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Let's talk about mescaline. * 2
    #26646679 - 05/03/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How was it?

Was it better than you expected?

Is it anything like acid and mushrooms?

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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: KetamineAndHoes]
    #26646683 - 05/03/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Good, no, yes


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: KetamineAndHoes]
    #26646692 - 05/03/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The come up for me, apart from the purging aspect, was very gentle by comparison to other psychedelics I have used.  That my be attributed to my anecdotal, subjective experience and nothing else.  I felt more of a calming, connected-to-nature sort of vibe from it.


Edit: It was different than what I expected, although I took a moderate dose (I don't remember the exact amount of San Pedro I ingested, as a friend prepared the dose for me).  It had some similarities to mushrooms and LSD, although it felt much gentler to me than either of those.  To reiterate, I took a moderate amount and my experience is subjective.  I was also out in the woods and away from all people except for my friend who had accompanied me.   


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Asclepius]
    #26646699 - 05/03/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Seems like a lot of trouble to grow and prepare from scratch, where as fungi is so simple to grow and make into an easy tea.

I’m sure it can be just as wonderfully psychedelic as the other classic psychs, and I would experiment with it if the opportunity presented itself to me while in the right place and time or condition - but as of now Mescaline is on the back burner for me.

Anyone care to share what a heroic dose of mescaline is like?


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26646717 - 05/03/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My friend didn't grow it but got a hold of some already matured San Pedro.  But you're right, it did take quite a bit of preparation!  He had to painstakingly skin the cacti at just the right depth (because you only want to ingest the outer, dark green portion of the plant), and then he had to let skin dry for quite some time.  Also, it is literally the most bitter thing I have ever tasted in my life!  I wanted to vomit from its taste before the molecule even started to take effect.  Apart from that, as well as the purging aspect, the experience for me was quite sublime! 


I do agree with you, however; mushrooms are much simpler!


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Asclepius] * 2
    #26646732 - 05/03/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My first real psychedelic was cactus and its still my favorite. A lot more visual and sensory and less mind fucky. I actually feel quite clear headed on it


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Asclepius] * 2
    #26646744 - 05/03/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I’m putting together a blueprint for an ethnobotanical garden filled with psychoactive plants and fungi, mescaline and San Pedro will be among the specimens in it for sure.  Along with cannabis sat+indica, psilocybin fungi, kava kava, Kratom, Poppies, tobacco, coffee, ephedra plant, morning glory, Hawaiian baby wood rose, dhatura, and a grape vineyard for wine etc etc etc.  Bees for honey.  And one day maybe an iboga tree to sit in the middle of an island in a pond in the middle of the garden, eyyy :aweohyou:

All on a farm on a high plain in Mex.

Garden of Eden, ala  a Zen Buddhist garden style with shamanic plants.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: The Blind Ass] * 3
    #26646753 - 05/03/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This opinion is going to come across strong, but I assure you that mescaline aswell as other mystery alkaloids in the plant, there is no other words for its simple complexity. The curve to learning and propagating cacti is no different than the knowledge it takes to understand mycology. I really could go on about this but its not just me, the price of these things are through the roof and well sought after by propagators and psychonauts alike. I have done on averge of 2 feet from various trichocerus species. Mainly Bridgidessi for it is "considered"  best average potency variety. But others are great too. 2ft is considered 3-4 on the trip scale. Mescaline is easy on the mind, im not saying it's not possible to have a bad trip, but it is unlikey when all other trip aspects have been checked. The biggest thing to me with cacti... Is the cleansing process that takes place in your mind body and spirit. To me the mushroom spirit is of a mother or woman and mescaline is for sure and uncle or a grandfather. But no seriosuly it cleans you out... it also has a real application in addiction. And the people that grow them, besides the greedy bastards, are some of the best and most knowledgable plant growers and foragers. For the know the true value.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Grungeman17] * 2
    #26646758 - 05/03/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I appreciate that fact, one day I will cultivate cacti-succulents.  Probably after I move to the farm in mX.  sounds like a blessing, fascinating too and delightful, thanks!


