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Jesus has returned!
#26644323 - 05/02/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jesus has returned and he is employed by the CDC. He is currently resurrecting Covid 19 deaths.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644337 - 05/02/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you mind providing me with a direct link to the specific area of the CDC website you used as a citation?
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: Asclepius]
#26644341 - 05/02/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asclepius said: Do you mind providing me with a direct link to the specific area of the CDC website you used as a citation?
I mean I guess if googling cdc covid deaths is too hard sure.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644346 - 05/02/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Isn't it wild that just the other day there was over 65k covid deaths and now there is 37,308. What a time to be alive.
CDC gonna get audited so had to tidy up the numbers I guess.
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Edited by budmanman (05/02/20 06:19 PM)
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman] 1
#26644368 - 05/02/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I get why you would presume the data are faulty, but it appears you overlooked some of the subtext that is provided on the same page you directly cited.

Also, you overlooked the section that clearly lists the number of deaths which resulted from a combination of Covid-19 and some other ailment:

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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: Asclepius]
#26644374 - 05/02/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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They shifted the deaths around, lag doesn't all the sudden make total deaths go down lol they were including people who died of influenza in their previous totals, literally intentionally inflating the deaths.
Look at this you have to stay at home to protect the weak and elderly yet they're forcing nursing homes to take covid 19 patients lmao literally intentionally infecting the most vulnerable while you can't go ousside
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/us/nursing-homes-coronavirus.html
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644376 - 05/02/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bud, I edited my post. Please look at the other screenshot I posted.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: Asclepius]
#26644379 - 05/02/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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16,564 + 37,308 doesn't equal over 66,000 the numbers we are being told are literally pulled out of someones ass.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644389 - 05/02/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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With all due respect, you are still overlooking some of the data and the codes provided on the source page you cited. I believe you are misunderstanding the data because of this oversight. Take another look at the codes.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644394 - 05/02/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Same thing happened at my wifes nursing home, they had a 100% infection rate because they had to keep taking back in residents who had the virus. The moment they could breath on their own they were sent right back to "make space" yet then that person would lead to it spreading to another resident or employee to more residents, thus the space they made was only for the next run of people that person infected, what a shit show of a joke.
And now nursing homes are being forced to intake new residents who have the virus, your grandparents in nursing homes are fucked.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644401 - 05/02/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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j12 -j18 lol here is just J12
ICD-10-CM J12.9 is grouped within Diagnostic Related Group(s) (MS-DRG v37.0): 193 Simple pneumonia and pleurisy with mcc 194 Simple pneumonia and pleurisy with cc 195 Simple pneumonia and pleurisy without cc/mcc 974 Hiv with major related condition with mcc 975 Hiv with major related condition with cc 976 Hiv with major related condition without cc/mcc
You die of HIV bam automatic covid death if u had covid.
Anything to inflate the numbers to scare you.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman] 1
#26644407 - 05/02/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you believe Covid-19 does not contribute to the deaths of people with underlying ailments, how do you successfully differentiate which particular ailment killed them? Even if you think it is not Covid-19 which is responsible, how can you then claim it was the other medical condition(s) which killed that person? What scientific method are you using?
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: Asclepius]
#26644410 - 05/02/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What scientific method are they using? Its a covid death no matter what, they literally said that on live television when a reporter asked.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644413 - 05/02/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I also want you to note, 64,382 deaths from common pneumonia, non covid pnumonia has killed more people than covid. FFS lmao
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#26644414 - 05/02/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am asking why it is you feel their method is wrong but yours is right? How is it your interpretation of the data is more scientifically sound? How is it you are able to differentiate between people who, when they are infected with Covid-19, die from Covid-19 or some other underlying ailment? How is it you are sure Covid-19 does not exacerbate already existing medical conditions up to and including death? I am asking for your scientific methods. How are they different from those of researchers at the CDC? Can you explain them to me?
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: Asclepius]
#26644417 - 05/02/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok look, there was 66k covid and covid related deaths 2 days ago, and now there isn't thats the point, I know that you got the governments dick way deep down your throat right now so it might have been hard to notice that that was the whole point of this post.
