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#26646594 - 05/03/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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People, KEEP HANGING IN THERE. Many of you have been in isolation for several weeks, spring is enticing you to come out.. DON'T DO IT. Stick to disciplined use of the public space. COVID is out there, it rises mostly under the radar and only gets seen 2-3 weeks after the fact.
What you see where I live is that people get "COVID tired" and get in crowded situations again.
That is exactly the time when YOU should dig in deeper.
The month of May may prove dramatic in many places. Please do your best to have you and your loved ones not get caught up in the drama.
Don't become a statistic.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Asante]
#26646598 - 05/03/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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crossin swords out of the question? an action of respect by both teams only kiddding. seriously though people aren't abiding
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Cavemen]
#26646622 - 05/03/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I’m just trying to get those antibodies mannn.
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#26646648 - 05/03/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Every Aerospace company in the country is operating right now but go on ahead and hide. I mean 1 person infected the whole world so as long as there is 1 left we gotta hide. Till 2022
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#26646662 - 05/03/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If my favorite sushi goes bankrupt because of this, I will punch China right in the Beijing.
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#26646703 - 05/03/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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At first I was fearful.
Now, I'm beginning to see it for what it may really be.
I am more fearful of CDC guidelines than Covid.
We really don't know what we are dealing with. They say coronavirus but they used the same testing methods used in 2002 to determine these claims, and those test in 2002 only 80% resembled a coronavirus.
I honestly think this is a bad flu that those in power saw coming and planned these lockdowns for financial gains, knowing well enough that china had waited until herd immunity before it implemented lockdown procedures.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: HamHead]
#26646727 - 05/03/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I’ll play it appropriately safe and by ear and eye till there is an accurate consensus on the situation. Sticking with the program for now, likely the rest of the year until more light is shed on the situation.
And of course people will profit from it, that’s nothing new. Everyone always tried to profit from any and everything - when was that new? Doesn’t change the situation much at all. Appropriate is the word.
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#26646752 - 05/03/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hiking reopens in my area next week, you bet your ass I am going to hike. Not sure why we were not allowed to hike in the first place, long trails are not really the most social activity where people are all that near each other ffs
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#26646779 - 05/03/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, I’ve been craving to go out into some of my cities nature reserves and hike around and soak it all in, but they were all closed. Opens on the 8th ish I think. Outside in wide open forest it would be hard to get covid I’d imagine.
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#26646784 - 05/03/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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They closed down hiking to the top of mountains and old old old ghost towns which are multi mile hikes to get to.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
#26646828 - 05/03/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I want some fuck.
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All fucks have been quarantined and shut down, legs have been closed across state lines - sorry.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26646852 - 05/03/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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No bueno. I'm going to protest.
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Apparently local priests are being visited with more frequency. They’re always down for fucc.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Asante] 4
#26646938 - 05/03/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asante said: People, KEEP HANGING IN THERE. Many of you have been in isolation for several weeks, spring is enticing you to come out.. DON'T DO IT. Stick to disciplined use of the public space. COVID is out there, it rises mostly under the radar and only gets seen 2-3 weeks after the fact.
What you see where I live is that people get "COVID tired" and get in crowded situations again.
That is exactly the time when YOU should dig in deeper.
The month of May may prove dramatic in many places. Please do your best to have you and your loved ones not get caught up in the drama.
Don't become a statistic.
I agree that the complacency is really bad at this point.
My brother works at one of the best hospitals in the US and he recently heard a conference call with some of the nurses treating people with this virus.
They stated that even with decades of experience in the nursing profession, they weren't mentally or emotionally prepared to deal with the patients suffering from COVID. This isn't the common flu, it's MUCH worse. The MSM in the US doesn't show what it looks like on TV, they are shielding people from the true horrors inside of the hospitals. Even if the virus doesn't kill you, it might severely damage your lungs or kidneys in the process.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: qman]
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Asante said: People, KEEP HANGING IN THERE. Many of you have been in isolation for several weeks, spring is enticing you to come out.. DON'T DO IT. Stick to disciplined use of the public space. COVID is out there, it rises mostly under the radar and only gets seen 2-3 weeks after the fact.
What you see where I live is that people get "COVID tired" and get in crowded situations again.
That is exactly the time when YOU should dig in deeper.
The month of May may prove dramatic in many places. Please do your best to have you and your loved ones not get caught up in the drama.
Don't become a statistic.
I agree that the complacency is really bad at this point.
My brother works at one of the best hospitals in the US and he recently heard a conference call with some of the nurses treating people with this virus.
They stated that even with decades of experience in the nursing profession, they weren't mentally or emotionally prepared to deal with the patients suffering from COVID. This isn't the common flu, it's MUCH worse. The MSM in the US doesn't show what it looks like on TV, they are shielding people from the true horrors inside of the hospitals. Even if the virus doesn't kill you, it might severely damage your lungs or kidneys in the process.
Oh yeah they're traumatized
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8276617/Nurses-slammed-filming-TikTok-video-showing-dancing-carrying-COVID-19-BODY-BAG.html

