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OfflineCoyote Bruce
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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: mushpunx]
    #26652355 - 05/06/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Anybody know the role of coconut in some BRF teks? I HAVE some, is the point. Below is one such recipe.

Hippie3 Super Tek Recipe


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: Coyote Bruce]
    #26652358 - 05/06/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Nah don't bother. Just go with classic BRF cakes. Watch RR's demonstration of it in his Let's Grow Mushroom's video series , it's the best PF Tek resource IMO.


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: mushpunx]
    #26652365 - 05/06/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

bruce bruce you can spore to grain its just not optimal. I was just in your position last month - waddyagonnado? its hard to get stuff, money may be tight, and here you are.

since you got the rice find a brown rice TEK and follow that so you dont fuck up your rice. Id recommend WBS (with no fruits) with your last dollar, but you do you.

then use whatever jars you have as long as you can PC them and put a GE hole in the top. jelly jar, peanut butter jar, whatevs.

your measurements may be 'off' on quarts or pints or w/e, but maybe not, as most stuff is some standard size (2 pint peanutbutter jar etc).

your spawn ratio can be 1:1 up to about 4:1 so some leeway is there.

edit: ya got no substrate in your list man. bake a cake like ^^


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Edited by PinkStormtrooper (05/06/20 07:18 AM)


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26652463 - 05/06/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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PinkStormtrooper said:
edit: ya got no substrate in your list man. bake a cake like ^^




Probably grinding the rice down since it will save me buying a pressure cooker just yet but spawning to soil (mix happy frog, black gold seedling mix, castings, & hydrated lime, verm, all very low NPK but rich in organics)

So, should I sterilize the soil first? I have heard about baking and heard it not recommended. I've even heard people say that part doesn't matter, only the initial colonization in jars.

I'm open.


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: Coyote Bruce]
    #26652473 - 05/06/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

spawning to soil sounds like a really bad idea.
I followed a tek when i very very first started in mushroom cultivation, where it had me scrape spores straight into brf jar. I did it in open air, this was like in 2000. I did 20 jars, and only 1 had myc on it. The tek said to spawn to soil (i dont remember the brand or type) but that shit got cobweb mold, and I really mean cobweb mold! It was literally like 6 inches high form the sub yikes! That was a really fucked up experience...lesson learned? dont use out dated teks. If your going to do pf cakes, just use verm..no soil, just use coir. It doesn't harbor contams like soil might.


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: woofwoof]
    #26652475 - 05/06/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think the hardest part about being a n00b when it comes to mushroom cultivation, is knowing which teks to use, being able to identify information. I really suggest checking out RR's "Lets grow mushrooms" series. This will bring you success if you follow it exactly


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: woofwoof]
    #26652499 - 05/06/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

woofwoof said:
spawning to soil sounds like a really bad idea.
I followed a tek when i very very first started in mushroom cultivation, where it had me scrape spores straight into brf jar. I did it in open air, this was like in 2000. I did 20 jars, and only 1 had myc on it. The tek said to spawn to soil (i dont remember the brand or type) but that shit got cobweb mold, and I really mean cobweb mold! It was literally like 6 inches high form the sub yikes! That was a really fucked up experience...lesson learned? dont use out dated teks. If your going to do pf cakes, just use verm..no soil, just use coir. It doesn't harbor contams like soil might.



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woofwoof said:
I think the hardest part about being a n00b when it comes to mushroom cultivation, is knowing which teks to use, being able to identify information. I really suggest checking out RR's "Lets grow mushrooms" series. This will bring you success if you follow it exactly




bruce bruce it seems like youre not hearing the words on this page here big daddy.

if you want help, listen to what these people are saying.

no soil. RR TEK. cakes.

if you want to science, go science and post up your TEK.

we would love to read it.


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26652514 - 05/06/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There are teks that deal with what I am saying and I am listening alright but people are not all on the same page so I am listening more to some than to others.


