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......where's the love now?
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......where's the love now? 
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I will never ignore somebody no matter how much they make me want to push my fingers into my eyeballs until they explode....
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Wtf lol cant all thanatos10s just get along?
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Re: @Thanatos10 [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: The summit of ignoring people is reducing everything around you to a figment of your imagination.
I mean...if you canāt verify people exist then wouldnāt it be logical to assume they donāt?
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I still love thanatos. Our bond cannot be broken
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What if there is ample evidence to designate them not a human? Or you already know what they are going to say before they say it?
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I only ignore the users with porn avatars cuz i think it is gauche
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I think censorship is terrible in most cases because the people who wield the power are not using it correctly.
I have over 50 ignores, not because I don't want to hear contradictory opinions, I enjoy them. But if someone has established themself as unopen to discussion and only repeats destructive ideology or consistently disrupts meaningful discussion they deserve to be banned. I still argue with people I don't agree with, and listen to people I don't like.
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Re: @Thanatos10 [Re: 1234go]
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It's not my fault people don't have a solid argument against solipsism. Attacking the premises doesn't invalidate the argument.
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I have an argument against solipsism. Language
How do you acquire new information and where does it come from? And if everything is just a reference point to something else then how is it we were able to experience things for "the first time" in life. I.e. "first words", where did those words come from, how do you know what they meant and what gave those words meaning to you. If your first words had no meaning and you were just mimicking sounds, over time you began to establish meaning for those sounds. How did you come to the conclusion that certain sounds mean certain things?
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... and so Thanatos hijacked the thread with his solipsism. It is like the plague, or coronavirus this thing.
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Re: @Thanatos10 [Re: Envix]
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Envix said: I have an argument against solipsism. Language
How do you acquire new information and where does it come from? And if everything is just a reference point to something else then how is it we were able to experience things for "the first time" in life. I.e. "first words", where did those words come from, how do you know what they meant and what gave those words meaning to you. If your first words had no meaning and you were just mimicking sounds, over time you began to establish meaning for those sounds. How did you come to the conclusion that certain sounds mean certain things?
Language isn't a conclusive argument against solipsism because even though Wittgenstein makes that argument that a private language is silly it's still not a conclusive point against it. A private language can still exist and it doesn't make the existence of other people any more likely.
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Okay I'll go with you on the private language bit. But it doesnt answer my main question. The purpose of language is to assign and decypher meaning. A coding process. But in order to assign and decode value or meaning, it has to be assimilated. You are the receiver, but an augmentation of information occurs between the stimulus and the target.
My question is; that augmentation can only be possible if there is a divergence in the transmition, and mistranslation results from pretty much every conversation you have with a perceived other, to varying degrees. This suggest that your private language cant be used to accurately determine anything, let alone everything. We each grow up in our own private language box, which is built on our perception of what we assume is the "universal language box" when reality it is indeed just our private language box.
"Lost in translation" is an accurate way to describe this happening. If there were true solipsism then there WOULDNT be such miscommunication and chaos in language. The fact that we CANNOT understand each other is valid evidence to the notion that there are unknown vantage points we cannot currently know, and probably never will. Those vantage points existing in other places in time and space, perhaps even another universe, those which you perceive as "other people"
Paradoxically, our "aloneness" could actually hold the key to the notion that we are not alone
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Envix said: Okay I'll go with you on the private language bit. But it doesnt answer my main question. The purpose of language is to assign and decypher meaning. A coding process. But in order to assign and decode value or meaning, it has to be assimilated. You are the receiver, but an augmentation of information occurs between the stimulus and the target.
My question is; that augmentation can only be possible if there is a divergence in the transmition, and mistranslation results from pretty much every conversation you have with a perceived other, to varying degrees. This suggest that your private language cant be used to accurately determine anything, let alone everything. We each grow up in our own private language box, which is built on our perception of what we assume is the "universal language box" when reality it is indeed just our private language box.
"Lost in translation" is an accurate way to describe this happening. If there were true solipsism then there WOULDNT be such miscommunication and chaos in language. The fact that we CANNOT understand each other is valid evidence to the notion that there are unknown vantage points we cannot currently know, and probably never will. Those vantage points existing in other places in time and space, perhaps even another universe, those which you perceive as "other people"
Paradoxically, our "aloneness" could actually hold the key to the notion that we are not alone
But then the solipsist would argue that they donāt need to understand other ālanguagesā since the subconscious locks away much of that knowledge to create the appearance of not knowing things. In a sense itās like self hobbling almost. Again you are assuming the existence of others when they canāt be verified. In the case of language itās your subconscious thatās holding back information from. You about āother languagesā.