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Grungeman17]
    #26646760 - 05/03/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Have a few specimens that were bought in nursery. Now I'm growing from seed!

Really upset that my sister killed my two 10 year old tall boys. I was waiting till I reached a set maturity in life to try mescaline.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: oculodextro]
    #26646787 - 05/03/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey thats one way to do it. I highly suggest some of the general trichcerus cacti groups on facebook for people that dont get bent out of shape over fb...or whatnot but that is where i'm currently learning my cacti propagation teks and mats, as much as I've learned here, these are also really good groups, and some have really blown up as in theres action all day everyday on some. And for sure where to buy one... You gotta be in the appreciation group to get into the auction group, but it's all worth it from knowledge to live availablity. Price...


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: KetamineAndHoes] * 3
    #26646794 - 05/03/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's the best. Like natures MDMA, but better.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26646795 - 05/03/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Now I want to eat it somewhere down in Mexico, and have a day and night to remember.  What’s the duration of a hefty dose?


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: The Blind Ass] * 2
    #26646898 - 05/03/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

About 10-12 hours.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26648178 - 05/04/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The best drug I've ever tried, but it is extremely rare and I've never run into it on the street.

I enjoy it more than I enjoy LSD


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Asclepius] * 1
    #26648191 - 05/04/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Asclepius said:
He had to painstakingly skin the cacti at just the right depth (because you only want to ingest the outer, dark green portion of the plant), and then he had to let skin dry for quite some time.





None of that is necessary, though.


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    #26648450 - 05/04/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: TheEschatologist]
    #26648558 - 05/04/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How hard is it to water a pot 4 times a summer?:shrug:


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: TheEschatologist] * 4
    #26648567 - 05/04/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Mescaline is fantastic IME.  I've only had the Hcl twice @741mg(w/ low dose Datura and oral jwh-018) and 509mg(w/ 31mg 4-ho-mipt) but that was enough to convince me ov its sheer awesomeness.  Mescaline is Venus to Psilocybe's Saturn and LSD's Mercury.  Very floral and liquid in sensorial character, like a sojourn within an enchanted garden  Natural feeling, but in a very different way than the mushrooms psilocybe.  Mushrooms are more inward and occult like roots and mesc is outward like a flower bloom.  Awesome tactility and warm euphoria.  Longer lasting than L on a comparative dose IME.  For instance, my first time with that 741mg( i thought that i should have a proper initiation :cool:) was still going VERY strong when i decided to assuage with Xanax at 17 hours.  Fabulous!


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: lavod] * 1
    #26648574 - 05/04/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wow lavod; so beautifully put.

I couldn't agree more.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26648635 - 05/04/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They should make the pills that Huxley had available again already

No way Im choking down a bunch of nasty cactus and puke my guts out for a trip


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Tripsurfer] * 4
    #26648680 - 05/04/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I've never tried it like that. Sounds rough.

I've been through many, many grams of HCL and D-Limonene extracted (Acetate) though, and never a spot of nausea!!

Plus it's so priddy!!!



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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Tripsurfer] * 2
    #26648686 - 05/04/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Mescaline is the rolls royce of psychedelics.

Top notch.

Better than mushrooms and LSD by far in my view.

Its worth the great effort of growing cacti for years, boiling them for hours then gulping down the intense tasting beverage.

I rather have 100 doses of mescaline than 1000 doses of LSD.

I get more out of the experience because it freaks me out far less.

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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Asante]
    #26648690 - 05/04/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Mescaline is the rolls royce of psychedelics.



BOOM.

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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26648696 - 05/04/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Guys making me want to eat my sharp friends too soon.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26648699 - 05/04/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My one and only mescaline experience (probably like 10 years ago now) was strange.

I bought a couple of feet of San Pedro. Did the boil down method. Which I failed in epic fashion. If done right I would've been left with like 4 to 6 drinkable ounces.

Instead I was left with like 20 ounces.

I got down as much as I could (good lord that stuff is as vile as they say), which was around 16 ounces.

