they're getting their freedom taken away when Trumps administration issued clear guidelines on how to get back to work? That woman who got arrested for opening her salon did it days before just SOME guidelines are met. There 4 phases of reopening according to Trump ONE of the first requirements is seeing a decline in cases for 14 days. This is to make sure when people don't go back to work they don't just get sick and die or spreading to the vulernable. She had to wait days until like everyone else did. Thats the privileged egotism we are up against. I'M unemployed, IM hurting financially, I haven't gotten sick, I haven't lost a loved one so I shouldn't have to suffer.

When the truth is somewhere in the middle, yes the financial and mental suffering is undeniably great and we need to reopen where those parameters have been met and we can implement safety measures in opening. One thing is clear everyone's entitled to their opinion but I've lost all respect for people calling the entire pandemic a hoax, it's sickening to me honestly sickening. The virus doesn't keep me up at night as much as morons who don't take the virus seriously.




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    #26660933 - 05/09/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Oh man now they're going to take cash assistance away from people who are poor and refuse to take a mandatory corona virus test.

poor people tend to be the biggest category of people scared of tests, vaccines etc.

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    #26660941 - 05/09/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have not validated this only just saw it on facebook by someone who re shared it, but at the bottom it says if you test positive they will take your children? The rest is cut off.

Could be fake for all I know right now but people are fucking spazzing the fuck out lol

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    #26660975 - 05/09/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

thats from twitter, not fb. if the adults test positive for corona and need quarantined, then of course the children will be temporarily removed from the house for their own health and safety.


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    #26661012 - 05/09/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If both parents are incapacitated due to the virus, should they not then be placed in the care of a healthy adult that can feed them and clean them?  If both parents have to go to the hospital, should the kids be left home to fend for themselves?


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    #26661057 - 05/09/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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you mean storming a black mayors office with assault rifles and nazi flags?




if you actually watch footage from the protest you'll see that the posters they had with swastikas were calling the major a nazi and other rhetoric comparing her actions to fascism.

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    #26661068 - 05/09/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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    #26661082 - 05/09/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If the bill for the $2k a month per person (which is supposed to be retroactive to include the shelter in place months and lock down duration for the entirety of the pandemic post national emergency declaration date) for those making under I think... $110,000 annually then pretty much most people crying about the lockdown and the virus and not being able to go to the stores without a mask -  crying about how it’s so hard to sit at home and relax and watch movies and drink beer and hang out with their households - they can all just keep crying and bitching.  :shrug: 

That’s if the bill passes.  Even if it doesn’t, a portion of the people who cry about it, are just spoiled, deluded, and mostly ignorant.

I won’t even bother explaining why any more.  It’s all out there if you really wanna know.  Those people are just going to have to adapt and live and learn.  Sacrifice, I think that’s what they call it.  Shouldn’t be impossible given that so many claim to love the country.


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    #26661170 - 05/09/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If the bill for the $2k a month per person (which is supposed to be retroactive to include the shelter in place months and lock down duration for the entirety of the pandemic post national emergency declaration date) for those making under I think... $110,000 annually then pretty much most people crying about the lockdown and the virus and not being able to go to the stores without a mask -  crying about how it’s so hard to sit at home and relax and watch movies and drink beer and hang out with their households - they can all just keep crying and bitching.  :shrug: 

That’s if the bill passes.  Even if it doesn’t, a portion of the people who cry about it, are just spoiled, deluded, and mostly ignorant.

I won’t even bother explaining why any more.  It’s all out there if you really wanna know.  Those people are just going to have to adapt and live and learn.  Sacrifice, I think that’s what they call it.  Shouldn’t be impossible given that so many claim to love the country.





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    #26661815 - 05/10/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

2:09-3:00 seems kind of relevant to the discussion, and 3:00-3:45 sounds reeeallll familiar.




ALSO

The governor of IL stated they won't reopen IL until there is a vaccine, which suggests they plan to vaccinate everyone.  But keep on letting speculative websites reinforce your denial so you can "cross that bridge when you get to it" when you don't even believe there is a river ahead.

Likewise, if there are as many as "15,000 excess deaths"(which is way less than twice the reported number, despite the source of the 15,000 excess deaths claiming it might be twice as high as reported) and you allow that speculation to drive your insistence that covid is more deadly than is being reported, then you must accept the fact that since most people have little to no symptoms, the amount of people who have COVID and don't die or even know they have it is also much higher, which when factored into the numbers likely brings the death rate DOWN, especially when considering the publicly revealed criteria for "death with covid". 


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    #26661843 - 05/10/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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If the bill for the $2k a month per person (which is supposed to be retroactive to include the shelter in place months and lock down duration for the entirety of the pandemic post national emergency declaration date) for those making under I think... $110,000 annually then pretty much most people crying about the lockdown and the virus and not being able to go to the stores without a mask -  crying about how it’s so hard to sit at home and relax and watch movies and drink beer and hang out with their households - they can all just keep crying and bitching.  :shrug: 

That’s if the bill passes.  Even if it doesn’t, a portion of the people who cry about it, are just spoiled, deluded, and mostly ignorant.

I won’t even bother explaining why any more.  It’s all out there if you really wanna know.  Those people are just going to have to adapt and live and learn.  Sacrifice, I think that’s what they call it.  Shouldn’t be impossible given that so many claim to love the country.




The bill won't pass, there's no way to fund it.

Despite the fact that this situation is a wet dream for the obese couch potatoes everywhere, there are in fact active people who are not fulfilled by sitting on their ass, absorbing television, and drinking beer.


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    #26662270 - 05/10/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It seems like this is how a country fails. Let God sort 'em out.


