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OfflineNoobShroob
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I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts.
    #26647125 - 05/03/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Alright, so i actually heard of someone i used to know got a hold of it. I hit them up and low and behold they do.

I got some, i havent looked too into it because this has been a dream of mine i was expecting to come so soon.

The color. As you can/will see in the pics it is light brown, amost reminds me of bread crust crumb.

The smell. Its very strong, i dont know exactly what it smells like but very chemically almost a burnt rubber smell maybe? Very hard to pinpoint. A heavy smell, covering the whole bag iutside makes my finger smell from touching it.
Also my cat keeps trying to find it hes obsessed. Lol

Im ordering a test kid, i plan on testing it but in the mean time im trying to get more info on it.

Its a .2 how much should i smoke in my first hit with someone. How should i? “Rose pipe”?




For some reason i cant upload the other pics. Some is sticky to the bag and the rest crumbly


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: NoobShroob]
    #26647151 - 05/03/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I helped a buddy chop up roots and extract the stuff back in the early 0s. That's almost certainly the right stuff. Rose pipe, all of it and have someone there to watch you. Report back.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #26647163 - 05/03/20 11:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I helped a buddy chop up roots and extract the stuff back in the early 0s. That's almost certainly the right stuff. Rose pipe, all of it and have someone there to watch you. Report back.




You don't know what the fuck that is so don't say that.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26647168 - 05/03/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Just make sure you vaporize it the correct way. If you're not hurting for cash get yourself a vapor genie and a small torch lighter.  Seeing how you only have .2 you might as well go big and use 50mg. It doesn't last very long so don't be afraid. Calm music can help with your first trip. This is the music I played with my first dmt trip and I had a trip full of love and peace. Listen to it through headphones and call me in the morning  :smile: ..



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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26647170 - 05/03/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need anyone to watch you by the way. Just lay in bed and play that music. I promise you'll be ok. It only lasts like 5 minutes


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26647178 - 05/03/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You say 50mg. Wouldnt that be .5?

I heard 10-15 milligrams is good the first trip. But i assumed i had 20. Help me with the conversions?

Well im glad everything things it looks legit. Happy to try it with the glass pipe more likely than not tomorrow. Ill make a new post and update this one.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: NoobShroob]
    #26647182 - 05/03/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Do you guys think it would be able to be hit in a wax vaporizer?

A yocan evolve

Details here
(https://www.vapes.com/products/yocan-evolve-wax-vaporizer-pen-quartz-dual-coil)


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: NoobShroob]
    #26647200 - 05/03/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

.2 is 200mg. Sounds like you don't even know how much you have. At least make a good device to smoke it.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26647261 - 05/04/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

looks like dmt to me - as for the smell, the smell sounds about right. sorta like mothballs, or like marigolds, right? it's definitely noticable, lol. kinda reminds me of that smell you get when you buy new sneakers.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: NoobShroob]
    #26647290 - 05/04/20 12:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Good luck, pay attention, and be safe, OP! :sunny: :bongload:


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26647311 - 05/04/20 01:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I found the smell to be like a new box of sneakers. I’ve heard others say that before I first smelled it. Anyone else think so?

Vaporgenie is not straight forward. There is a steep learning curve. It will help you not burn your product.. but I’d read up on troubleshooting posts before using. (If you go vaporgenie route). Be safe.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #26647431 - 05/04/20 04:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think it smells like some greasy, terpy silicon board.

Definitely tastes harsh too.

I've had success using a nail and dome, but it is a bit wasteful and messy.  Mixing it with a toke of weed and smoking the old fashioned way seems to work well too.

Doing it out of a volcano vape or anything is tricky.  You want a sudden burst, not several spread out bags.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: FrancoAmerican] * 1
    #26647449 - 05/04/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you have a pipe or bong just sandwich it between some tobacco or weed, and smoke it just the way you ever smoked anything.

I Use my bong and put some tobacco onto the sieve in the cone, then the dmt ontop, and again some tobacco ontop of that. Not too much because I want to smoke it all in one hit.
The dmt will melt and turn into a liquid once it's hot. The tobacco underneath prevents the dmt from dripping through your sieve, the tobacco ontop will prevent burning it too hot.