PS I know someone who had a covid related heart attack and wound up on a ventilator and even they're in good spirits.
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What's your point exactly? I don't want to put words in your mouth.
What conclusions should we make from ten potentially irresponsible nurses?
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Asante]
#26646964 - 05/03/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asante said: People, KEEP HANGING IN THERE. Many of you have been in isolation for several weeks, spring is enticing you to come out.. DON'T DO IT...
Have started going for walks up the road in the morning it is about a quarter mile each way (maybe a half mile, am bad with distances lol...) the first day a car with a couple of elderly people drove past me, obviously lost because my road is a dead end aside from that, nobody but me and the dogs
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: qman]
#26646988 - 05/03/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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qman said: What's your point exactly? I don't want to put words in your mouth.
What conclusions should we make from ten potentially irresponsible nurses?
my initial conclusion is that none of them work in E.R. could be people from x-ray imaging, blood lab, EKG all with nothing to do all day because 90% of mundane services are cancelled until further notice
so nearly a dozen people all observing extreme disifectant protocols with nothing to do all day but clean and pace the halls dancing in a stairwell
the lack of space between them is definitely cause for concern despite my seeming position of forgiveness am more critical of this batch than the batch dancing in the waiting room and wonder how nurses who are having to deal with Covid patients really feel about it


second image here is example of mixed narrative tho comes from an April 13th article that may have inspired all the tik tok dances
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LOS ANGELES• A United States doctor's dance videos posted on social media have proven just the right medicine for hundreds of thousands of people, including healthcare workers, who are cheering him on for lifting their spirits during the coronavirus pandemic.
Dubbed Tik Tok Doc after the popular short-form video app, Dr Jason Campbell has taken the Internet by storm with clips featuring him and colleagues doing the "corona foot shake", "the cha-cha slide" and other dance moves.
The 31-year-old anaesthesia resident physician at Oregon Health & Science University Hospital told AFP he has been overwhelmed by the positive response, including from healthcare workers in New York, the country's epicentre of the Covid-19 pandemic.
"When you're in medicine, you see a lot of serious, sad things all the time," Dr Campbell said. "And so we too need a way to remain human, stay sane and a chance to just smile or laugh, even if it's just five minutes out of a 12-hour day."
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"I got a message from someone who said his wife was a cardiologist working with Covid-19 response teams and found the videos so refreshing," he said.
Another message came from a lung cancer patient who thanked him for making his quarantine more bearable.
"The overwhelming response has been, 'Hey, I work in New York City and I love seeing your video after my long day'," he said.
"Others say: 'Hey, my family member has the virus and we watch these videos together while they recover.'"
He said fellow doctors and nurses at the hospital in Portland were initially reluctant to appear in the videos, but after seeing the positive reactions have joined in the fun.
Hospital officials have applauded the initiative.
"Dr Campbell's energy and charisma is infectious," said Dr Renee Edwards, the hospital's chief medical officer.
The videos have been hailed by the state's governor and even caught the attention of popular recording artist Janet Jackson, who retweeted one of the doctor's TikToks.
https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/entertainment/dancing-doctor-prescribes-right-medicine
apparently the "first" instances of dancing were over a month ago and patients, medical staff, and even the New York State govenor approved of it
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: qman]
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qman said: What's your point exactly? I don't want to put words in your mouth.
What conclusions should we make from ten potentially irresponsible nurses?
10? What world do you live on, its literally daily videos on tik tok
Now I am certain you have had internet since you are on this forum