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#26644431 - 05/02/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What? That government is corrupt? Yeah, I agree with you there and think we can find common ground. But I thought we were also speaking about a specific issue as it relates to Covid-19 and the validity of the numbers the U.S. Government is releasing regarding Covid-19 deaths. Would you like for me to break the data down for you? 'Cause I can totally do that if you would like.
Brother, I didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot. It's just that this is science we are dealing with and, if we are going to make claims, we should be able to support those claims with scientific evidence.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman] 1
#26644450 - 05/02/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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As I posted in the other thread:
No numbers went down
From what it looks like, the CDC receives their totals from the states, those numbers are here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
Then once the states send the medical records/autopsy/death certificate to the NCHS, and the NCHS combs through it and verifies it as a legitimate COVID death, a process that takes weeks, the CDC then adds the number to the data you posted.
It's not a conspiracy, it's you not understanding the data.
You could always just look at overall mortality rates increases in places hit hard by COVID, but you'd only do that if you actually cared about the facts, instead of pushing some truther agenda.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: feevers]
#26644472 - 05/02/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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a virus with a over 3% death rate kills none of out 270 in vietnam? lmao
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#26644483 - 05/02/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I liked the part where you thoroughly rebuked the points I made.
As far as your point about Vietnam: https://www.statisticssolutions.com/what-is-a-representative-sample/
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: feevers]
#26644491 - 05/02/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok on the subject of statistics, 50,000 people were randomly tested in Orange county, and 8% of them tested positive for corona virus, is that a good enough sample size? So if 8% of orange county has the virus and 50 people have died, then its less deadly than the flu.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644497 - 05/02/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Side note, I have had the virus and now know because of the way I caught it, lots of other people who caught it and this shits fucking mild as fuck if you are under 50 years old.
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#26644532 - 05/02/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Ok on the subject of statistics, 50,000 people were randomly tested in Orange county, and 8% of them tested positive for corona virus, is that a good enough sample size? So if 8% of orange county has the virus and 50 people have died, then its less deadly than the flu.
8% of 50,000 is 4,000 50 deaths out of that 4000 is 1.25% The flu death rate is <.1%
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: feevers]
#26644533 - 05/02/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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They tested 50,000 residents of orange county RANDOMLY, there are millions of people in orange county, only 50 have died, statistics in college will teach u to apply that 8% to the total population, making it less deadly than the flu,.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644536 - 05/02/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Imagine if you will, a virus so deadly most people who catch it don't even realize they have it.
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#26644546 - 05/02/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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budmanman said: What scientific method are they using? Its a covid death no matter what, they literally said that on live television when a reporter asked.
They can come to a conclusion from the medical data. Someone who has been stable for a period of time that after testing positive for covid and becomes critically ill and subsequently dies - that merits a death bv covid and complications / confounding factors I would assume.
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644576 - 05/02/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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budmanman said: They tested 50,000 residents of orange county RANDOMLY, there are millions of people in orange county, only 50 have died, statistics in college will teach u to apply that 8% to the total population, making it less deadly than the flu,.
Do you have a link for this 50k random testing sample?
A quick google search showed only 2600 reported cases and 36k tests. Those tests are appointment only and for those who are presumed to be sick or had contact with someone with COVID. That is not close to a random sample.
So out of 2600 positives there are 52 dead and over 200 in the hospital currently (even more in total).
Those numbers are very bad
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644593 - 05/02/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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This guy at the grocery store tried to get me to come to his church. Said Jesus and His wife have returned already to fulfill the prophecy. He takes his orders from God in the flesh.
I love ideas, and dreams, and funny things to think about, but I was entertained by him for much to long.
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Fuck church
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Re: Jesus has returned! [Re: budmanman]
#26644717 - 05/02/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Totally has nothing to do with the thread but I honestly can't think of a more terrifying sentence than "Jesus has returned." I was tripping balls a few weeks ago and felt this thud right in my fuckin soul meats and said out loud "GOD IS AWAKE." I've never felt such sheer terror. Lol. Apocalypse nigh
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larry.fisherman said: Totally has nothing to do with the thread but I honestly can't think of a more terrifying sentence than "Jesus has returned." I was tripping balls a few weeks ago and felt this thud right in my fuckin soul meats and said out loud "GOD IS AWAKE." I've never felt such sheer terror. Lol. Apocalypse nigh

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#26648091 - 05/04/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Fuck church
Now that's a church I might attend!
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