I never had any problems this way.
I don't know why so many people overthink the process of smoking dmt. :shrug:

Just make sure to hold the smoke in for long. Like 10 to 15 seconds, or longer if you can.

20mg should be enough for a good mild hit. 50mg is quite a dose, maybe too much for a first timer.

You have 200mg, so eyball it into halves, then these halves again into halves and you have 4x 50mg. Once more into halves and you have 8x ~25mg.
So it's like 8 medium doses from 200mg.

Have fun. It's an experience out of tis world. 25mg should be similar to 3g of shrooms visually, but mentally you keep pretty clear.
It gets weird and delusional in higher doses, though.

Hint: When you extract dmt on your own (all ingredients are legal!) it's under 10 bucks for a full gram. All you need is bark, water, draincleaner and naphtha.

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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26647456 - 05/04/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm using pickling lime next go around...


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26648121 - 05/04/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Here's the simple truth. Buying dmt off the street is beyond stupid unless you're getting it off of a close friend that extracted it. Extracting dmt is so easy that a 5 year old can do it. Just buy some bark and extract it. There's a million teks and videos on the internet that teach you how to do it. You need more than 200mg. Without a good smoking method you're going to burn half of it....


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26648125 - 05/04/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
If you have a pipe or bong just sandwich it between some tobacco or weed, and smoke it just the way you ever smoked anything.

I Use my bong and put some tobacco onto the sieve in the cone, then the dmt ontop, and again some tobacco ontop of that. Not too much because I want to smoke it all in one hit.
The dmt will melt and turn into a liquid once it's hot. The tobacco underneath prevents the dmt from dripping through your sieve, the tobacco ontop will prevent burning it too hot.

I never had any problems this way.
I don't know why so many people overthink the process of smoking dmt. :shrug:

Just make sure to hold the smoke in for long. Like 10 to 15 seconds, or longer if you can.

20mg should be enough for a good mild hit. 50mg is quite a dose, maybe too much for a first timer.

You have 200mg, so eyball it into halves, then these halves again into halves and you have 4x 50mg. Once more into halves and you have 8x ~25mg.
So it's like 8 medium doses from 200mg.

Have fun. It's an experience out of tis world. 25mg should be similar to 3g of shrooms visually, but mentally you keep pretty clear.
It gets weird and delusional in higher doses, though.

Hint: When you extract dmt on your own (all ingredients are legal!) it's under 10 bucks for a full gram. All you need is bark, water, draincleaner and naphtha.

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25mg is FAR beyond 3g of shrooms!!!! More like 15g! It's not even close!!! See a majority of you dont vaporize it the correct way.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: NoobShroob]
    #26648135 - 05/04/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Depends what you want out of it.

When I've given it away in the past, I usually tell people to just buy some smokeable herb (mullien works well) and sandwich 100mg, corner the bowl and keep hitting it and holding it in until you can't anymore. The majority of people screw it up their first time, so that's pretty much the fool proof method, albeit wasteful.

In my experience, a breakthrough is a breakthrough. Doesn't matter if I kill 30mg in my vapor genie or pack a bong full of powder and keep hitting. There's only so far out I can get before my body stops being able to hit it again


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: feevers]
    #26648172 - 05/04/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I've personally made enhanced leaf, changa and smoked pure dmt. I've smoked it out of bongs, other pipes, vaporized it out of my Sherlock glass vapor genie. The GVG is superior even with changa!! There's a reason its the most loved pipe on the dmt nexus. I remember when I first got mine in the mail I loaded 10mg thinking I would barely feel it. It blasted me out of my body and I literally became the universe!! I swear it's almost like the gvg was designed for dmt. It's worth every penny!!! If you extract dmt it's a must have.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26648176 - 05/04/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Just extract it!!



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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: NoobShroob]
    #26649087 - 05/04/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Looks legit.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26649290 - 05/04/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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25mg is FAR beyond 3g of shrooms!!!! More like 15g! It's not even close!!! See a majority of you dont vaporize it the correct way.



Perhaps it is your scale which needs calibrating.

25mg is a light/common dose according to Erowid
3g is meanwhile a common/strong dose

So they're comparable experiences, and I would 100% agree.

It's also totally different smoked DMT vs. shrooms...  One is more positive, visual, brief.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26649465 - 05/05/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

A simple cleaning via some naphtha and a freeze precipitation would help immensely.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26649497 - 05/05/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The yellow stuff is totally fine to smoke. No need to clean up such a small ammount, in my opinion.