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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Tantrika]
#26647011 - 05/03/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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qman said: What's your point exactly? I don't want to put words in your mouth.
What conclusions should we make from ten potentially irresponsible nurses?
my initial conclusion is that none of them work in E.R. could be people from x-ray imaging, blood lab, EKG all with nothing to do all day because 90% of mundane services are cancelled until further notice
so nearly a dozen people all observing extreme disifectant protocols with nothing to do all day but clean and pace the halls dancing in a stairwell
the lack of space between them is definitely cause for concern despite my seeming position of forgiveness am more critical of this batch than the batch dancing in the waiting room and wonder how nurses who are having to deal with Covid patients really feel about it


second image here is example of mixed narrative tho comes from an April 13th article that may have inspired all the tik tok dances
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LOS ANGELES• A United States doctor's dance videos posted on social media have proven just the right medicine for hundreds of thousands of people, including healthcare workers, who are cheering him on for lifting their spirits during the coronavirus pandemic.
Dubbed Tik Tok Doc after the popular short-form video app, Dr Jason Campbell has taken the Internet by storm with clips featuring him and colleagues doing the "corona foot shake", "the cha-cha slide" and other dance moves.
The 31-year-old anaesthesia resident physician at Oregon Health & Science University Hospital told AFP he has been overwhelmed by the positive response, including from healthcare workers in New York, the country's epicentre of the Covid-19 pandemic.
"When you're in medicine, you see a lot of serious, sad things all the time," Dr Campbell said. "And so we too need a way to remain human, stay sane and a chance to just smile or laugh, even if it's just five minutes out of a 12-hour day."
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"I got a message from someone who said his wife was a cardiologist working with Covid-19 response teams and found the videos so refreshing," he said.
Another message came from a lung cancer patient who thanked him for making his quarantine more bearable.
"The overwhelming response has been, 'Hey, I work in New York City and I love seeing your video after my long day'," he said.
"Others say: 'Hey, my family member has the virus and we watch these videos together while they recover.'"
He said fellow doctors and nurses at the hospital in Portland were initially reluctant to appear in the videos, but after seeing the positive reactions have joined in the fun.
Hospital officials have applauded the initiative.
"Dr Campbell's energy and charisma is infectious," said Dr Renee Edwards, the hospital's chief medical officer.
The videos have been hailed by the state's governor and even caught the attention of popular recording artist Janet Jackson, who retweeted one of the doctor's TikToks.
https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/entertainment/dancing-doctor-prescribes-right-medicine
apparently the "first" instances of dancing were over a month ago and patients, medical staff, and even the New York State govenor approved of it
Not emergency? Check bottom right, that is right in front of the fucking emergency room lmao

and for fuck sake hospitals are essential and covid only right now lmao stop trying to cover up for the government they don't need assistance.
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#26647021 - 05/03/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Imagine if you will, MK Ultra so powerful it has people defending the government on a drug production website full of people the government wants to arrest.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
#26647025 - 05/03/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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qman said: What's your point exactly? I don't want to put words in your mouth.
What conclusions should we make from ten potentially irresponsible nurses?
10? What world do you live on, its literally daily videos on tik tok
Now I am certain you have had internet since you are on this forum