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26652525 - 05/06/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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bruce bruce it seems like youre not hearing the words on this page here big daddy.

if you want help, listen to what these people are saying.

no soil. RR TEK. cakes.

if you want to science, go science and post up your TEK.

we would love to read it.




If you follow everything before your arrival you will see that I'm not just putting my fingers in my ears. Made one very visible concession - not using whole rice though it was specifically suggested. Everything else is not my invention but processes that can be found all over this message board.

Incidentally, I am getting a pressure cooker after all and I have watched the series you're recommending several times.


Edited by Coyote Bruce (05/06/20 08:56 AM)


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: PinkStormtrooper]
    #26652529 - 05/06/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

PinkStormtrooper said:
Quote:

woofwoof said:
spawning to soil sounds like a really bad idea.
I followed a tek when i very very first started in mushroom cultivation, where it had me scrape spores straight into brf jar. I did it in open air, this was like in 2000. I did 20 jars, and only 1 had myc on it. The tek said to spawn to soil (i dont remember the brand or type) but that shit got cobweb mold, and I really mean cobweb mold! It was literally like 6 inches high form the sub yikes! That was a really fucked up experience...lesson learned? dont use out dated teks. If your going to do pf cakes, just use verm..no soil, just use coir. It doesn't harbor contams like soil might.



Quote:

woofwoof said:
I think the hardest part about being a n00b when it comes to mushroom cultivation, is knowing which teks to use, being able to identify information. I really suggest checking out RR's "Lets grow mushrooms" series. This will bring you success if you follow it exactly




bruce bruce it seems like youre not hearing the words on this page here big daddy.

if you want help, listen to what these people are saying.

no soil. RR TEK. cakes.

if you want to science, go science and post up your TEK.

we would love to read it.




Those aren't my words that you've quoted.


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: mushpunx]
    #26652531 - 05/06/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Nah don't bother. Just go with classic BRF cakes. Watch RR's demonstration of it in his Let's Grow Mushroom's video series , it's the best PF Tek resource IMO.




Thanks. Looks like you have a lot of experience here. I appreciate your time.


Edited by Coyote Bruce (05/06/20 09:01 AM)


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: Coyote Bruce]
    #26652561 - 05/06/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Were not trying to shoot you down here dude. Just based on your posted question, you have all you need to do some growing.

I just recommend the pk tek from RR because I had success with it as first successful grow, along with a lot of others here.

If you found a tek, which it seems you have, then your good to go homie, just follow it and you should have success.

My whole point is simplicity. Sometimes just doing very stupid simple things will go much further than you can imagine.

I have been a member here for several years (had an another account and unable to access it) and reading and growing with methods here, I have not seen or heard of this tek you are referencing. I just see what the hot latest topics are and methods used and see success from others and myself.

Either way, learn from your mistakes, learn how to cut money where you can, because this hobby can get expensive, with stuff you could get the same results from with ditching stuff that may not be needed.

The reason I say to avoid the soil, is, if you run into issues and you post a question, it may be hard to answer because soil, in my opinion is not mentioned here much and you may have a hard time getting answers.

Try it out tho! But if your on a budget and really want a sure fire way to grow shrooms as well as receive lots of support from everyone on this forum, it's best to do something we are all familiar with. I am not saying there is no info out there on it. Its like every company who manufactures a product, are using all the same base line concepts and ideas (unless your stellar like Tesla) but even then, the same concepts and principles are used to end up with the same product result.

Sorry fro the rant, but I think you understand my point. And I think you will do fine! Just learn by doing, you got this homie


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: woofwoof]
    #26668134 - 05/13/20 07:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

woofwoof said:
Were not trying to shoot you down here dude.




Never really thought so...

<scratches head>


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Re: Noob Limited Supplies [Re: Coyote Bruce]
    #26668144 - 05/13/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'd say spawning to soil in a pinch in fine.



Presuming you're doing brf cakes I'd spawn to the soil but without the lime, pasteurized (in jars on the stove), or not -- I didn't pasturize for the above pic, just repotted soil.


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