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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26649538 - 05/05/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Agree.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26649835 - 05/05/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yellow is pure


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: alephdog]
    #26649845 - 05/05/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Not true. The yellow is fats and oils from the bark the clearer it is the purer.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26649850 - 05/05/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

True. Pure nn-dmt forms white, translucent crystals.

But the fats and oils do contain other tryptamines (nmt, dmt-oxide) that shape and alter the experience. Yellow stuff usually is richer in effects and therefore not even less potent.

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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26649854 - 05/05/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Facts :wink:

I'm not negating the potency of it jus saying.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26649868 - 05/05/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What you shown and the way you described it makes me feel like it's legit. If you have a test kit coming, then wait until you get the results.
Low temp dab style, in a banger bowl. I would recommend 20-40mg for your first freebase session.
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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: alephdog]
    #26651358 - 05/05/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Shenmue said:
25mg is FAR beyond 3g of shrooms!!!! More like 15g! It's not even close!!! See a majority of you dont vaporize it the correct way.



Perhaps it is your scale which needs calibrating.

25mg is a light/common dose according to Erowid
3g is meanwhile a common/strong dose

So they're comparable experiences, and I would 100% agree.

It's also totally different smoked DMT vs. shrooms...  One is more positive, visual, brief.




Omg lmao!! Vaporizing 25mg of dmt is NOTHING like 3g of mushrooms!! I swear some of you completely talk out of your ass! You seriously don't know what the fuck you're talking about. FUCK!!!


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26651380 - 05/05/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

25mg of dmt is far beyond 3g of mushrooms just like 50mg is FAR beyond 6g of mushrooms. I swear it's always the inexperienced people that voice their opinions. Those sites say 25mg is a regular trip when is comes to dmt. IT DOESN'T SAY IT'S THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS 3G OF MUSHROOMS!!!!

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    #26651495 - 05/05/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The matter is easily resolved.  Don't compare the two.  I would simply say that as far as DMT is concerned, 25mg is a "respectable" dose if vaporized efficiently.  Nine out of ten times it's the adequacy of the vaporization (i.e. skill from experience) that sets the user's impression of whether 25mg of DMT is potent or not.

25mg is plenty if you take it all in one hit without coughing and leaving nothing behind.  I accomplish this all the time with my glass Vapor Genie...but there's lots of ways to skin a cat. GVG's are not cheap...but there's plenty of inexpensive (and often home-made) devices that can be made to perform just as well.

I would also add, that FAR LESS heat is required than you can possibly imagine.  DMT vaporizes at a surprisingly low temperature.

Please be aware OP, that you are not (or should not be) "smoking" DMT.  You are simply looking to turn the powder into vapor...exactly like water vapor off of a boiling pot of water.  You are NOT (or should not) set fire to it like smoking pot.  That's the most frequent mistake people make.  25mg properly vaporized WILL put you into the DMT headspace, guaranteed.  And I will say it again, your DMT looks absolutely legit.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26651507 - 05/05/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Arguing about subjective experiences is just silly, we can all just give our perspective.

The experiences are completely different, but I would say 25 mg is a dipping the toes in dose, it could launch you but probably won’t with your inexperience in vaping.

For mushrooms anything less than an eighth is similar, personally I gotta get in the 5g range or higher to be really ‘out there’ on cubes.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: SynKyd]
    #26651729 - 05/05/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The thing about DMT that makes me compare 25mg to 2-3g of shrooms—it wasn't actually that spiritually insane or mindfucking.

I felt myself melting into my environment, which was just fractals at that point.  Words came out slowly, my lips were physically awkward.  But behind the scenes, my thought process felt relatively clear and ordinary.  DMT kind of gave me insane visuals, but just this dreamy oneness.  Losing yourself visually is easy, but I needed a higher dose to also lose myself spiritually.  I more than melted into my environment, I completed melted away.  I didn't even know what to make of the fractals anymore, I didn't know if I was dying, or if it mattered.  But I agree, they are subjectively different experiences.  Definitely


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26651859 - 05/05/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hence why I said "almost certainly". It's ALWAYS good form to have a guide when you blast off but especially your first time. So many horror stories of cops, hospitals and such could have been avoided with a buddy to help you chill out.