So you can't make any conclusion on it?
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Show me your conclusion on the situation shit for brains.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: qman]
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Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
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budmanman said: ... Not emergency? Check bottom right, that is right in front of the fucking emergency room lmao...
I am sorry did not realize you were going to move the goal posts and change the image being discussed to try and disprove my point responded explicitly to the image of nurses in the stairwell, and my statement made clear that my level of criticism is proportionate to when and where the video was filmed
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budmanman said: ... and for fuck sake hospitals are essential and covid only right now lmao stop trying to cover up for the government they don't need assistance.
was literally in to the hospital for non-emergency blood work a couple weeks ago not covid related, just my standard HRT blood work
you are right to a degree tho -- hospitals right now are patient only, even if not emergency only my mother could not accompany me to the blood lab despite normally being there to hold my hand -- the hospital would not allow her in when they allowed me in similairly, tho emergency related, my mother's friends husband went in due to heart attack and his wife has not been able to visit him
the blood lab shares a waiting room with EKG, and spent a good half hour watching nurses abjectly wheel around turned-off machines and clean
tho, none of this is me "covering up for the government" this is me recognizing that hospital staff is impacted by Covid at different levels and that stress is relieved in different manners
a bunch of images of nurses dancing after a doctor got popular on tiktok for cheering people up with his covid dancing is pretty consistent in terms of expected outcome for me tho even if fully able to recognize that some hospital staff are more responsible than others, even when engaging in recreation
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My local hospitals are literally begging the governor to let them have non essential patients come in and laying people off left and fucking right lmao
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/doctors-hospitals-urge-inslee-to-restart-elective-procedures-as-covid-19-patient-numbers-decline/
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"my initial conclusion is that none of them work in E.R. could be people from x-ray imaging, blood lab, EKG all with nothing to do all day because 90% of mundane services are cancelled until further notice"
And moving the goal post lmao no thats you, you said your initial conclusion is that they're not ER they obviously couldn't be ER nurses and doctors how could they be if they're tik tok dancing right? W
Well then I dick slapped you with some people right in front of the ER and now you side step and goal post move lmao
Talk about obvious liberal.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
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budmanman said: Show me your conclusion on the situation shit for brains.
Those photos don't lead me to any conclusion on the issue, but since you posted it, that's why I asked you about it.
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#26647058 - 05/03/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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budmanman said: "my initial conclusion is that none of them work in E.R. could be people from x-ray imaging, blood lab, EKG all with nothing to do all day because 90% of mundane services are cancelled until further notice"
And moving the goal post lmao no thats you, you said your initial conclusion is that they're not ER they obviously couldn't be ER nurses and doctors how could they be if they're tik tok dancing right? W ...
Did not say they could not be ER nurses said my initial conclusion reached by seeing them in a non-E.R. portion of the hospital fucking around was that none of them work in the E.R.
you have failed to show that any of them work in E.R., and instead resorted to showing images of different individuals in order to claim that my interpretation of the image of nurses on the stairs was incorrect
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budmanman said: Well then I dick slapped you with some people right in front of the ER and now you side step and goal post move lmao
Talk about obvious liberal.
a "dick slap" would explain why nothing was felt on my end when it happened
if you have evidence that the people on the stairs are the same people from the E.R. image, feel free to provide it
otherwise this is still obvious goal post moving
and particularly pathetic, as my post both acknowledged that such behaviour could be offensive to other nurses and provided an example of a doctor dancing in front of triage as someone whom it was possible for me to recognize was working with Covid and still partaking in (and possibly being the one who encouraged) dancing
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
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budmanman said: Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao

I'm sincerely happy you had mild symptoms relative to other people. Hopefully we have reliable statistics about how this virus affects people, that's very important in my opinion.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Tantrika]
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Yall think your average doctor or nurse gives a shit about the virus. They're not even remotely scared of it, unless they're over 50 and even those people are barely scared of it. Doctors and nurses with son little to do they're making tik took videos
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budmanman said: Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao