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Unlike coronavirus, Chloroquine DOES cure solipsism.
All you could do with solipsism is argue with an unprovable premise with that Lone God nonsense
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Personally i think solipsism is real and its just on a loop forever. We born and we die, at different points in time and space, over and over. We think we see and perceive other people but its just me in another timeline
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What if there is ample evidence to designate them not a human? Or you already know what they are going to say before they say it?
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Re: @Thanatos10 [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Its over your head because you only see your own point of view.
Or maybe because it is nonsense based on little more than the ravings of people on drugs
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Re: @Thanatos10 [Re: Envix]
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Envix said: Personally i think solipsism is real and its just on a loop forever. We born and we die, at different points in time and space, over and over. We think we see and perceive other people but its just me in another timeline
I believe essentially the same. All Is One, You Are That. Everything has consciousness and its all you, but you at the most you is the multiverse entirely.
I've asked God and he says its so, that His experience is entirely internal, entirely cyclical and neverending. He says that that he encompasses all that can be encompassed in his realm and that it thus might be there is more than that, but also that nowhere in eternity that other reality is encountered, so in effect God encompasses all and nothing external intersects with it.
He does insist its all you and that being a God is anything but the claustrophobia of nihilist solipsism.
"Being everything forever is enough. It is ecstatic." He insists.
And that's all YOU, you're evolving up to becoming the Multiverse and after that, fragment yourself into a zillion pieces and start over, quite happy with it all. "Because I can fragment myself from the highest back to the lowest I have infinite growth potential. Unity shattering into Duality, too, is a step forward, so the cycle is nothing but an upward spiral even though its all cast in stone, on my level. "
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Re: @Thanatos10 [Re: Envix]
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You know you can hide an avatar without ignoring the person, right?
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I guess I just have a deeper understanding of what it means to love someone. Trust me when I say - I still love Thanatos, too.
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Sometimes when you love someone you have to let them go..
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You know you can hide an avatar without ignoring the person, right?
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I guess I just have a deeper understanding of what it means to love someone. Trust me when I say - I still love Thanatos, too.
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Letting Thanatos10 go is not an option.
Smack him facefirst into rock bottom so he can start the journey back up yes, but never give up.
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Asante said: Letting Thanatos10 go is not an option.
Smack him facefirst into rock bottom so he can start the journey back up yes, but never give up.
Dammit, you're right...the ignore is only temporary, but I needed to do it. My head was starting to hurt.
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I believe essentially the same. All Is One, You Are That. Everything has consciousness and its all you, but you at the most you is the multiverse entirely.
I've asked God and he says its so, that His experience is entirely internal, entirely cyclical and neverending. He says that that he encompasses all that can be encompassed in his realm and that it thus might be there is more than that, but also that nowhere in eternity that other reality is encountered, so in effect God encompasses all and nothing external intersects with it.
He does insist its all you and that being a God is anything but the claustrophobia of nihilist solipsism.
"Being everything forever is enough. It is ecstatic." He insists.
And that's all YOU, you're evolving up to becoming the Multiverse and after that, fragment yourself into a zillion pieces and start over, quite happy with it all. "Because I can fragment myself from the highest back to the lowest I have infinite growth potential. Unity shattering into Duality, too, is a step forward, so the cycle is nothing but an upward spiral even though its all cast in stone, on my level. "
So all you have is a made up story with no evidence?
All you are is a body, not God. Also such a being would be wrong in that being God is utterly boring, not ecstatic.
Also you donāt have infinite potential for growth, if you are everything then you are essentially stagnant.
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I imagine god as a perfectly balanced paradox. It cant be explained. It just is
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All I've got is a different brand of bullshit than your bullshit.
My bullshit makes me happy and propels me through the bad times to keep on being a point of light for those around me, so they say.
Your bullshit depresses you, saps your strength and has you cast shade on those around you, with your own foul mood as the epicenter.
Two interpretations of solipsism, two completely different outcomes.
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If you love someone you have to let them go if they come back to you it was meant to be if they don't hunt them down and kill them!
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Another person just ignored me by the way, but I can't tell who it is because I unignored all the people that have been MIA for ten years thanks to you!
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I tried to tell you that was a dead end road, and unnecessary. Now look atcha'self...