HEY LOOK AT THAT. Everyone else thinks that the picture and description fit DMT to the T.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26652267 - 05/06/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Im not even talking out of ego. I grow mushrooms and extract dmt. I do know what I'm talking about. I probably have more experience with dmt than 90% of the people on this site.

25mg of dmt through the gvg blasts me out of my body. I'm not even a human anymore on that dose. On 3g of mushrooms I'm walking around laughing. It's not even close to the same thing! It's so fucking ridiculous to say it is!!! I hate people that talk out of their ass and don't know what they're talking about. That's what I hate about the internet. Saying 25mg of dmt is similar to 3g of mushrooms is literally the most retarded thing I've seen on here yet :lol: ...

That's like saying smoking crack is the same exact experience as taking cocaine orally. It's fucking retarded lmao! It hints you much faster and its a lot more intense for a shorter period of time.

He could get half the shroomery agreeing with him and I'll still think he's a newbie and doesn't know anything..


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: SynKyd]
    #26652282 - 05/06/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Arguing about subjective experiences is just silly, we can all just give our perspective.

The experiences are completely different, but I would say 25 mg is a dipping the toes in dose, it could launch you but probably won’t with your inexperience in vaping.


For mushrooms anything less than an eighth is similar, personally I gotta get in the 5g range or higher to be really ‘out there’ on cubes.




If 25mg doesn't launch you then you're not vaporizing it properly. That dose should blast you out of the body to a world of color. 50mg will not only send you to God but you'll become God.

I would say half of the people that use dmt are burning half of their dose. I know because I use to do it. For an example willy myco uses the soda bottle/foil method and uses a 100mg dose. I did the same method 3 times with 100mg and my trip was similar to a 40 or 50mg dose. I was 100% burning half of it and so is willy myco.

The gvg is 120$. I don't think that's very expensive for what you're getting. Think about all the stupid shit you buy with 120 dollars. Maybe a couple video games or a pair of shoes. It's not that much money in my opinion. People pay thousands to experience dmt in south America.  120$ is nothing...


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Shenmue]
    #26652328 - 05/06/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Shenmue said:I do know what I'm talking about. I probably have more experience with dmt than 90% of the people on this site.




What is this, chess, a competition?  Someone who has a humble attitude but has only tried a drug once, I would listen to them before some irritable know-it-all who has actually done it hundreds.


As I said, DMT took me to another world but I felt myself, whereas mushrooms I was in this world but someone else.  The visuals on DMT were way more intense than mushrooms, but the mind fuck less.  I vaped 10-30mg on several occasions out of a low-heat quartz banger.  The mushrooms we grow are pretty potent too, 2 grams put a guy in the hospital.


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: alephdog]
    #26652435 - 05/06/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

2 grams put him in the hospital or his behavior put him in the hospital..?:justinwilson:


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26653231 - 05/06/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wow...I can't believe people are still trying to compare a particular dose of DMT to a set amount of mushrooms.  What a study in futility!

As I've already elaborated above, for a myriad of reasons, a certain amount of DMT may or may not put any given individual in a particular DMT headspace.  Some people are hard-heads - luckily for me, I am not one of them.  Similarly, how can you even BEGIN to compare a certain mass of mushrooms when (your typical multispore) can be either highly potent, or not at all potent?

The whole notion of comparing the two, given all of the possible variables of individual persons and individual mushroom grows DEFIES this ability, and will lead to nothing productive except arguments which no side can possibly claim to win.

What do toy say we just come together and help the OP out with some good advice so that his first DMT experience is two thumbs up!


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Re: I just got dmt. Questions, first thoughts. [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26654734 - 05/07/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, they are not really comparable. That's why I sad they are similar visually wise, and not identical.
Don't know why Shenmure is going off the wall about this.

And yes, I still think 25mg of dmt is like 3g of shrooms, visual-intensity wise.
3g of good cubes totally floor me, everything is in motion, morphing and switing colors. I'm almost unable to see straight anymore through all those patterns that are filling the air around me. :shrug:

Besides, a dried gram of cubes contains roughly 7 to 10 mg of 4-(p/h)o-dmt. 3g is 20 to 30 mg. Nn-dmt and 4-ho-dmt are pretty much equally potent. At least orally.

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