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There are three planes of reality, hear me out
Plane 1: The finite. Objective reality. The reality that can be physically interacted with. Plane 2: The infinite. Consciousness. The metaphysical reality. All that can be thought up, imagined, felt, etc. The intangible. Plane 3:The void. Nothingness, non-existence. Where we were before we were conceived, and where we were when we die.
All moments that have passed, belong to the third plane. They no longer exist. They can exist as memories, but memories are simply personal manifestations of our experiences and they exist in the second plane. They do not constitute as a legitimate replacement or reincarnation of the moment. The finite reality can only exist within the moment. The objective moment.
The second plane cannot exist without the first plane, but that does not mean that the first plane is infinite as well, only that it gave birth to another infinite plane. Or, one could argue, that they gave birth to each other, but that's a different discussion.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Near Dylan] 2
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dylan's lost it guys, call the white coat people.
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I think you just solved a major mystery of the Universe. I. Am. Astounded.

It makes perfect sense to me.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory that makes Perfect Sense) [Re: The Blind Ass]
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Triceratops, Triangles, Trichoderma, Triplets! Trimeter, Trifocal? TriPOD! THREESUMS! Pi is THREE.OneFour 
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory that makes Perfect Sense) [Re: Near Dylan] 1
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory that makes Perfect Sense) [Re: madmodder]
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There is no such thing as nonexistence. The act of thinking of nothing makes it something. Our state of nonexistence is just as much a part of this world as us alive. The energy is and information is always there. Our consciousness makes us feel we are apart from everything and always have been separate but we are the whole thing acting out in a particular way.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Near Dylan] 1
#26645575 - 05/03/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: There are three planes of reality, hear me out
Plane 1: The finite. Objective reality. The reality that can be physically interacted with. Plane 2: The infinite. Consciousness. The metaphysical reality. All that can be thought up, imagined, felt, etc. The intangible. Plane 3:The void. Nothingness, non-existence. Where we were before we were conceived, and where we were when we die.
All moments that have passed, belong to the third plane. They no longer exist. They can exist as memories, but memories are simply personal manifestations of our experiences and they exist in the second plane. They do not constitute as a legitimate replacement or reincarnation of the moment. The finite reality can only exist within the moment. The objective moment.
The second plane cannot exist without the first plane, but that does not mean that the first plane is infinite as well, only that it gave birth to another infinite plane. Or, one could argue, that they gave birth to each other, but that's a different discussion.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Near Dylan] 1
#26645584 - 05/03/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: There are three planes of reality, hear me out
Plane 1: The finite. Objective reality. The reality that can be physically interacted with. Plane 2: The infinite. Consciousness. The metaphysical reality. All that can be thought up, imagined, felt, etc. The intangible. Plane 3:The void. Nothingness, non-existence. Where we were before we were conceived, and where we were when we die.
All moments that have passed, belong to the third plane. They no longer exist. They can exist as memories, but memories are simply personal manifestations of our experiences and they exist in the second plane. They do not constitute as a legitimate replacement or reincarnation of the moment. The finite reality can only exist within the moment. The objective moment.
The second plane cannot exist without the first plane, but that does not mean that the first plane is infinite as well, only that it gave birth to another infinite plane. Or, one could argue, that they gave birth to each other, but that's a different discussion.
What are your thoughts
I think it’s a cool way of looking at the big everything. Nice.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan's Boofed Shroomz Theory) [Re: madmodder] 1
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26645823 - 05/03/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I think you just solved a major mystery of the Universe. I. Am. Astounded.

It makes perfect sense to me.
In life, we travelled thru ALL THREE PLANES. IS THIS THE TRINITY?! 3D. 2020 Here We Go. 
If far more likely that someone needs to tone down the drugs for a little while. This doesn't "solve" anything and it assumes three planes exist to begin with.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Thanatos10] 1
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This is pretty rational and straight forward shit as far as philosophy goes. This isn't some abstract acid idea.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Near Dylan] 1
#26645871 - 05/03/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a new level of respect for you Near Dylan. Well done man. That was one of the best posts you've ever made. Honestly.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Near Dylan]
#26645873 - 05/03/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: This is pretty rational and straight forward shit as far as philosophy goes. This isn't some abstract acid idea.
Except it isn't, it's just a bunch of assumptions without any logic or evidence to back them. Especially the metaphysical or "infinite", consciousness is most certainly not infinite and we can't really be sure there is such a thing as "nothing".