I'm sincerely happy you had mild symptoms relative to other people. Hopefully we have reliable statistics about how this virus affects people, that's very important in my opinion.
People under 50 years old have a 99.9% chance of having it mild when you factor in people having it so mild they don't even fukken notice they have it at all lol a virus so deadly that half the people who get it don't even notice
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
#26647076 - 05/03/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I already hated people so I approve of continued social distancing.
But I hate being poor and trusting authority to care for me more. Cuz ime they fucking suck at it.
Honestly we need to start getting ready to open everything back up and how to continue to limit exposure when we do.
And/or make a new economic system. That would be rather nice.
Probably would take a severe depression and decades to get away from this kind of capitalism though.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26647082 - 05/03/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let's say drugs are legal tomorrow. Who will make then for free without capitalism?
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
#26647085 - 05/03/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The governments literally like hey its illegal to capitalize on recrational drugs and people do it anyway.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
#26647087 - 05/03/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah but people go to jail and have their lives ruined over it.
Free market my ass.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26647089 - 05/03/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The same exact reason why the government shouldn't be allowed to restrict our movement is the same exact reason why the government shouldn't be allowed to say what goes into our bodies. Wanna warn me fine but at the end of the day we get to make our choices. More people would die from OD than from this pathetic virus if drugs were legal but that is the beauty if freedom u get to decide your risk levels in life. Not some authoritarian dictatorship.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
#26647096 - 05/03/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Who decided local news is essential? Turn that shit off.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Hunter hunter]
#26647118 - 05/03/20 10:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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^ this guy is woke fr fr
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
#26647164 - 05/03/20 11:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not really the thread for what I believe we should have instead of capitalism but it's not communism. It's something people have a hard time wrapping their head around.
It's basically this, except altruistic motives instead of greed.
It's setting things up in a way that people really are the most productive they can be in society. And it starts with education.
Anyway my real bone to pick with capitalism is that it isn't what it claims to be.
Same with communism.
Though I think in both cases it's just because people are running things. We could set up things to my ideal and small changes over generations would degrade it to the point it's just a buzzword.
Likewise 0 socialism wouldn't work in our capitalism simply because people are uneducated and have been trained to be lazy and seek immediate gratification. They have no idea how business or logistics work so they can't make informed choices.
Shits gonna get real bad real fast if certain things collapse under the economic downturn because we're a few generations into having distant affiliations to reality where things don't magically appear and you can't just go find it at another location.
And we're addicted to everything being immediately available all the time. I mean people have assaulted McDonald's employees because they ran out of mcnuggets. Can you imagine these people dealing with genuine shortages?
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26647169 - 05/03/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shortages are coming, if the economy doesn't recover in 1.5 year I will feel the impacts.
I am immune for 1.5 year after that it can hit me, though worst case scenario I can get a min wage job or something and hobble along paying my mortgage and barely surviving.
I am 15 years paid down on a 30 year mortgage and did it in 4 years. It was suppose to be paid off in 5 years but the way things are going that's not gonna happen.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman] 1
#26647447 - 05/04/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao

Have you had a chest X-ray done to check for lung damage?
Even some asymptomatic people have lung damage.
Congratulations on having had it. Lets hope reinfection is not a thing, but it seems to be.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Asante]
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budmanman said: Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao

Have you had a chest X-ray done to check for lung damage?
Even some asymptomatic people have lung damage.
Congratulations on having had it. Lets hope reinfection is not a thing, but it seems to be.
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budmanman said: Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao