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Asante said: All I've got is a different brand of bullshit than your bullshit.
My bullshit makes me happy and propels me through the bad times to keep on being a point of light for those around me, so they say.
Your bullshit depresses you, saps your strength and has you cast shade on those around you, with your own foul mood as the epicenter.
Two interpretations of solipsism, two completely different outcomes.
By your definition there are no others then. You keep misunderstand solipsism, you canāt believe in it and cite āothersā. Your entire āstoryā is contradictory and not even grounded in reality. Itās making a positive claim that it canāt prove.
Solipsism says we canāt know for sure if other people exist or if there is an external reality. Itās not the same are what you are saying.
I donāt want to believe in solipsism, but thereās nothing that definitively proves it to be false. What you preach is bullshit, what I preach is a very real philosophical issue about the limits of our knowledge.
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So you think we are a brain in a jar? Virtual reality sims matrix type deal?
Edit: even if that is the case I still stand by my previous statements on the matter.....if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it then who fucking cares.
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Edit: even if that is the case I still stand by my previous statements on the matter.....if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it then who fucking cares.
Your previous statements donāt hold on this problem. Itās not a matter of a tree falling and whether it makes a sound, itās a matter of whether there is a tree or anything else really.
Also Astanteās views still lead to nihilism in the end.
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No they don't. That's just you saying that you have an opinion and trying to write it off as someone else's.
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But do you believe in, life after love? after love after love....
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I think in some way it's possible that our existences are isolated temporal events but it wouldn't make any of us not real, but more like an afterimage. Like maybe one of us only truly exists at a time but from our own perspective that is us in the now. Kind of trying to answer the question as to how we could all be literally or just an aspect of god. Everything all at once or just one thing now, observing everything like slides under a microscope but you're reading parts of a bigger story that go together. If that makes sense. We're all real and we exist together but there's only one I at a time which is in essence our own personal divinity.
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I still say who fucking cares? If you can see the tree cool if you cant see the tree cool. You still get to SEE wherever you are.
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omg, enough about the damn trees...
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You just gotta think like a tree thanatos10
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I like thanny, but I just want to discuss something else with him and everyone here - any besides the one thing that has no proof and cannot be disproved since it has no proof to begin with.
So. Thanatos10 - pick a subject or topic, one you love or like a lot. And let the love fest begin again.
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So. Thanatos10 - pick a subject or topic, one you love or like a lot. And let the love fest begin again.
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Do you like trees?
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The universe is beyond proof and disprove, so is everything if one tries to quantify something absolutely and with ultimate certainty. One day in a future unimaginable to us, nothing will be as it as now. Everything in the universe will have changed, and no one will likely be aro7nd to witness it. Making all our lives pretty special and ultimately meaningless - but to me thatās a good thing because it means a certain freedom.
So letās fix the record, get it off that repeating skipping noise, and continue singing our songs.
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It's possible. 
Have you heard of the one electron theory? It's been pretty contested but my idea is kind of like that. Which could be perceived as fairly interesting considering an electric current is the closest thing we have to consciousness being that all these meats are worthless without it. Quantum superposition.
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Assuming there is a āwhereā. Whether stuff exists or not really does matter.
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The Blind Ass said: The universe is beyond proof and disprove, so is everything if one tries to quantify something absolutely and with ultimate certainty. One day in a future unimaginable to us, nothing will be as it as now. Everything in the universe will have changed, and no one will likely be aro7nd to witness it. Making all our lives pretty special and ultimately meaningless - but to me thatās a good thing because it means a certain freedom.
So letās fix the record, get it off that repeating skipping noise, and continue singing our songs.
Perhaps a little random but a recent study found that throughout the universe things that we consider fundamental laws and constants might not just be different but actually change in isolated instances. I think it was Planck's constant for instance that has probably actually changed since we started observing it. Different galaxies having different properties, a galaxy far far away. Lol.
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it does not. Be grateful that you even exist.
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No, but I like the sound of it, and what you're puttin' down in this thread.
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It's possible. 
Have you heard of the one electron theory? It's been pretty contested but my idea is kind of like that. Which could be perceived as fairly interesting considering an electric current is the closest thing we have to consciousness being that all these meats are worthless without it. Quantum superposition.
Automatically fails as you are trying to apply quantum mechanics to macro particles.
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Iām not. Everyone knows quantum principles fail when applied to macro molecules
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Pshaw, yeah, like c'mon people! EVERYONE know this!