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    #26662405 - 05/10/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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2:09-3:00 seems kind of relevant to the discussion, and 3:00-3:45 sounds reeeallll familiar.




ALSO

The governor of IL stated they won't reopen IL until there is a vaccine, which suggests they plan to vaccinate everyone.  But keep on letting speculative websites reinforce your denial so you can "cross that bridge when you get to it" when you don't even believe there is a river ahead.

Likewise, if there are as many as "15,000 excess deaths"(which is way less than twice the reported number, despite the source of the 15,000 excess deaths claiming it might be twice as high as reported) and you allow that speculation to drive your insistence that covid is more deadly than is being reported, then you must accept the fact that since most people have little to no symptoms, the amount of people who have COVID and don't die or even know they have it is also much higher, which when factored into the numbers likely brings the death rate DOWN, especially when considering the publicly revealed criteria for "death with covid". 




Indeed, I thought the new research was in Orange county but it was LA county, since I got mixed up about counties and used some data I read about LA county and said it was Orange county someone accused me of being a liar and making stuff up etc and since I wasn't 100% sure were I was mixed up I just moved on lol.

This video is lit and presents this ridiculous reality we are dealing with, with quality humor.


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    #26662441 - 05/10/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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If the bill for the $2k a month per person (which is supposed to be retroactive to include the shelter in place months and lock down duration for the entirety of the pandemic post national emergency declaration date) for those making under I think... $110,000 annually then pretty much most people crying about the lockdown and the virus and not being able to go to the stores without a mask -  crying about how it’s so hard to sit at home and relax and watch movies and drink beer and hang out with their households - they can all just keep crying and bitching.  :shrug: 

That’s if the bill passes.  Even if it doesn’t, a portion of the people who cry about it, are just spoiled, deluded, and mostly ignorant.

I won’t even bother explaining why any more.  It’s all out there if you really wanna know.  Those people are just going to have to adapt and live and learn.  Sacrifice, I think that’s what they call it.  Shouldn’t be impossible given that so many claim to love the country.




The bill won't pass, there's no way to fund it.

Despite the fact that this situation is a wet dream for the obese couch potatoes everywhere, there are in fact active people who are not fulfilled by sitting on their ass, absorbing television, and drinking beer.




It could pass, in fact I personally think it will more likely pass than not. Waiving money in peoples faces and then taking it away is political suicide. Anyone who votes against it knows they won't be re elected.

They don't have to have a way to fund it. They will just do what they did with the last stimulus and generate trillions and trillions of more dollars which generates more debt.

Just look at this thing before the stimulus we were right around 23 trillion now we are at 25 trillion. https://www.usdebtclock.org/

I'd say we should probably round it to 30 trillion. I mean if we are gonna rack up a lot of debt fuck it interest rates are 0-.25% for the government, we'll lose a lot of purchasing power, which is great for citizens who did not lose at life. Anyone owning a home homes value will go up by default, minimum wage will become 20? dollars at some point, this makes stock hitting new all time highs easier even if the company is in reality losing value.

If the government wants to give me and my wife 4k a month we'll just pay our mortgage down fast. I have been shoving every extra dollar into it for the last 4 years. I could have this thing almost paid off after this stimulus.

I have to pay 4.125% interest might as well have the government pay it off for me and have them pay .25% interest and the government can just say fuck it and never pay it back anyway. I wish I could do that but I have to be more responsible than the government or I lose everything I have.

Hyperinflation only effects the poor who have no valuable assets but makes middle class Americans lives easier so long as there are also jobs for them to work, or endless free government money inflating the cost of goods more.


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    #26663258 - 05/10/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Despite the fact that this situation is a wet dream for the obese couch potatoes everywhere,




I wonder how many people are out there who are quietly rooting for this virus for either A) political reasons, or B) simply because they don't want to work and will maybe get a chance at some free government money every once in a while


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    #26666959 - 05/12/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The further devaluation of the dollar by going deeper in debt will only crash the whole system. 90 percent will surely perish from being unable to adapt. It would then be utilitarian of us to open everything up and allow thousands to die compared to millions.

Furthermore I don't know why we all of a sudden have such a collective compassion for human life. People were dying of illness and starvation everyday before this virus. Where was the compassion then?


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    #26667194 - 05/12/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The dollar dropped 8 cents to the euro oh no it'll be worth nothing in no time flat if we don't just open up without meeting trumps administrations own giuidelines.


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    #26667233 - 05/12/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'll take your money if you don't want it.


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    #26667249 - 05/12/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Talking about devaluation of the dollar buddy stay on track

Also side not the dollar often goes a bit below the euro


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Re: Coronalierus [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26667448 - 05/12/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

All currencies are about to lose their purchasing power. Comparing them to each other isn't showing much as that is just the exchange rate internationally.


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    #27923067 - 08/28/22 07:06 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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People who bought 5 years worth of toilet paper agree that the virus is big scary and big dangerous. You are smart if you agree with them and probably completed highschool.




--Shortened to highlight the point

3 years later i find myself in the ER. i am you, i just stumbled my way into this position. You could have done so, too. Im telling you that if you HAD done so, you would not be engaging in conspiracy theories about this, because youd have firsthand experience  of it. Youd also be losing your shit conatantly arguing with people, some of whom are or were sort of your friends, who are implying youre in on some kind of conspiracy to make them poor


-----Shortened to highlight the point.




And now there is a major housing and worker shortage and despite wage increases everyone is becoming more and more poor even the rich are now spending less.

God damn conspiracy theory that never came true.


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    #27923072 - 08/28/22 07:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Talking about devaluation of the dollar buddy stay on track

Also side not the dollar often goes a bit below the euro





Not any more it don't



We crippled the whole world which long term will give the USA an industrial edge, just like before the rest of the world started to industrialize.

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