So really you only end up with the 1, and even that is dubious too.
Sounds less like philosophy and more like an acid trip.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Thanatos10]
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Is Creativity not limitless? Are dreams not Creative? (non-Prophetic ones of course). You're like the first Shroomerite to mention Solipism, at least as I can remember, does that not show the Creativity of Humans is unbounded?
Consciousness is infinite in nature because it has no limit. It can keep expanding forever given enough time.
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Is every individual's subjective reality also the objective reality, then?
We can't be sure there is such thing as nothing so that means don't even theorize about it? What do you wanna occam's razor off every single thing that we can't be sure about? Every philosophy book is just full of pointless "assumptions" then.
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#26645953 - 05/03/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Including Solipism, which is part of it as well. If sensation-processing information cannot be trusted, then nothing can, thoughts included.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Near Dylan]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Is Creativity not limitless? Are dreams not Creative? (non-Prophetic ones of course). You're like the first Shroomerite to mention Solipism, at least as I can remember, does that not show the Creativity of Humans is unbounded?
Consciousness is infinite in nature because it has no limit. It can keep expanding forever given enough time.
Creativity isn’t limitless it’s just variations on a theme. Dreams aren’t creative either since they are based on previous experience. Solipsism isn’t creativity either and it’s not unbounded. It’s actually limited and rooted in the limits of our perception.
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We can't be sure there is such thing as nothing so that means don't even theorize about it? What do you wanna occam's razor off every single thing that we can't be sure about? Every philosophy book is just full of pointless "assumptions" then.
Assuming there are individuals and subjectivity to attribute to them. I can not verify that you exist or experience anything really. As for Occam’s razoring everything we can’t be sure about, Pyrrhonism did that to some extent. In sense you are right, every philosophy book is filled with assumptions that it can’t prove. Kind of shows how stupid it is in the end huh?
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If your argument is just that philosophizing is stupid then why are you even in this thread?
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Thanatos10]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Is Creativity not limitless? Are dreams not Creative? (non-Prophetic ones of course). You're like the first Shroomerite to mention Solipism, at least as I can remember, does that not show the Creativity of Humans is unbounded?
Consciousness is infinite in nature because it has no limit. It can keep expanding forever given enough time.
Creativity isn’t limitless it’s just variations on a theme. Dreams aren’t creative either since they are based on previous experience. Solipsism isn’t creativity either and it’s not unbounded. It’s actually limited and rooted in the limits of our perception.
Dreams may be based on experience, but the dream itself is unique onto itself. Each dream is unique to the person and their Personal experience. No two people will the exact same dream. That variation in the theme of dreams is limitless as there is an infinite ways to live life. Imagine a person who lives by themselves in the woods with zero interactions. Will they have the same dreams as you have? Of course not.
Solipsism was made with creativity because it takes a creative mind to think abstractly about reality and the basis of what is Real. Creative thinking created Solipsism just like Creative Thinking came up with Simulation Theory, Solipsism's High-Tech Brother.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Is Creativity not limitless? Are dreams not Creative? (non-Prophetic ones of course). You're like the first Shroomerite to mention Solipism, at least as I can remember, does that not show the Creativity of Humans is unbounded?
Consciousness is infinite in nature because it has no limit. It can keep expanding forever given enough time.
Creativity isn’t limitless it’s just variations on a theme. Dreams aren’t creative either since they are based on previous experience. Solipsism isn’t creativity either and it’s not unbounded. It’s actually limited and rooted in the limits of our perception.
Dreams may be based on experience, but the dream itself is unique onto itself. Each dream is unique to the person and their Personal experience. No two people will the exact same dream. That variation in the theme of dreams is limitless as there is an infinite ways to live life. Imagine a person who lives by themselves in the woods with zero interactions. Will they have the same dreams as you have? Of course not.
Solipsism was made with creativity because it takes a creative mind to think abstractly about reality and the basis of what is Real. Creative thinking created Solipsism just like Creative Thinking came up with Simulation Theory, Solipsism's High-Tech Brother. 
What a gross misunderstanding of solipsism. Creative thinking didn’t create solipsism, rather it’s reductive thinking since it cuts out A LOT of things
Also that just proves how limited dreams are since they are still based on experience, hence they are limited.
Creativity is limited to what is on hand and prior experience.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Thanatos10]
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That's ironic cause Solipism is a misunderstanding of reality because it cannot prove itself, so its self-canceling. All scientific evidence presented is nullified by the basic premise of Solipism.
