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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26653103 - 05/06/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've never lost magic from mushrooms/psychedelics in general...

10+ years and 200+ trips later, as I learn more about myself and this existence I find myself in and as I accumulate more life experience and have more things to ponder about and reflect on, my experiences with psychedelics continue to become more and more interesting & profound .

...it's like a constant dialog with myself/the universe, every trip is just another page/chapter.

Some are "better" & more satisfying than others, some aren't the smoothest going, a few have certainly left me a bit "rattled" & traumatized lol....but the experience continues to be thoroughly interesting for myself and also tends to provide lasting benefits to my mental health/state of mind & cognition.





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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: openmind]
    #26653124 - 05/06/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I've never lost magic from mushrooms/psychedelics in general...





Me neither.  And that's with over a thousand trips. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26653153 - 05/06/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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openmind said:
I've never lost magic from mushrooms/psychedelics in general...

10+ years and 200+ trips later, as I learn more about myself and this existence I find myself in and as I accumulate more life experience and have more things to ponder about and reflect on, my experiences with psychedelics continue to become more and more interesting & profound .

...it's like a constant dialog with myself/the universe, every trip is just another page/chapter.

Some are "better" & more satisfying than others, some aren't the smoothest going, a few have certainly left me a bit "rattled" & traumatized lol....but the experience continues to be thoroughly interesting for myself and also tends to provide lasting benefits to my mental health/state of mind & cognition.





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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26653220 - 05/06/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Haha love the unicorn farts!

On many trips, I believe in magic. You know the magic in books and films. I believe in it.

In many other trips,  I see the fairies. Have you seen them? The tiny sparkling golden balls of light that fall out of the sky. The air takes on the texture of candy floss.

So you can see fairies on mushroom trips. And children up to a certain age can also see fairies. I saw the fairies when I was about 3 or 4 years old. Particularly bad and vivid childhood nightmare. Absolutely terrifying; not unlike a bad trip actually. Screaming at the top of my lungs. Mum. And dad busy with my younger sister, Lao screaming. Disney wallpaper full of Donald Duck’s. They came alive. But the fairies saved me. They came down through the air, nd the terror abated.

I revisited this vivid memory at the age of about 20 when a hypnotist regressed me. It was he that explained what I saw.

Magic does exist.....

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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26653227 - 05/06/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Magical Illusion (dzogchen) is Magic (west’) ,    I. love it .  I believe i, I and know it.    :fairy:  :fairy:  There’s the fairies.!

Dj Ed,  your post got me thinking back to when I was a child and I would have all sorts of dreams and sometimes fevers with a magical, or spooky quality.  I loved it.

Won’t lie, it seems like the cosmos, my life and everything that is, is magical in quality.


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26653542 - 05/06/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Can you use shrooms to repress emotional burdens, out of curiosity?


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: tunhing]
    #26653655 - 05/06/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’m sure anything’s possible in the psychedelic induced Dreamtime.  The real question is why would you want to?  There are so many angels to work emotional burden from, if ones trip is going the right way, that simply repressing it would be a waste.  You could see through it, into the underlying mechanics behind what conditions allow it to even occur in the first place - and in doing so render it effete.  Learning something in the process by bravely confronting or wrestling with in a sense - it when ones able and ready, and then tasting the fruit of ones own work by then being free from it, as release and freedom.  Or you could lose (to yourself) and allow a bodily process (emotion) to throw one into chaos, but I’d prefer to subjugate it (that part of me) via skillful means, if I’m up to it and capable.  Making it work with me, rather than against me.

If one wishes to simply repress an emotional burden, then doing anything that absorbs ones attention - like a hobby of some sort- or the unwholesome way - drinking alcohol or using a sedative dug.  Not that I would recommend the unwholesome approach as a long term adaptive strategy.


Plus due to the nature of psychedelics, even if you suppress it during the trip, or that’s what you do normally, it may pop up and become the focus of part of the trip - some have bad trips because they weren’t prepared to confront such elements within themselves at the time they ingested the psychedelic and were expecting something else entirely free from morality and the conscience and such.

Also, if you did accomplish it, it would later come up in the future I would imagine.  So rendering it effete by working through it, as opposed to pushing it down, is imho the better option , especially bc when done right with psychs - a quickening can occur - and much progress can be made that wouldn’t work in normal space-time.

But if your not at the point where your prepared to perform such a brave undertaking, then I can admit that suppression - as a short term solution , until an appropriate time and condition occurs to do other wise, can be used - but via other means, not psychedelics.


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: tunhing]
    #26653832 - 05/06/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Any ideas how I can get the magic back? Or at the very least, not coming down in crisis mode? I've had severe depression, and traumatic stress related anxiety, this is different.




What if it doesn't come back? You going to subject yourself to repeat unpleasantness in order to try and get the magic back? Why not, I don't know, quit taking mushrooms? Its not for everyone, its probably not for you. I quit all psychedelics for a few years in my 20s because of bad trips. I came back and everything was fine. Taking a break or quitting is normal. Trying to force yourself to have good experiences is hard, maybe impossible.  Having a few great experiences in the beginning and then several negative ones happens quite a bit.
Maybe you got the message and should hang up the phone as per Terrance Mckenna (who had a bad trip and got scared away and needed some cool way to say it)


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26653951 - 05/06/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, well, my "magic" in mushroom trips is basically impossible things happening right in front of me, repeatedly.  Stemming I think from a multiverse of overlapping timelines intruding into consciousness - said multiverse usually being suppressed by some brain function evolved to do just that. YMMV of course. :awesomenod:


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26654042 - 05/06/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It’s all perception man, shrooms just do what shrooms do.


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26654119 - 05/06/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It’s when I realise that “the laws of the universe “ no longer apply, and your waking reality is a memory to cling on to! Depending on Doseage and stage in the come-up or peak, this can be quite a scary revelation, sometimes blissful and “magic”....


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Re: Bad Recurring Shroom Trips [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26655708 - 05/07/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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