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Hiraeth
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ID W Nebraska
#26641579 - 05/01/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Found in clumps near old elm stump:
https://imgur.com/y4GaDrL
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: Hiraeth]
#26641592 - 05/01/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Non Active Coprinoids.
-------------------- Tips For A Beginner Mushroom Hunter https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27146775 One Who Hunts Mushrooms Is A Mushroom Hunter. One Who Eats Them Without Knowing What They Are, Is A Dumb Mushroom Hunter. - Seph
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Hiraeth
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: MpSeph]
#26641604 - 05/01/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you MpSeph
Do they have any known uses? Edible? Can make ink from them? Any additional info is appreciated, as there are lots of them 😄
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Hiraeth
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: Hiraeth]
#26641615 - 05/01/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok I’m being a lazy newb. I looked them up and found the right match and info.
Coprinellus micaceus
Says they are edible before their autodigestion process starts.
My final question: Are they tasty? I’m thinking of frying up in butter w onions 😄
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: Hiraeth] 1
#26641706 - 05/01/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coprinellus micaceus is correct, and they are very good, though I cook them differently than other mushrooms.
I pick them young, younger than your photo, and with a scissors to keep them clean.
Then spray with water and toss in a mixture of flour with a pinch of salt. Then saute in butter, being careful not to crowd the pan, they shouldn't be touching each other.
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Alan - thank you so much for taking the time to respond and give me such a wonderful recipe recommendation! I can't say how much I appreciate that, and to have you grace my lowly post is a blessing. Made my week/weekend for sure.
Unfortunately my dad informed me (as I was about to pick a bunch) that he had sprayed Glyphosate/Roundup around that area, not realizing those mushrooms were edible or that it could hurt them or their underlying mycelial structure down in the tree roots. I am hoping the amount used was small enough not to mess the entire organism up.
I guess I'll have to wait until next season for these. I really don't understand why people are so eager to spray things and think all mushrooms are just junk or poison. It is one of the great woes about our misunderstandings of nature as a society. My dad is smart, caring, and a good guy, he just didn't know any better (we're planting mulberry trees and he wanted to get rid of the broam sod so the trees have a chance to grow and not get overrun by the broam grass). He felt bad, but it already is done.
Ok, that's a lot and no one will probably read it, but that's I needed to unload all that info as therapy
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: Hiraeth]
#26645425 - 05/03/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushrooms Do Not "Soak Up" Contamination Present In The Substrate. If He Didn't Directly Spray The Mushrooms, They Are Fine.
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: MpSeph]
#26645622 - 05/03/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Actually, mushrooms are very good accumulators of heavy metals. Metals vary from species to species. Do not consume mushrooms from contaminated areas. How much glyphosate mushrooms accumulate I do not know, but I wouldn't touch them.
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Yeah, I Know About The Metals, When I Said "Contamination" I Was Referring To Pesticides & Other Chemicals That Are Sprayed By People.
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: MpSeph]
#26645783 - 05/03/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Check Out RR's Notes & Pics On Cultivating P.Cubensis. If Mushrooms "Soaked Up" Contamination From The Substrate He Would've Had Shrooms That Tasted Like Bra Sweat, Paper, Ink, etc..
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: MpSeph]
#26645794 - 05/03/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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No. Plants accumulate glyphosate. It doesn't mean your bread taste like glyphosate because the wheat does. Cubensis doesn't taste like shit either, but get all the nutrients from dung. All the atoms in it was in the cow shit just a few weeks earlier. Except from the water.
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Various species, degrade and accumulate chemicals and metals. I think it could be safely assumed that this applies to more species and contaminants than just what was covered in the article below. I read a similar article where turkey tails were used to remediate and accumulate PCEs and TCEs.
“Mushroom as a product and their role in mycoremediation” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4052754/pdf/s13568-014-0029-8.pdf
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Exactly. Wouldn't want to eat those turkey tails! Several species of mushrooms are used that way. Different species for different chemicals.
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15375078
RR Has Always Said, If A Mushroom Grows, It Is Fine To Eat. Cigarette Butts Contain Hella Toxins But Healthy People Experience No Effects From Eating Shrooms Grown On Them.
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Re: ID W Nebraska [Re: MpSeph]
#26646146 - 05/03/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just because someone says something it doesn't mean it's right. No, you shouldn't eat any mushrooms that grows. They can contain toxic chemicals far over the maximum limits. You probably won't get sick eating one mushroom from Chernobyl. Eating several on a daily basis will get you sick. Mushrooms there are full of caesium-137 and strontium-90. Would you eat those? Reindeers in Norway has a high amount of these isotops because they eat lichen which has accumulated them from the soil. Mushrooms in Norway has generally a lot of these isotops in them, especially where most of the fallout from the Chernobyl accident ended up. All "soaked up from the ground", as you call it. But of course much less than in Chernobyl itself.
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https://www.resilience.org/stories/2019-04-08/mushrooms-clean-up-our-toxic-messes/
Read this. It's about cleaning up toxic soil with oyster mushrooms. The mushrooms are "soaking" up the petroleum in the ground. Those oysters aren't edible anymore. But they grow.
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