Tripped pretty hard. I was at my apartment. Turned on the TV and everybody on the screen looked like they were swimming in makeup. Caked in it. Music was pretty fabulous I must say. But I didn't puke -- even though I was kinda nauseous and saddled with a heavy body load. In hindsight I should've tried to puke.

Due to the body load I pretty much laid on the couch the entire time. Watching adult swim. The trip was freaking LONG, too. I remember dosing at around 8 pm and still being wide awake until past noon the next day.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26648707 - 05/04/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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No way Im choking down a bunch of nasty cactus and puke my guts out for a trip





How much do you think you need to drink?  ...and if I recall correctly the nausea was manageable, never vomited.  :shrug:


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: oculodextro]
    #26648710 - 05/04/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Guys making me want to eat my sharp friends too soon.



Patience, young Jedi.

My current crop back in England are about seven years old now, and they've still got time yet...


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: lavod]
    #26648805 - 05/04/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Mescaline is fantastic IME.  I've only had the Hcl twice @741mg(w/ low dose Datura and oral jwh-018) and 509mg(w/ 31mg 4-ho-mipt) but that was enough to convince me ov its sheer awesomeness.  Mescaline is Venus to Psilocybe's Saturn and LSD's Mercury.  Very floral and liquid in sensorial character, like a sojourn within an enchanted garden  Natural feeling, but in a very different way than the mushrooms psilocybe.  Mushrooms are more inward and occult like roots and mesc is outward like a flower bloom.  Awesome tactility and warm euphoria.  Longer lasting than L on a comparative dose IME.  For instance, my first time with that 741mg( i thought that i should have a proper initiation :cool:) was still going VERY strong when i decided to assuage with Xanax at 17 hours.  Fabulous!



Do you think 1000mg of HCL is too high of a dose? That's what I've got and I'm trying to decide whether to split it. may be my only opportunity to use it so I want the experience to be powerful


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26648873 - 05/04/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

oculodextro said:
Guys making me want to eat my sharp friends too soon.



Patience, young Jedi.

My current crop back in England are about seven years old now, and they've still got time yet...




I have 2 cactuses that are about 2 feet tall, some seedlings of torches, and a L. williamsi (1 germinated out of 50 :frown: )


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: 1234go]
    #26649526 - 05/05/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

More than I care for going by the stories I read online


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #26649687 - 05/05/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

1,000 mgs is 2 solid doses. Most I ever took was a little over 500 mgs, and it was really beautiful. It’s a lovely substance...one of my favorites. It also combines really well with LSD. Very powerful & spiritual combination IME. Humbling, but in a serenely beautiful way.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #26649766 - 05/05/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Mescaline was very nice. I expected it to be chill from what I've read on it compared to any other psychedelic. And it was! :awesome:


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: blackhawk]
    #26649827 - 05/05/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ive never spoken to anyone who's just gobbled up cactus or made a tea out of it. How would this approach differ from eating crystals from an extraction as far as duration or intensity of the trip? Or nausea for that matter?


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26649870 - 05/05/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There was a guy on here (I'm trying to remember his name) that used to eat cactus on the regular. He would grab 12"-18" and a can of root beer, sit down and eat it like a carrot. Said he never got nauseous from it. Who was that guy? Anyone remember? I think he had a stroke (unrelated of course).


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: pslyke] * 2
    #26649945 - 05/05/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think you're talkin about starfire_xes.


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    #26649973 - 05/05/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you think 1000mg of HCL is too high of a dose? That's what I've got and I'm trying to decide whether to split it. may be my only opportunity to use it so I want the experience to be powerful




Not my call to make TBH, although i will say that psychedelic experientalism favors the daring.  The willingness to submit to phytognostic potential affords a heightened realization itself IME.  I'm lucky in that the gram ov HCL i ordered through a friend turned out heavy so that i could split it 750/500 more or less instead ov 500 a piece.  The former was a heavy dose and perfect for an initiation in retrospect.  I'm not sure what could be gained by going with a whole g, and imposed with a similar amount i would personally split it 750/250.  Ov course, one has to consider that mescaline does not enjoy the safety profile ov some other traditional psychedelics due to vasoconstriction and dehydration and such, although i do'nt believe those side effects are as prominent as other heavy phens.  Your call though and your dosage response may differ from my own.  Dosing is intuitive for the wise.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: lavod]
    #26650553 - 05/05/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I wasnt aware that it was more dangerous, thanks (and dark star as well).