Have you had a chest X-ray done to check for lung damage?
Even some asymptomatic people have lung damage.
Congratulations on having had it. Lets hope reinfection is not a thing, but it seems to be.
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54% of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 showed remarkable findings upon imaging with CT. Recall that a fairly high percentage those that contracted SARS and survived went on to develop compromised lung function. Perhaps I am conflating two unrelated observations? Time will tell. I hope it is not the case.
My cousin who's 30 and healthy still can't breathe, now going on 7 weeks from infection. Blood O2 still in the COPD range, and not improving, dizziness while walking.
The doctors pretty much told her they don't have enough information to know if/when it will heal.
Considering budmanman just straight up makes things up and clearly only cares about promoting his agenda (despite facts and common sense), people likely shouldn't waste their energy on him with this topic.
As far as the OP, I'm happy to be living in a state that's actually taking this seriously and letting those who have actual education in public health/epidemiology, virology, and economics guide the decisions. The numbers are starting to go down, and we're, slowly, reopening non-essential services and businesses that make sense to open. The mayor/governor completely expect a second wave, but now that we have the medical infrastructure in place and are growing our PPE and medication supplies, we'll be in as good a place as possible to handle it as long as things are done gradually.
The states that are rushing things are likely screwing themselves over, on the obvious public health side and also on the economic side. They won't be paying out pandemic relief and unemployment to millions because things are technically allowed to be "open", even though business will be awful because the resurgence of the virus will cause panic and millions of people too sick to work or frequent these businesses. The whole "reopen" campaign will ultimately lead to a far larger money grabs by the elite, as they get a month or two without needing to pay into unemployment or hold up rent/mortgages, and then when the second wave is disastrous they can get another epic bailout, rinse repeat.
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#26647748 - 05/04/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear that feevers but EXACTLY THIS.
People look at the presumed death rate and go "its not as bad as getting shot" but what they don't see is the larger number injured longterm.
Its like the Tokyo subway nerve gas attack, the body count wasnt that high but there was a large number of people that got lastingly injured by it, they just didnt fully make it back.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Asante] 1
#26647768 - 05/04/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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We've all seen the movies where there's a group of people stuck in a storm or a war zone or something, lost in the woods or stuck on an island, car breaks down in the middle of nowhere, etc.
The group usually comes to the conclusion that they're better off sticking together and waiting for help. But there's always that one guy that waits for like 20 minutes then starts panicking with the situation and the boredom of waiting, and decides to go against everyone's advice and go off alone to try to fix things.
Unfortunately a whole bunch of americans are that guy.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: feevers]
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: feevers]
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Unfortunately a whole bunch of americans are that guy.
A whole lot of Dutch are too.
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Gun fatalities in 2017 just under 40,000
Coronavirus deaths so far in 2020 68,000
The US death toll will likely more than double annual shooting deaths.
And that's if we keep trying to some extent.
Even if a quarter is being misrepresented it's still far exceeding bad flus.
That being said yes some people get it and have mild symptoms. We have absolutely o idea what proportion though. It's assumed to be a majority just by the way it spreads but we really don't know.
And we're not getting a good breakdown of %s by age ect. We have 46 million people in this country who are over 65. Even if 90% of fatalities are in that age group that could still be an unimaginable amount of death.
Enough to break the healthcare system and incite human rights violations.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26647819 - 05/04/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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  Imagine the people who say let the old and vulnerable fend for themselves...when they get older and if a similar event happens to them while they are geriatric. Bet they might take a different stance on things when it’s their ass that’s going to get sick and or debilitated and or die. Ass under your fire usually rouses the sleeping ones.
I get all sides to this pandemic, and I really believe the gov. Botched the response, leading to inappropriate announcements and measures that helped to impact the schism in different demographics regarding the virus and response to it on a national scale.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: The Blind Ass]
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Won't even need to be an event, the GOP is trying to use the pandemic to try and finally gut medicare and social security https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26647740
If the elderly lose that income and healthcare, every day could become a national health crisis for them
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: feevers]
#26647853 - 05/04/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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It would be ironic if the first great depression started those things and the 2nd ended them.
Both are already kinda shit though. The problem with these programs isn't that they give people money, it's usually that they're wildly inefficient.
Also I agree that our response could have been a lot better but the initial shutdown was necessary. To get people and especially business to take it seriously if nothing else.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26647904 - 05/04/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is a part of my COVID prep:

As you see a book closet got its books cleared out and used as a food storage closet. The plastic milk containers appropriated to 0.625 gallon storage containers, the white ones hold whey protein, the orange ones, red lentils. Inbetween a tray of tuna, instant mashed potato, milk powder, lots of tomato concentrate and sugar/additive free applesauce portions.
White and blue vats on the left are rice. Yeah, Basmati rice is clearly my staple.
On the right, 4 8 gallon vats, a 4 gallon vat and a tall freezer I got in january for the purpose of the COVID prep. Freezer's got lots of fish, meat and vegs especially, the 4gal vat holds whole egg powder, the 4 vats of 8 gal are for oatmeal, freeze dried vegetable mix and lentils.
This is just a part of the prep, but shows what you can do on just a small floorspace.
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Won't even need to be an event, the GOP is trying to use the pandemic to try and finally gut medicare and social security https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26647740
If the elderly lose that income and healthcare, every day could become a national health crisis for them
I’ve known those programs would suffer for the past 15-20 years, that plus the debt of the US eventually coming to a head. I suppose now is a good time to finagle things under the cover of covid. It’s only natural that someone’s crunched the numbers and saw an easy part time immediate yet short term solution to a lot of the aforementioned woe of those programs and the debt.