If you move to a new country and start speaking a new language, that changes everything. You could do this the rest of your life, adding limitless creativity to your life and dreams. Is that not boundless? Do you think you could visit every city in the entire world if you tried (assuming you had the limitless money).
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: That's ironic cause Solipism is a misunderstanding of reality because it cannot prove itself, so its self-canceling. All scientific evidence presented is nullified by the basic premise of Solipism.
If you move to a new country and start speaking a new language, that changes everything. You could do this the rest of your life, adding limitless creativity to your life and dreams. Is that not boundless? Do you think you could visit every city in the entire world if you tried (assuming you had the limitless money).
It’s not self cancelling, if that were the case then every claim would be so since everything is ultimately based on unprovable axioms.
Your second sentence is also incorrect. Moving to a new country would change nothing, a new language is just referring to the same things. It’s NOT limitless, there is no such thing as limitless. It’s a nice dream but not reality.
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Thanatos10]
#26646085 - 05/03/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Languagesdoes not refer to the SAME thing, there is no such thing as perfect translation. Its more like a high-approximation. If you learned a foreign language, you would realize this.
Take "Aloha" for example. It has several meanings such as "Love", "Hello", "Goodbye", "Positivity". Its a multi-layerd word of Hawaiian. Aloha is unique onto itself and is an example of the limitless nature of Language and new meanings can be created all the time. Look at how new technology creates new words. That's just an example of the limitless potential of both Technology and Language.
You gotta think huge timescales. Like thousands of years or more.
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Hey thanatos10 why is 1234go ignoring you? What happened to all the love?
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LogicaL Chaos said: Languagesdoes not refer to the SAME thing, there is no such thing as perfect translation. Its more like a high-approximation. If you learned a foreign language, you would realize this.
Take "Aloha" for example. It has several meanings such as "Love", "Hello", "Goodbye", "Positivity". Its a multi-layerd word of Hawaiian. Aloha is unique onto itself and is an example of the limitless nature of Language and new meanings can be created all the time. Look at how new technology creates new words. That's just an example of the limitless potential of both Technology and Language.
You gotta think huge timescales. Like thousands of years or more.
Incorrect again.
It’s still a greeting and new technology is based on existing ideas. You’re only proving my point about how limited creativity is. Someone who doesn’t know the things we know is very limited in regards to what they can do.
As I said before there is no such thing as limitless
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One could argue true progress is not reached until one hits said limit(which humanity has done time and again)
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: Thanatos10]
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Astromers say the Universe itself could be limitless. Have you seen photos of the Hubble Deep Field?
https://www.spacetelescope.org/science/deep_fields/
Those are all galaxies bro....very far away. Scientists don't even know if there is an ending to it.
If the Universe is Limitless, why wouldn't Creativity be as well?
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LogicaL Chaos said: Astromers say the Universe itself could be limitless. Have you seen photos of the Hubble Deep Field?
https://www.spacetelescope.org/science/deep_fields/
Those are all galaxies bro....very far away. Scientists don't even know if there is an ending to it.
If the Universe is Limitless, why wouldn't Creativity be as well?
They don’t say it is, just that it could be.
Also it’s a false equivalence between the universe and creativity, I just showed how limited creativity truly is. It’s not limitless.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Including Solipism, which is part of it as well. If sensation-processing information cannot be trusted, then nothing can, thoughts included.
Finally. Can’t wait to see mental gymnastics that a certain someone will have to use to comprehend this and their view simultaneously.
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The relative and the absolute, or two truths, and three fundamental states or bodies, is a renowned doctrine in Buddhism. And then there is Maha Ati, that ties it all in together. Sounds to me like Dylan’s theory is a version of or iteration of that. It’s a a clever system for understanding things, and does it well enough, despite its shortcomings.
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In a universe where there is no life, is there only 2 planes of reality since there is no thought?
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Yeah but then you have the problem of the 'if a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, does it make a noise?' thing. It's safe to say that a universe with no life and no potential for life might as well not really 'exist' in the first place.
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Near Dylan said: Yeah but then you have the problem of the 'if a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, does it make a noise?' thing. It's safe to say that a universe with no life and no potential for life might as well not really 'exist' in the first place.
I don't agree, that seems very human-centric 
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Re: The 3 Planes of Reality (Near Dylan Theory) [Re: madmodder]
#26648122 - 05/04/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I heard a tree fall on my neighbors property last week. It was cool, yo.
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