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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: Niffla] 3
#26650444 - 05/05/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said: Same. And it is fucking embarrassing. We're supposed to be "civilized". Advanced. Yet look how we just devolve into pure madness and panic. Running around like some chickens with their heads cut off.
If everyone would just stay calm, not panic and not hoard every fucking thing at the mere media mention of a potential problem, we would be fine. But of course the thought of such is pure fantasy.
LOL, and this is just a reaction to a - let's be honest - reasonably mild virus.
Can you fucking imagine what it would be like out there by now if this thing were lethal to 50% of people that caught it?
God save us all if that happened.
Just when I was kicking my misanthropic feelings too...
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: Niffla] 1
#26650445 - 05/05/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hunting is cool.
I'm more into the mushrooms. I've found most edible mushroom hunters to hunt aniamls too.
Just found mountains of dryads saddle. I'll probably just leave them alone. Waiting on other mushrooms to come out.
Right where I'm at. People are really scared of mushrooms. If i fill up a basket of harmless edible mushrooms and ride my bicycle with it. I bet the cops would probably stop me to ask questions.
The stigma is real.
Edited by watermelon mon (05/05/20 11:33 AM)
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Niffla



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Niffla said: Same. And it is fucking embarrassing. We're supposed to be "civilized". Advanced. Yet look how we just devolve into pure madness and panic. Running around like some chickens with their heads cut off.
If everyone would just stay calm, not panic and not hoard every fucking thing at the mere media mention of a potential problem, we would be fine. But of course the thought of such is pure fantasy.
LOL, and this is just a reaction to a - let's be honest - reasonably mild virus.
Can you fucking imagine what it would be like out there by now if this thing were lethal to 50% of people that caught it?
God save us all if that happened.
Just when I was kicking my misanthropic feelings too...
It wouldn't take a whole lot worse of a virus for it to become a true and total breakdown of society. An actual apocalypse that would probably closely mirror what we see in film.
Shit sometimes I think we're teetering on it right now. I mean I know we're quite a ways from a true apocalyptic level but it really wouldn't take much to get it there. Hand sanitizer and stupid fucking toilet paper shortages are one thing but when you start venturing into food supply territory it's going to start getting sketchy.
People were assaulting each other over something to wipe their asses with.
Imagine what can happen when it comes to food.
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psi
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: O_Dweeds]
#26650466 - 05/05/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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psi said: With this stuff you have to ask yourself "Who benefits?" Whose aims are achieved by all this? Not the 5g cartel like the mainstream conspiracists are pushing but PETA.
PETA? I'm not doubting, but could you hold my hand through this one?
The way I see it American's will always love/need their meat. So in the short-term we have a massive buying of excess cold meat storage & a short-term meat shortage.
When things come back online in the long-term we have a large number of people able to buy and store much larger amounts of meat then before and a returning demand for said meat.
I'm just not seeing this as a win for PETA. Which is good with those "mature" adults putting their fellow people below animals. Clearly maturity holds no age, & PETA lacks the ability see long-term by perpetuating their garbage of stopping all forms of capitalism because they have obtained their personal wealth and do not want people to do the same thing their ancestors did to obtain/give them the wealth.
Yeah just spitballing here. More like the lunatic fringe of the lunatic fringe if it was any kind of true believer animal rights or environmental extremist group. In the movie 12 Monkeys it turned out to be something like that.
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: Niffla] 1
#26650468 - 05/05/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said: A million meat shortage articles come out and now instead of toilet paper and fucking sanitizer the horde of uber panicked doomsdayers have turned their attention to wiping clean the nation's meat supply.
Supposedly here in Dallas places like Home Depot and Lowes are selling out of deep freezers as soon as they open every morning.
God I hate the media.
To be fair, they probably only stock a handful at a time, so especially in places that have millions of people it will get awfully statistical that someone wants a freezer. Add in people buying extra groceries, it's not that unreasonable. The part to hate about the media is that they're reporting that at all. If they hadn't reported on the tp thing so intensely it wouldn't have gone down so crazy. They just want to say "...and everybody.. is freaking out. And now Tom with the weather." When in fact most people aren't freaking out, but if you tell people they are then even rational people are expected to react because a possible threat is a possibly real threat. In interrogation it's a tactic to get someone to sit in a corner so they feel trapped, the human mind is strong in a lot of ways but the blindspots can make us soft and malleable. I don't have to be freaking out to react, plenty of people are capable of acting calmly and desicively in intense/dangerous situations. And that's exactly what the media is misrepresenting. The big hats are probably more scared of being overthrown than they've ever been, assuring us of our confidence wouldn't be smart considering armed "protesters" have already started popping up.