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Nobody even knows what anything is made up of. Nobody knows anything. Now come down off that high horse and be happy damn it
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Trex is the primordia materia?
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Hahaha no thanatos10. I'm trying to reason him into happiness
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Or just ask the high horse to share his stash - that way thanny can be happy too
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Or at least pull me up on that horse with you :p something, anything! Just have a better outlook on life man <3
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If weāre all in the same simulation do we all exist? A tree almost fell on me in the woods the other day. A brothaās got to be careful in the woods after heavy rain.
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We all exist except for Thanatos. He was programmed into the simulation to encourage us to question our existence, and help us grow. Thank God for Thanatos. 
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Mmm yes yes this makes sense. You guys all seem to know this Thanatos so I will consider it fact. I wonder what his programming is once heās exposed?
Thanks! I got my leg broken by a falling tree once when I was 12, it sucked bad and it definitely made a sound.
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Damn, you almost died twice by tree? That's wild...be careful out there.
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Thanks! I got my leg broken by a falling tree once when I was 12, it sucked bad and it definitely made a sound.
That isnt the trees fault that is your legs fault :p
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Duuude that first encounter was seriously next level matrix type shit. I heard my friends scream and I turned to look, saw this tree coming towards my face and I ducked right, it grazed the back of my neck and shoulder and then got my leg that was too slow. I saw it coming in slow motion and thought for sure I was going to have a smashed in face.
We were out in the woods tree tipping of course and these fuckers were working on a tree while I was pulling another out of our dirt bike path. Someone somewhere wasnāt paying attention but since I got hurt Iāll blame them it was the friendsā fault.
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Lmao I was just fucking with you that sounds horrible
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I gotta agree with spirit. You shouldn't have been standin' there. You're one lucky devil!
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Torei Zenjiās Bodhisattva Vow
Disciples, When I humbly observe the true nature of things, all are the marvelous manifestations of the Tathagataās truth. Atom by atom, instant by instant, all are none other than itās mysterious radiance. Because of this our virtuous ancestors extended loving care and reverence to even such beings as birds and beasts. How, then, can we be but humbly grateful for the food, drink and clothing that nourishes and protects us throughout the day, these being in essence the warm skin and flesh of the our great ancestors, the incarnate compassion of the Buddha?
If it is so even with inanimate objects, how much more should we be kind and merciful to human beings, even those who are foolish. Though they may become our sworn enemies, reviling and persecuting us, we should regard them as Bodhisattva manifestations who, in their great compassion, are employing skillful means to help emancipate us from the sinful karma we have produced over countless kalpas through our biased, self-centered views.
If we awaken in ourselves this deep, pure faith, offering humble words and taking sincere refuge in the Buddha, then with every thought there will bloom a lotus flower, each with a Buddha. These Buddhas will establish Pure Lands everywhere and reveal the radiance of the Tathagata beneath our very feet. May we extend this mind throughout the universe, so that we and all sentient beings may equally bring to fruition the Seeds of Wisdom
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Whoa I was expecting a hair band when I saw the picture at video start. They sound more like a soft core AIC or Pearl Jam or some kind of mix. I despise hair bands. I canāt believe the popularity of AC/DC. I always expected the lead singer to look like an even more cretinous version of Gilbert gottfried mixed with Curtis Armstrong. And now that I looked him up (first visual I can remember at 33yo) he fits the fuggin bill. What a creeper especially back in the day. I donāt trust anyone with a layer of chest hair like that.
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I heard Motƶrhead referred to as a hair band 
You can't just clssify any non-skinhead band a hair band.
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Whaaat!? AC/DC seems so hair bandish though. Motƶrhead, definitely not a hair band.
What are the qualifications? I assume long hair is somewhat part of it but mostly how I categorize hair bands is by the awful sound of the vocals. Anyone doing that kind of shrill scream that I donāt like I just lump in as a hair band. Iām ignorant like that sometimes.
I think Not to touch the earth by The Doors is a grand ol song. Some versions better than others obvi.
Heroin by Lou Reed    great
Sorry about getting off topic of Thanatos. I hope no one feels violated or whatever I just get face diarrhea sometimes
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Glam, and poppy metal. Look for makeup, skintight/flashy-eccentric clothing, and fashion accessories like headbands/bandannas.

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Long haired trends in the 60s/70s gave way to Hair Rock.
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Ooo.
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