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2g experience - Something went wrong
    #26635988 - 04/29/20 04:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hi there! I wanted to share with you my experience.

About two weeks ago, had my first experience with shrooms. Started low, 1, 5g, to have a soft intoduction. After boiling a cup, put 3g of whole shrooms in. Left them in for 10 min and then brank the water and eat them with a friend of mine. About 20 min later, we were fealing our bodys ligh and had an uplifting, loving experience. Nothing extream, just as i was expected it to be.

After a week, went for a second trip with the same friend and two more. We made 2 cups of tea with 8g. Cut them in small pieces and soak them with a bag of tea, for 20 min. Each of us drank half cup. Things were not as i expected. After 20 min, felt a drawback, my body got heavy, my chest was like you put something heavy on, my jaw was feeling locked and my pulse started to go fast up and down. No visuals at all, feeling anxious, nothing upilifting. It was only phisical, not mental. Always had my consiousness, knowledge of what was hapenning and just waiting for it to finally stop. All of us had the same experience. Settings was the same, mood was the same.

My guess is that the tea, staying for 20 min in the water, plus the coffe we had drank 30 min earlier, gave that over stimulating effect. Is there a possibility of bunk shrooms?

Shrooms were, Puerto Rico, from the same unmodified tub, crack dried. Brf cakes then to tub with coco coir and verm. The only deference was that, shrooms from the first trip were from the first flush (more bluish when dried) while  shrooms from the second trip was a mix of first and second flush (almost white when dried).

Any ideas what went wrong? Any advice? I am kind of scared to go on.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Arizzz]
    #26635998 - 04/29/20 04:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think the tea and coffee played a role here with the increase in anxiety and uncomfortable feeling. I had similar effects with a much lighter dose and tea and coffee. I would recommend you take the doses a bit more gradually like during 5-10mins if the fast comeup feels bad. Then orior to dosing try to get comfortable and let your mind relax and be prepared for the trip.
And dont be scared. Once the comeup is over and you know what it is like at that dose you will enjoy it.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Arizzz] * 5
    #26636042 - 04/29/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Shrooms are pretty random in their effects.  No one trip is ever the same.  Just the way it is.  The dosage, set and setting is never exactly the same, no matter how much you try and duplicate it from one time to the next.

What you were expecting just isn't the way psychedelics behave when interacting with the human neuro-biology.  Nothing went wrong.  You just need to change your expectations.  The psychedelic experience (no matter the molecule involved) is far more random than repeatable.  Anyone that tells you differently is leading you astray.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Arizzz]
    #26636092 - 04/29/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You never know what you are going to get from mushrooms, especially from multi-spore grows; you can get huge variances in potency within the same flush.

It does sound li,e the mushrooms from the first flush were potent; blue bruising happens when psilocin oxidises. The fact there was no or little blueing of the second flush would suggest they were weaker.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Arizzz]
    #26636109 - 04/29/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Shrooms are pretty random in their effects.  No one trip is ever the same.  Just the way it is.  The dosage, set and setting is never exactly the same, no matter how much you try and duplicate it from one time to the next.




This right here. I've only tripped hard a handful of times, but they were each different in intensity, duration, and clarity of focus/thought, etc.

It sounds like a potential increase in caffeine uptake soon to lift off could have offset your trajectory a tad, OP?


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26636121 - 04/29/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, should have also said, OP, I have noticed similar effects after drinking caffeine before tripping.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26636123 - 04/29/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Caffeine is a subtle son of a bitch. You don't realize it when straight. It will dehydrate you slowly and make you think you're hungry, when you're actually thirsty AF.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26636144 - 04/29/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the advices!

The truth is that the consumption of shrooms at the first trip was slower. Took us about 15 min. So the feeling of comeup was smoother! At the second trip we consumed them all at once! So the feeling of comeup was very rapid!

The overall feeling was like we had the 'come up' without then proceeding into the blissful trip, no trip at all. Just like Loaded Shaman putted it, offset trajectory.

Thank again for your advices, I wont give up.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26636171 - 04/29/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Caffeine is a subtle son of a bitch. You don't realize it when straight. It will dehydrate you slowly and make you think you're hungry, when you're actually thirsty AF.



So damn true.

And that effect when tripping potentially causes all kinds of difficulties


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26636325 - 04/29/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I love coffee while tripping lol


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26636911 - 04/29/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lockjaw and rubber legs are two of them most terrifying body highs that i get. I don't get them often, but when I do it sucks terribly. Makes you feel stuck in a body that doesn't work (this is also why I fear older age).

But I've had similar trips amount to nothing on the sames doses that had me looking at my dick like I was an alien from another planet. It's a gamble man. Always will be. Even with cloned genetics you'll still get some trips heavier than others.

2g is still a fairly small amount though. I'm not sure if I'm considered 'experienced' yet. But I have taken mushrooms a ton and have learned ton of grounding methods and ways to talk to myself on not freaking out even in the worse of cases. But 2g to me is a pretty mild high. Slight visuals with a nice headspace - still functional and can probably go about my day.

4/4.5g is where my sweet spot is. I really don't like not tripping hard. If I'm going to take them, I want the wave to pour upon me. I didn't drive to the beach.. with my fancy swim shorts to lay on the sand. I want the FUCKING WAVE.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Arizzz]
    #26637028 - 04/29/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Arizzz said:
Hi there! I wanted to share with you my experience.