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O_Dweeds
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: psi] 3
#26650493 - 05/05/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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psi said: With this stuff you have to ask yourself "Who benefits?" Whose aims are achieved by all this? Not the 5g cartel like the mainstream conspiracists are pushing but PETA.
PETA? I'm not doubting, but could you hold my hand through this one?
The way I see it American's will always love/need their meat. So in the short-term we have a massive buying of excess cold meat storage & a short-term meat shortage.
When things come back online in the long-term we have a large number of people able to buy and store much larger amounts of meat then before and a returning demand for said meat.
I'm just not seeing this as a win for PETA. Which is good with those "mature" adults putting their fellow people below animals. Clearly maturity holds no age, & PETA lacks the ability see long-term by perpetuating their garbage of stopping all forms of capitalism because they have obtained their personal wealth and do not want people to do the same thing their ancestors did to obtain/give them the wealth.
Yeah just spitballing here. More like the lunatic fringe of the lunatic fringe if it was any kind of true believer animal rights or environmental extremist group. In the movie 12 Monkeys it turned out to be something like that.
The fringe always leads the herd, good and bad, intentional and unintentional.
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O_Dweeds
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It's the people misinterpreting the Media Outlets for anything more than entertainment that's the problem. Everything is happening at once all the time.
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The Blind Ass
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: O_Dweeds]
#26650517 - 05/05/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yessiree
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: O_Dweeds] 1
#26650520 - 05/05/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know what you're saying is true but it's relevant that they claim to be a source of facts and information
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: Niffla] 1
#26650546 - 05/05/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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Niffla said: Same. And it is fucking embarrassing. We're supposed to be "civilized". Advanced. Yet look how we just devolve into pure madness and panic. Running around like some chickens with their heads cut off.
If everyone would just stay calm, not panic and not hoard every fucking thing at the mere media mention of a potential problem, we would be fine. But of course the thought of such is pure fantasy.
LOL, and this is just a reaction to a - let's be honest - reasonably mild virus.
Can you fucking imagine what it would be like out there by now if this thing were lethal to 50% of people that caught it?
God save us all if that happened.
Just when I was kicking my misanthropic feelings too...
It wouldn't take a whole lot worse of a virus for it to become a true and total breakdown of society. An actual apocalypse that would probably closely mirror what we see in film.
Shit sometimes I think we're teetering on it right now. I mean I know we're quite a ways from a true apocalyptic level but it really wouldn't take much to get it there. Hand sanitizer and stupid fucking toilet paper shortages are one thing but when you start venturing into food supply territory it's going to start getting sketchy.
People were assaulting each other over something to wipe their asses with.
Imagine what can happen when it comes to food.
The same thing is going to happen again, could be a decade from now, could be in a couple months before we even clear up this mess.
Regardless of where the virus was created, bioweapon and virology labs will always exist and always have lapses, wet markets will always exist, existing viruses will always mutate.
We got lucky that this one has a relatively low death rate, although how quickly it spreads and how deadly it is to those who are vulnerable make it particularly dangerous.
We should be using this time to restructure our society, our food and medical supply production/distribution, our economy etc to be resilient against these events. Instead we have people in the streets with guns screaming that they want to return to the status quo as soon as possible, ignore the people who this will kill and ignore the fact it is most certainly going to happen again and possibly be much, much worse.
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O_Dweeds
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: feevers]
#26650566 - 05/05/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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feevers said:
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Niffla said:
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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Niffla said: Same. And it is fucking embarrassing. We're supposed to be "civilized". Advanced. Yet look how we just devolve into pure madness and panic. Running around like some chickens with their heads cut off.
If everyone would just stay calm, not panic and not hoard every fucking thing at the mere media mention of a potential problem, we would be fine. But of course the thought of such is pure fantasy.
LOL, and this is just a reaction to a - let's be honest - reasonably mild virus.
Can you fucking imagine what it would be like out there by now if this thing were lethal to 50% of people that caught it?
God save us all if that happened.
Just when I was kicking my misanthropic feelings too...
It wouldn't take a whole lot worse of a virus for it to become a true and total breakdown of society. An actual apocalypse that would probably closely mirror what we see in film.
Shit sometimes I think we're teetering on it right now. I mean I know we're quite a ways from a true apocalyptic level but it really wouldn't take much to get it there. Hand sanitizer and stupid fucking toilet paper shortages are one thing but when you start venturing into food supply territory it's going to start getting sketchy.
People were assaulting each other over something to wipe their asses with.
Imagine what can happen when it comes to food.
The same thing is going to happen again, could be a decade from now, could be in a couple months before we even clear up this mess.
