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alephdog
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
#26649290 - 05/04/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: 25mg is FAR beyond 3g of shrooms!!!! More like 15g! It's not even close!!! See a majority of you dont vaporize it the correct way.
Perhaps it is your scale which needs calibrating.
25mg is a light/common dose according to Erowid 3g is meanwhile a common/strong dose
So they're comparable experiences, and I would 100% agree.
It's also totally different smoked DMT vs. shrooms... One is more positive, visual, brief.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Nature Boy]
#26649465 - 05/05/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A simple cleaning via some naphtha and a freeze precipitation would help immensely.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26649497 - 05/05/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The yellow stuff is totally fine to smoke. No need to clean up such a small ammount, in my opinion.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Pandemoon]
#26649538 - 05/05/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Agree.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26649835 - 05/05/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yellow is pure
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: alephdog]
#26649845 - 05/05/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not true. The yellow is fats and oils from the bark the clearer it is the purer.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26649850 - 05/05/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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True. Pure nn-dmt forms white, translucent crystals.
But the fats and oils do contain other tryptamines (nmt, dmt-oxide) that shape and alter the experience. Yellow stuff usually is richer in effects and therefore not even less potent.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Pandemoon]
#26649854 - 05/05/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Facts 
I'm not negating the potency of it jus saying.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26649868 - 05/05/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What you shown and the way you described it makes me feel like it's legit. If you have a test kit coming, then wait until you get the results. Low temp dab style, in a banger bowl. I would recommend 20-40mg for your first freebase session. Do you have a mg scale?
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: alephdog]
#26651358 - 05/05/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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alephdog said:
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Shenmue said: 25mg is FAR beyond 3g of shrooms!!!! More like 15g! It's not even close!!! See a majority of you dont vaporize it the correct way.
Perhaps it is your scale which needs calibrating.
25mg is a light/common dose according to Erowid 3g is meanwhile a common/strong dose
So they're comparable experiences, and I would 100% agree.
It's also totally different smoked DMT vs. shrooms... One is more positive, visual, brief.
Omg lmao!! Vaporizing 25mg of dmt is NOTHING like 3g of mushrooms!! I swear some of you completely talk out of your ass! You seriously don't know what the fuck you're talking about. FUCK!!!
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
#26651380 - 05/05/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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25mg of dmt is far beyond 3g of mushrooms just like 50mg is FAR beyond 6g of mushrooms. I swear it's always the inexperienced people that voice their opinions. Those sites say 25mg is a regular trip when is comes to dmt. IT DOESN'T SAY IT'S THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS 3G OF MUSHROOMS!!!!
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26651495 - 05/05/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The matter is easily resolved. Don't compare the two. I would simply say that as far as DMT is concerned, 25mg is a "respectable" dose if vaporized efficiently. Nine out of ten times it's the adequacy of the vaporization (i.e. skill from experience) that sets the user's impression of whether 25mg of DMT is potent or not.
25mg is plenty if you take it all in one hit without coughing and leaving nothing behind. I accomplish this all the time with my glass Vapor Genie...but there's lots of ways to skin a cat. GVG's are not cheap...but there's plenty of inexpensive (and often home-made) devices that can be made to perform just as well.
I would also add, that FAR LESS heat is required than you can possibly imagine. DMT vaporizes at a surprisingly low temperature.
Please be aware OP, that you are not (or should not be) "smoking" DMT. You are simply looking to turn the powder into vapor...exactly like water vapor off of a boiling pot of water. You are NOT (or should not) set fire to it like smoking pot. That's the most frequent mistake people make. 25mg properly vaporized WILL put you into the DMT headspace, guaranteed. And I will say it again, your DMT looks absolutely legit.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
#26651507 - 05/05/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Arguing about subjective experiences is just silly, we can all just give our perspective.
The experiences are completely different, but I would say 25 mg is a dipping the toes in dose, it could launch you but probably won’t with your inexperience in vaping.
For mushrooms anything less than an eighth is similar, personally I gotta get in the 5g range or higher to be really ‘out there’ on cubes.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: SynKyd]
#26651729 - 05/05/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The thing about DMT that makes me compare 25mg to 2-3g of shrooms—it wasn't actually that spiritually insane or mindfucking.