P.s. Asante, what’s in the pinkish jugs at the bottom shelf? Long term premade shelf stable strawberry milk That would be awesome.
Pp. I want to be a sexy hyper doomsday prepper with all those underground luxury bunkers and shit
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: The Blind Ass]
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P.s. Asante, what’s in the pinkish jugs at the bottom shelf? Long term premade shelf stable strawberry milk That would be awesome.
What the jugs are are 2.4 liter = 0.625 gallon milk jugs. They are disposable, but foodgrade plastic,k airtight, bugproof.
Whats IN them:
No strawberry milk, its dried red lentils., works great for macaroni, rice, grains, sugar etc too.

Its a legume that can be cooked alongside rice and has 22% protein and lots of fibre. If you cook 2 parts white rice +1 part red lentils you get a complete protein and good fiber and nutrients.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: Asante]
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budmanman said: Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao

Have you had a chest X-ray done to check for lung damage?
Even some asymptomatic people have lung damage.
Congratulations on having had it. Lets hope reinfection is not a thing, but it seems to be.
There is no known reinfections yet. Some people have tested positive again and at this point it looks like false negatives then a positive, or residual RNA from broken up viruses still in the body, the tests can't tell the difference between live and dead viruses.
Basic virology is that you catch a virus, you make anti bodies to defeat the virus and then for an amount of time which with this virus is still to be determined, you keep creating anti bodies, you can expect at a very minimum 4 months of immunity after.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: pslyke]
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budmanman said: Here is a conclusion for you, I had the virus it was a fucking mild cough lmao

Have you had a chest X-ray done to check for lung damage?
Even some asymptomatic people have lung damage.
Congratulations on having had it. Lets hope reinfection is not a thing, but it seems to be.
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54% of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 showed remarkable findings upon imaging with CT. Recall that a fairly high percentage those that contracted SARS and survived went on to develop compromised lung function. Perhaps I am conflating two unrelated observations? Time will tell. I hope it is not the case.
DAmn that's cray, I mean viruses attack and kill cells and they can see something?
Here is the flu doing the exact same thing to the lungs
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3097804/
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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Coronavirus deaths so far in 2020 68,000
The US death toll will likely more than double annual shooting deaths.
And that's if we keep trying to some extent.
Even if a quarter is being misrepresented it's still far exceeding bad flus.
That being said yes some people get it and have mild symptoms. We have absolutely o idea what proportion though. It's assumed to be a majority just by the way it spreads but we really don't know.
And we're not getting a good breakdown of %s by age ect. We have 46 million people in this country who are over 65. Even if 90% of fatalities are in that age group that could still be an unimaginable amount of death.
Enough to break the healthcare system and incite human rights violations.
Flu has a vaccine and herd immunity from people catching it, it mutates though enough to slip by and make us sick but even then we have partial immunity and get less sick because our body gets to recognize it and fight it faster.
We also have effective medicines and treatments for people who get really ill from it.
Despite this it still kills lots of people.
This virus has no vaccine no known real effective treatment, and the ones we do think work everyone thinks people shouldn't do cause orange man said something about it.
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Re: Quarantine: stick with the program! [Re: budmanman]
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h1n1 death estimates from 2009 are 150, 000 to 575,000 deaths. Globally right now for Covid is 250,968.
Should we have shut down the whole world, air travel and economy for h1n1? I haven't look at greater than or less than signs since grade school but if I am interpreting this right, 80% of H1N1 deaths were under 65 years old, unlike this virus where the vast majority are over 65.
The US Centre for Disease and Control Prevention (CDC) estimated that 150, 000 to 575,000 people died from (H1N1) pandemic virus infection in the first year of the outbreak.
80% of the virus-related deaths were estimated to occur in those < 65 years of age. In seasonal influenza epidemics, about 70% to 90% of deaths occur in people ≥65.
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