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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineStoneWood
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Looking for Guidance on the 'Presence'
    #26645383 - 05/03/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I am a professional in Australia. Well educated etc. I’ve tripped maybe 15-20 times now in a space of six months.. I have given it a good go. During my experiences I have seen a lot of repetitiveness in my experience during the trip. There are similarities each time, the earth breathes and at times geometric shapes start rising up. Not to mention the warping of objects. In addition, I was able to extend my way of thinking which is advantageous to my career. Sometimes none of these as well..

What I want to discuss though is the ‘presence’ which keeps turning up while at home & not out. It is in the air, moves and has shapes. It is intelligent and repetitive. It communicates to me without words. This occurs over and over again on around 4 gram lemon tek sessions. Can be from 3 gram up as well just less of an image. Over 5 grams I go straight to the aliens lol.

What I am really looking for is someone who I can talk through my experiences and relate too. I am looking for someone who has had similar experiences and is available to video call to discuss?


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Re: Looking for Guidance on the 'Presence' [Re: StoneWood] * 1
    #26645435 - 05/03/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Those Non corporeal energy entity like apparitions that use ones own mirror neurons to communicate?  Yeah, I don’t think my descriptor does it justice, but what about them?  Anything is potentially experientially possible within the realm of big mind.  Do I believe it has a self intrinsic existence independent of my brain, unlikely - but that the phenomena can be experienced is real, even if it’s nature is your own but expressed as noumena due to the power of the brain and psychedelics.  I assume it’s the brain talking to itself in a strange way due to the induced state it’s in. 

The book “Hallucinations” by Dr. Oliver Sacks provides examples and explanations from a neurological perspective on just such things as to their causes and meaning.

That’s my safe bet.  Hbu?


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Re: Looking for Guidance on the 'Presence' [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26645652 - 05/03/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You sound like an informative guy. I watched Oliver Sacks Ted Talk. I'll send you a PM, let's chat.


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Re: Looking for Guidance on the 'Presence' [Re: StoneWood]
    #26646346 - 05/03/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The phenomenology of entities is real; whether they exist outside of the mind is something to be carefully agnostic about.

The experience of entities outside of psychedelic experiences, I.e. in the paranormal sense, is also phenomenologically real for those experiencing it. It is real for the person. Is it real outside of their own experience?

I have thoughts and opinions on this that do not follow general consensus. As a rule, I do not fixate I’m entities in psychedelic experiences and I do not find the topic very interesting, outside of siecuiarion about their potential archetypal significance.


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Re: Looking for Guidance on the 'Presence' [Re: CountHTML]
    #26646719 - 05/03/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The Presence is there as an enchantment to help you break free of the Futurence and the Pastence.

it is not separate from you, so you really want to know yourself.


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Re: Looking for Guidance on the 'Presence' [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26646770 - 05/03/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
The Presence is there as an enchantment to help you break free of the Futurence and the Pastence.

it is not separate from you, so you really want to know yourself.




Certainly Not anymore separate from oneself  than the characters from ones’ own dream last night -  that’s for sure.  Considering that it’s  Just you in your head - ie. There can be nothing in ones own mind other than ones own nature, so anything that appears in it - no matter what it displays as , nothing excluded everything included, is just an expression of minds nature.  So to speak.


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