I felt myself melting into my environment, which was just fractals at that point. Words came out slowly, my lips were physically awkward. But behind the scenes, my thought process felt relatively clear and ordinary. DMT kind of gave me insane visuals, but just this dreamy oneness. Losing yourself visually is easy, but I needed a higher dose to also lose myself spiritually. I more than melted into my environment, I completed melted away. I didn't even know what to make of the fractals anymore, I didn't know if I was dying, or if it mattered. But I agree, they are subjectively different experiences. Definitely
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
#26651859 - 05/05/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hence why I said "almost certainly". It's ALWAYS good form to have a guide when you blast off but especially your first time. So many horror stories of cops, hospitals and such could have been avoided with a buddy to help you chill out.
HEY LOOK AT THAT. Everyone else thinks that the picture and description fit DMT to the T.
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Shenmue
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Nature Boy]
#26652267 - 05/06/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im not even talking out of ego. I grow mushrooms and extract dmt. I do know what I'm talking about. I probably have more experience with dmt than 90% of the people on this site.
25mg of dmt through the gvg blasts me out of my body. I'm not even a human anymore on that dose. On 3g of mushrooms I'm walking around laughing. It's not even close to the same thing! It's so fucking ridiculous to say it is!!! I hate people that talk out of their ass and don't know what they're talking about. That's what I hate about the internet. Saying 25mg of dmt is similar to 3g of mushrooms is literally the most retarded thing I've seen on here yet ...
That's like saying smoking crack is the same exact experience as taking cocaine orally. It's fucking retarded lmao! It hints you much faster and its a lot more intense for a shorter period of time.
He could get half the shroomery agreeing with him and I'll still think he's a newbie and doesn't know anything..
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: SynKyd]
#26652282 - 05/06/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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SynKyd said: Arguing about subjective experiences is just silly, we can all just give our perspective.
The experiences are completely different, but I would say 25 mg is a dipping the toes in dose, it could launch you but probably won’t with your inexperience in vaping.
For mushrooms anything less than an eighth is similar, personally I gotta get in the 5g range or higher to be really ‘out there’ on cubes.
If 25mg doesn't launch you then you're not vaporizing it properly. That dose should blast you out of the body to a world of color. 50mg will not only send you to God but you'll become God.
I would say half of the people that use dmt are burning half of their dose. I know because I use to do it. For an example willy myco uses the soda bottle/foil method and uses a 100mg dose. I did the same method 3 times with 100mg and my trip was similar to a 40 or 50mg dose. I was 100% burning half of it and so is willy myco.
The gvg is 120$. I don't think that's very expensive for what you're getting. Think about all the stupid shit you buy with 120 dollars. Maybe a couple video games or a pair of shoes. It's not that much money in my opinion. People pay thousands to experience dmt in south America. 120$ is nothing...
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
#26652328 - 05/06/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shenmue said:I do know what I'm talking about. I probably have more experience with dmt than 90% of the people on this site.
What is this, chess, a competition? Someone who has a humble attitude but has only tried a drug once, I would listen to them before some irritable know-it-all who has actually done it hundreds.
As I said, DMT took me to another world but I felt myself, whereas mushrooms I was in this world but someone else. The visuals on DMT were way more intense than mushrooms, but the mind fuck less. I vaped 10-30mg on several occasions out of a low-heat quartz banger. The mushrooms we grow are pretty potent too, 2 grams put a guy in the hospital.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: alephdog]
#26652435 - 05/06/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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2 grams put him in the hospital or his behavior put him in the hospital..?
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Amanita86]
#26653231 - 05/06/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow...I can't believe people are still trying to compare a particular dose of DMT to a set amount of mushrooms. What a study in futility!
As I've already elaborated above, for a myriad of reasons, a certain amount of DMT may or may not put any given individual in a particular DMT headspace. Some people are hard-heads - luckily for me, I am not one of them. Similarly, how can you even BEGIN to compare a certain mass of mushrooms when (your typical multispore) can be either highly potent, or not at all potent?
The whole notion of comparing the two, given all of the possible variables of individual persons and individual mushroom grows DEFIES this ability, and will lead to nothing productive except arguments which no side can possibly claim to win.
What do toy say we just come together and help the OP out with some good advice so that his first DMT experience is two thumbs up!
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