Regardless of where the virus was created, bioweapon and virology labs will always exist and always have lapses, wet markets will always exist, existing viruses will always mutate.
We got lucky that this one has a relatively low death rate, although how quickly it spreads and how deadly it is to those who are vulnerable make it particularly dangerous.
We should be using this time to restructure our society, our food and medical supply production/distribution, our economy etc to be resilient against these events. Instead we have people in the streets with guns screaming that they want to return to the status quo as soon as possible, ignore the people who this will kill and ignore the fact it is most certainly going to happen again and possibly be much, much worse.
I only see three long-term options. Massive culling of the global population, using the genetic engineering that has kept the huge population fed used for new genetic engineering vaccinations, or a massive shift into decentralized finance (the thousands of digital currency) enabling people to grow their own food and live on their own terms. I have eggs in ever basket but much more in the 3rd.
-------------------- Oxygen. Water. Neil Young Our word "planet" comes from the Greek word planetes, meaning "wanderer." "There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace." Gregg Allman
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: Niffla] 3
#26650586 - 05/05/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not to worry I'll be uploading my world famous Soylent Pot Pie recipe to the culinary forum shortly.
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: O_Dweeds] 1
#26650611 - 05/05/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I only see three long-term options. Massive culling of the global population, using the genetic engineering that has kept the huge population fed used for new genetic engineering vaccinations, or a massive shift into decentralized finance (the thousands of digital currency) enabling people to grow their own food and live on their own terms. I have eggs in ever basket but much more in the 3rd.
I'm more in favor of just having states and groups of states take more control over their own supply chains, like is happening now with state pacts and coalitions for PPE and reopening plans. Relying on one federal bureaucracy to oversee 300+ million people is asinine. It'd be fairly simple for the majority of the US to automate regional emergency food and medical supply production (and virology/research) centers. We could also enact an enormous infrastructure undertaking on sustainable food and energy projects, getting millions of those unemployed people back to work ASAP and creating a society that's not reliant on fossil fuels and food flown or trucked in from thousands of miles away.
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: feevers]
#26650638 - 05/05/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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That would be nice somewhat nice
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O_Dweeds
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: feevers]
#26650698 - 05/05/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I only see three long-term options. Massive culling of the global population, using the genetic engineering that has kept the huge population fed used for new genetic engineering vaccinations, or a massive shift into decentralized finance (the thousands of digital currency) enabling people to grow their own food and live on their own terms. I have eggs in ever basket but much more in the 3rd.
I'm more in favor of just having states and groups of states take more control over their own supply chains, like is happening now with state pacts and coalitions for PPE and reopening plans. Relying on one federal bureaucracy to oversee 300+ million people is asinine. It'd be fairly simple for the majority of the US to automate regional emergency food and medical supply production (and virology/research) centers. We could also enact an enormous infrastructure undertaking on sustainable food and energy projects, getting millions of those unemployed people back to work ASAP and creating a society that's not reliant on fossil fuels and food flown or trucked in from thousands of miles away.
I agree with the actions you stated, however as long as everything begins with the FED system & we don't transition to a decentralized financial system then the same thing will keep happening much more often and with a much more intense negative impact. We need the FED system (centralized) as the foundation for everything with decentralized systems for everything past necessity. Manipulation is needed to keep things from getting too out of hand; however with total manipulation comes total slaughter.
-------------------- Oxygen. Water. Neil Young Our word "planet" comes from the Greek word planetes, meaning "wanderer." "There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace." Gregg Allman
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Niffla



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The Blind Ass said: That would be nice somewhat nice
You are somewhat nice!!
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: O_Dweeds]
#26650716 - 05/05/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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300 people were infected in a smithfield plant
an outbreak in maryland surrounding the poultry plant immediately shutdown the whole areas supply
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: budmanman]
#26650722 - 05/05/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: HappySloth] 1
#26650792 - 05/05/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good news everyone, just in case you think maybe we should treat the virus like a common flu so that our food supply chains don't fail the virus is now declared more contagious and scary
https://www.wowktv.com/news/mutant-more-contagious-coronavirus-strain-has-emerged-scientists-say/
But even more good news, people harvesting your fruits and vegetables are also coming down with the virus, mmm yum yum stay at home and eat your infected fruits and vegetables.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/farmworkers-test-positive-covid-19-washington-orchard/ODHOITDJTRDLTPXWBSNMBDY7VU/
We should give all these food harvesters and meat plant workers an incentive not to work also, like an extra 600 a week unemployment!
Let the socialism commence.
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cannabinated



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Re: Here comes the meat shortage. [Re: budmanman]
#26650883 - 05/05/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Theyre all illegal
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