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Re: Better to never have been [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26654889 - 05/07/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Life is meaningless. Sweeeeetttt!!!!

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Re: Better to never have been [Re: Asante]
    #26654987 - 05/07/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Today I put quinoa in my rice cooker, to great effect. As my house filled with the most delicious scents I counted my blessings, among them being so much more than a figment of Thanatos' imagination.





Pretty brutal?
Not really. :hug:




But saying that doesn’t really prove anything.

Honestly I could accept all this being the dream of a god much easier than accepting that it was all just me.


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26655152 - 05/07/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I fucking love you thanatos10. What do you have to say about that? :p


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26655285 - 05/07/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What about millions of socially-conscious and unified citizens, all just stepping up and doing their part?



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Re: Better to never have been [Re: 1234go]
    #26655508 - 05/07/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What about millions of socially-conscious and unified citizens, all just stepping up and doing their part?





What saddens me is that I have to believe they are real, I can’t verify it.


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: Thanatos10] * 2
    #26655528 - 05/07/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, that must be hard to deal with.  I'm sorry that you're in this situation.


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26655536 - 05/07/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Let us Pray for Thanatos to realize that people are actually real and not some psychological illusion of the Mind.

Amen. :raptorJesus:


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26655981 - 05/07/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Let us Pray for Thanatos to realize that people are actually real and not some psychological illusion of the Mind.

Amen. :raptorJesus:



It’s not a realization it’s a belief, just like solipsism. Neither can truly be verified.

As for anti natalism the argument seems to be that we don’t need to experience good things in life and that if one dies they won’t have to worry about chasing after good experiences and they prevent further suffering. I think that’s the short version. It’s basically a “net gain” since pleasure and joy is viewed as not having a height enough value to offset suffering and that it’s often just to stave off “hunger” (is boredom and seeking experiences).


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26656294 - 05/07/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In a sense with death you don’t “have to do anything” to make living bearable, and you avoid suffering


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26656305 - 05/07/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Also that assumes theres no afterlife, which ironically cannot be proven to exist just like solipsims itself.


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Re: Better to never have been [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26658433 - 05/08/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

https://www.edge.org/conversation/thomas_metzinger-benevolent-artificial-anti-natalism-baan

An interesting perspective that uses the term “existence bias”.


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