Im think I am just gonna split it in 2 500s and drop a half dose of lucy with it the second time

Saving it for a momentous occasion though


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    #26650564 - 05/05/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

mescaline is the best psychedelic and probably the only one i'll ever use again.


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    #26650568 - 05/05/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thems some fighting words


I personally find each to be useful in different ways. Shrooms are emotionally cathertic. Lsd is motivating and fun.


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    #26650752 - 05/05/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Im think I am just gonna split it in 2 500s and drop a half dose of lucy with it the second time



I think you'll be VERY happy with the outcome of this. Best way to use it IMO.


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    #26651544 - 05/05/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think I'll throw in a gram of mushrooms just to complete the triad. why not. bucket list or whatever

ive already done lsd, shrooms, and DMT at once before. don't ask, it wasn't that great, or if it was, I can't recall. that is the neo-classical triad, if you will. mesc, shrooms, and LSD is the OG classical triad. I think will be a bit more manageable. DMT is too much, it's not my thing.


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    #26651581 - 05/05/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I would advise against adding the shrooms to the mix. The synergy is nothing like it is with acid.


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    #26651703 - 05/05/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

One thing that separates mescaline from the other ‘classics’ is the need to get a “solid” dose isn’t really the same.  With mescaline you can take smaller doses and you don’t feel like you got cheated or missed out on anything.  I would suggest a good dose but there’s times when you’re out and about that a smaller dose works perfectly where with LSD you would be like wtf?:shrug:


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26651905 - 05/05/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I find with mescaline a "proper" dose is best, such as 2ft of San Pedro. Yeah, u could microdose but the real action is with a proper dose.

That being said, Mescaline with Marijuana (Mescajuana) is one of the best combos Ive ever done. Its Magical.


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    #26652086 - 05/06/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Mescaline is a wondrous experience-- I don't have the experience of many others but I have had it many times. (search for user Heyowana here for an entertaining read-- he was doing it weekly there for a couple months in his Matucana Pachanoi thread and writing about it)

I've not ever had LSD, but I can agree that bridgesii in particular reminded me very much of MDMA-- it's a distinct experience from that though-- very... whole.

Things look beautiful-- incredible with trees and plants in particular-- but if you are in a dirty place, it will draw out/amplify those elements too. Make sure your environment is tidy or you will notice things like stains and clutter.

To me cactus always seems to make me feel grounded far more than other things-- but I agree with others that the mindfuck never hits as hard as with other alks. I've never gone for "heroic" doses though-- it's too valuable to burn up too much in one go, and 2 feet of solid cactus is plenty to experience everything you could want.

Caution though-- stronger cactus (or consistently solid ones like most bridges) can take you to Pluto with a single foot-- so keep in mind that if you overdo it, you could be looking at 12 or 16 hours of it, which is taxing even in the best conditions. A smart way to approach it may be to try a third of what you have, then next time you'll have far more info to judge for the remainder-- because every single plant is unique in alk content, so you just can't really know until you try it (unless you do an extraction of course)

Music is very good, but not as good/immersive as DMT w/rue harmalas (or true Aya!) at least in my experience.
I always avoid things like TV/movies, as they seem to force the nature of the trip in disturbing directions-- away from nature somehow. That may just be me though-- I'm sensitive to negativity under the influence of all psychedelics though-- so I always avoid hat kind of stuff.

Overall I can't recommend mescaline highly enough-- it's worth it. Properly slow-boiling and filtering makes it taste better and reduces the sliminess that makes so many people sick, and I always cut it with strong coffee and Mexican Tarragon tea, which helps a lot with palatability and enhances effects.