About two weeks ago, had my first experience with shrooms. Started low, 1, 5g, to have a soft intoduction. After boiling a cup, put 3g of whole shrooms in. Left them in for 10 min and then brank the water and eat them with a friend of mine. About 20 min later, we were fealing our bodys ligh and had an uplifting, loving experience. Nothing extream, just as i was expected it to be.

After a week, went for a second trip with the same friend and two more. We made 2 cups of tea with 8g. Cut them in small pieces and soak them with a bag of tea, for 20 min. Each of us drank half cup. Things were not as i expected. After 20 min, felt a drawback, my body got heavy, my chest was like you put something heavy on, my jaw was feeling locked and my pulse started to go fast up and down. No visuals at all, feeling anxious, nothing upilifting. It was only phisical, not mental. Always had my consiousness, knowledge of what was hapenning and just waiting for it to finally stop. All of us had the same experience. Settings was the same, mood was the same.

My guess is that the tea, staying for 20 min in the water, plus the coffe we had drank 30 min earlier, gave that over stimulating effect. Is there a possibility of bunk shrooms?

Shrooms were, Puerto Rico, from the same unmodified tub, crack dried. Brf cakes then to tub with coco coir and verm. The only deference was that, shrooms from the first trip were from the first flush (more bluish when dried) while  shrooms from the second trip was a mix of first and second flush (almost white when dried).

Any ideas what went wrong? Any advice? I am kind of scared to go on.




Possibly the coffee and tea.    Or the preparation.  Soak is awfully long, better to boil them for a few minutes on the stove and steep for 5 or so.

That or you've all just experienced the dreaded "in-between zone" - not enough to trip properly (no visuals for example, always a sure sign of proper dosage) but too much to just shrug it off.  Like having an itch that you just can't scratch.

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It does sound li,e the mushrooms from the first flush were potent; blue bruising happens when psilocin oxidises. The fact there was no or little blueing of the second flush would suggest they were weaker.





IME this is a mostly spurious correlation, it's not psilocin oxidizing.  Some of the most potent shrooms I've ever grown showed no bluing at all, and conversely more ordinary potency has exhibited extreme and near instant bluing, to the point of appearing almost black...  :cookiemonster:


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Arizzz]
    #26637498 - 04/29/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I concur with all of the above advice. And to reiterate the point Nature Boy made, trips can vary wildly.

No need for me to really echo the sentiments of everyone above bu I wanted to address your last point

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Arizzz said:
I am kind of scared to go on.




Mushrooms aren’t for everyone. I heard their calling but none of my friends did (so I do em all alone :hehehe: but I have this wonderful community to connect with).

You have to decide if mushrooms are for you. That comes with the acceptance that bad trips, sad trips, mad trips, hard trips, hell trips, etc will occur. If you are willing to risk those experiences (Which often can be very rewarding) then mushrooms will show you heaven and hell.

Plus, most of us take breaks. Sometimes it’s due to a proper trip giving us what we need. Other times it’s because we got the shit scared out of us. But we always come back. Maybe take a break for a little while and come back to it when you feel ready again.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26637931 - 04/29/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A break is never a bad move. The mushrooms are always pleased to welcome you back, often with a very pleasant “look what you’ve been missing” kind of trip :dancer:


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26638806 - 04/30/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the support and the advices!!
I will continue my new journey without expectations and with more respect!
I am proud to be member to such an amazing community!
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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26638933 - 04/30/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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I concur with all of the above advice. And to reiterate the point Nature Boy made, trips can vary wildly.

No need for me to really echo the sentiments of everyone above bu I wanted to address your last point

Quote:

Arizzz said:
I am kind of scared to go on.




Mushrooms aren’t for everyone. I heard their calling but none of my friends did (so I do em all alone :hehehe: but I have this wonderful community to connect with).

You have to decide if mushrooms are for you. That comes with the acceptance that bad trips, sad trips, mad trips, hard trips, hell trips, etc will occur. If you are willing to risk those experiences (Which often can be very rewarding) then mushrooms will show you heaven and hell.

Plus, most of us take breaks. Sometimes it’s due to a proper trip giving us what we need. Other times it’s because we got the shit scared out of us. But we always come back. Maybe take a break for a little while and come back to it when you feel ready again.



Absolutely. Hit it on the head. Most of us do indeed take breaks.. some longer than others. And I feel like the ones that need the breaks are the ones getting the most out of them. Gives you the space to integrate.


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26641121 - 05/01/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Really like your quote


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26644981 - 05/03/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Me too. Given that LSD (not the drug in question here but it's still a psychedelic) is quite stimulating and energizing on its own, caffeine is just unnecessary. More than just unnecessary, it's also unwise to drink because it's a stimulant that can result in a jittery and anxious feeling that gives way to thought loops when mixed with a psychedelic drug. I drank some before a 100ug acid trip and found it leaving me restless and impatient. I can imagine that a larger dose could have made things even worse. OP (and everyone, really) should avoid taking stimulants before tripping. Actually, now that I think of it, I've heard great things about mixing with MDMA (a stimulant) with LSD (a psychedelic), does anyone with experience care to explain to me how it feels as a pairing? Keep in mind that I haven't tried MDMA.


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    #26644997 - 05/03/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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SonicTitan said:
I love coffee while tripping lol




I love "stoner speedballing"; :coffee: + :bongload: = :sunny:


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Re: 2g experience - Something went wrong [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26645488 - 05/03/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's my morning routine lol


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