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    #26652121 - 05/06/20 03:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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This opinion is going to come across strong, but I assure you that mescaline aswell as other mystery alkaloids in the plant, there is no other words for its simple complexity. The curve to learning and propagating cacti is no different than the knowledge it takes to understand mycology. I really could go on about this but its not just me, the price of these things are through the roof and well sought after by propagators and psychonauts alike. I have done on averge of 2 feet from various trichocerus species. Mainly Bridgidessi for it is "considered"  best average potency variety. But others are great too. 2ft is considered 3-4 on the trip scale. Mescaline is easy on the mind, im not saying it's not possible to have a bad trip, but it is unlikey when all other trip aspects have been checked. The biggest thing to me with cacti... Is the cleansing process that takes place in your mind body and spirit. To me the mushroom spirit is of a mother or woman and mescaline is for sure and uncle or a grandfather. But no seriosuly it cleans you out... it also has a real application in addiction. And the people that grow them, besides the greedy bastards, are some of the best and most knowledgable plant growers and foragers. For the know the true value.




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    #26652991 - 05/06/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

it's good for stress i have heard :stoned:


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    #26653007 - 05/06/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I've tried it maybe four times with only two successes. As others have said, it tastes pretty bad, but as I found out with the two failed attempts where I encapsulated it to avoid the taste, the main route of absorption is sublingual/buchal, and you gotz to chew that shit.

For me it was way stranger than acid or ayahuasca. I looked in the mirror at one stage and the top part of my head tipped over and drooped down so my eyes were upside down next to the other part of my head. Everything otherwise looked normal. It also made me more lovey than acid. I even rang a friend at one point and asked her to come over for a hug. Sadly she never came, and to this day a dark and depressive cloud trails me everywhere I go and casts a shadow in the shape a lone person hugging no one :frown:

It's an experience I'd recommend. Like others have said, it comes on slow. There's a cleaner kind of vibe to it than acid or ayahuasca. With acid and ayahuasca the whole of your visual field is moving, but mescaline leaves a lot of things in tact, and when weird shit happens it's not always moving and morphing but has a greater sense of reality to it, if that makes sense.


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    #26653018 - 05/06/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I've heard it described before as 'a sober feeling high'.

I always thought that was pretty spot on, at least until one gets into heroic dose territory. Get too far into that and before you know it you're pulling levers that control the universe.


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    #26653023 - 05/06/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It does make sense, fungi does that for me - like leaving things intact - but at the same time, adding more to what’s already there, or me becoming more aware of stuff my brain filters out.  With lower doses things get Murphy and bendy and trails sometimes ,  but higher doses are so clean to me, the visuals are like a part of reality that I just become aware of, rather than the manipulation of the reality itself.

That’s how it seems,to me at least,  I prefer that.  Last time I did Lucy I couldn’t even see in front of me because things were warping and distorting as a whole so much so that nothing was fixed.  That’s different and can have its own virtue too , but yeah I’d like to try mesc :tongue:


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    #26653280 - 05/06/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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That being said, Mescaline with Marijuana (Mescajuana) is one of the best combos Ive ever done. Its Magical.




Glad somebody said this. Vaping some herb on the tail end of a mesc trip was unexpectedly spectacular. Doing some deep stretching on this combo is like heaven on earth. So good it's almost like cheating, as if you should pay some price for that feeling like you do with hard drugs, but's it's just free.

There was a guy on DMT-nexus who swore by coffee + mescaline. Interested in testing this even though I don't usually like the stimulation of caffeine, maybe they synergise to create a better effect. Man i have so many different trips planned for after lockdown haha.




Next time, vape on the peak (about 2 hrs into the Mescaline trip). It will blow yer mind! :wooyeah: :bongload: :sanpedro:

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    #26653378 - 05/06/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

mimosa is also a pretty chill one.


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Re: Let's talk about mescaline. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26653390 - 05/06/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I've heard it described before as 'a sober feeling high'.

I always thought that was pretty spot on, at least until one gets into heroic dose territory. Get too far into that and before you know it you're pulling levers that control the universe.




Control the Levers Matey! :mindblown:

I find that cocaine has that sober/High feeling, even moreso than mescaline but thats just me :wink:


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